Is rated 5 stars and appears to have lots of FAL action!

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Good movie tho, watched it last night

Did you just DUPE yourself DUPEing some one ...lol

 

Was a good novie, someone took the time to make sure the gear was right....looks like they even found the correct jet to attack them.


The F4 Phantom might not of been accurate for the time frame and area of operation  unless they were hinting that America shot that plane down.

Not a single one of your dupes is in a forum i could give a shit about, nor do they have anything to do with FAL's.

If you're going to call dupe on this thread, you should also call it on nearly every thread there is, it's all been talked about before.

I noticed the Captain FAL had a a lot FTE's, but it managed to correct itself by the time the shooting started again. Great FAL pron flick.

Good movie.

The guns/gear were meh accurate. Surprisingly the radio gear looked vaguely accurate.

The Irish had British P37 (and probably P44) web gear, and the FALs were of the Belgian M2 pattern with the folding grenades sight, so the movie at least got those right. Brens were standard issue (replaced by FN MAGs later and used for training up until 1997). The weapons in the hands of the Katangese and mercenaries were accurate.

The irish also had enfields. The no4t reticle was wrong, bren sniping was wrong etc. The natives should had spears, muskets, and maybe some single shot repeaters. Nor did they have heavy wrapons.

But i agree they definately "tried" for period correct weapons and gear.

The tribesmen were poorly armed like that.  The ad hoc white militia from Jadotville were somewhat better armed, but largely had sporting firearms and few military ones. The Gendarmes were better armed.  A mix of FALs (M1s and M2s), Lee-Enfields (Nos. 1 and 4), Belgian Mausers (M1889/36, M1935, M1950), the SAFN-49, and various machine pistols (Sten, Sterling, Uzi, Vigneron, MAT-49, and maybe Thompsons), as well as boht rifle and hand grenades.  Pistols were the Browning Hi-Power and perhaps a few French model 1950s and the occasional personal sidearm.  For automatic rifles and machine guns they had the Belgian BARs (Model 1930, Model D, Model DA1), Bren, MAG-58, M1919, and M-2 BMG (no DshK, which they used in the movie).  They did not have Carl Gustav recoilless rifles (the Irish did, though, and used them to great effect); they had other recoilless rifles in inventory, but didn't use them in this battle.  They did have a few mortars and a 75mm howitzer and of course the support of two armed Fouga Magisters (other aircraft were available, but not employed).

The movie was good, but my feeling on watching it was that the number of casualties suffered by the attackers was probably much smaller in reality. Anyone have any hard facts on this?

Wiki states 300 dead, 1000 wounded amongst the mercs.

Yeah, I looked that up, that seems to be numbers from the Irish so probably very high.

The UN tended during the war to inflate enemy casualties and under-report its own (my impression is that India was one of the biggest culprits in both respects; it seems to have under-reported its casualties during the war against Portugal that took place that same year).

The Katangese probably had something approaching those numbers for the whole campaign centred around Morthor, but not just for that action.  

Also, there were nowhere near enough "mercs" for those sorts of casualty figures just among the "mercs".  At the high point, the combination of white Congolese, seconded French and Belgian troops, and actual foreign recruits never got too far above 1,000.  During Morthor, because of the UN arrests of whites and foreigners plus the release of white and foreign recruits from service if they wanted to leaved caused the numbers to drop precipitously.  Many who fled to escape arrest or who were caught and deported returned, but during the fighting that month their numbers had dropped to something like a couple hundred IIRC.

Yeah, the general tendency is to over state the casualties you inflict, and this would be worse for green troops like the Irish, and likely worse yet since there would be no easy way to verify (if there was any way at all), and on top of that the political situation would likely lead them to inflate the damage they inflicted (since they were captured, etc).