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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:55:46 AM

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I have a steyr manufactured fn imported by gun south in early 1980's I am going to sell.

Also have alot of magazines, original bipod, and Leatherwood weaver rail top cover I have used with a compact 6 X Zeiss for long range shooting..

This rifle is very accurate and will keep on a little IPSC shilouette out to 600 yards with LC, WRA, or IVI nato ammo.

Never rapid fired. Mostly slow delibierate medium to long range work. Trigger job and camo paint but otherwise stock.

About what should I charge for this????

Advice appreciated.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 5:35:25 AM

Originally Posted By 380guy:
I have a steyr manufactured fn imported by gun south in early 1980's I am going to sell.

Also have alot of magazines, original bipod, and Leatherwood weaver rail top cover I have used with a compact 6 X Zeiss for long range shooting..

This rifle is very accurate and will keep on a little IPSC shilouette out to 600 yards with LC, WRA, or IVI nato ammo.

Never rapid fired. Mostly slow delibierate medium to long range work. Trigger job and camo paint but otherwise stock.

About what should I charge for this????

Advice appreciated.

bout a hunnert dollars
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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:08:55 PM
It's mostly collectors that are your market, and they don't care much about performance for the most part. Those things go for $2300 (I am assuming this is a 50.00) or so in top shape, and the paint job is going take it a bunch of notches down. My prediction is that you'll be doing well if you can get $1500 or more for it.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 3:09:23 PM
"Trigger job", "camo paint", and the non-standard optics will have a pretty significant impact on resale value. WDS is right that your rifle is more of a collector's piece, or at least it used to be...
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Posted: 8/8/2012 3:44:43 PM
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Yep, the paint job killed it. For most people it's now the same as any other parts gun. You will be doing good at $1000.00
edit to add that it is "preban" so you may do a little better if you want to ship to a ban state.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 7:00:45 PM
Like any other rifle, 'custom' parts, finishes, or gunsmithing, will have a negative effect on a gun's value. I've seen a lot of ads listing guns that have had these kinds of modifications bumped over a period of weeks or months, with the seller not understanding that XX-dollars spent on "upgrades" are almost never recovered in the sale. I saw one recently on another board that was a good example of this. A Century Arms Franken-FAL with a bunch of parts from Crapco, no pics in the ad, asking easily double what the rifle is worth.

Camouflage finishes are also a very subjective thing. For example, I may look at a properly-built Rhodesian FAL with the "Baby-Poop" camo that many of Rhodesia's troopies applied to their rifles, as a positive. The same rifle, only with a Cera-Kote/Gun-Kote/Krylon paint job, especially in a digital-type pattern, is seen by me as a huge negative, because it's more work I'm going to have to do to remove it from the rifle soon after receiving it.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 5:39:31 PM
Post this on the FAL files...I dont see the value as being that low. Id say closer to 2K.... This is not 1995
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:12:20 PM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 7:13:50 PM by 380guy]
Thanks everyone.

I had no idea I had a rifle that was ever collectible. Just thought it was an unusually accurate, older FAL.

Sounds like I should put original top cover back on and strip paint, which is no big deal. Some of you might be old enough to remember camo paint that came in rattle cans with three or four colors and some leaf pattern stencils. It has a texture kind of like a smooth orange peel dry wall. Just melts away with any solvent.

If I disclose former paint jpb and trigger honing would it sell for more like this, or just offer as is??

I just read thread on FAL accuracy and am surprised so many newer FAL's are doing so poorly. I was always able to compete against m1a's. I got the trigger to be about like he original T48's I have shot.

Thanks for your feed back.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:35:36 PM
Originally Posted By 380guy:
Thanks everyone.

I had no idea I had a rifle that was ever collectible. Just thought it was an unusually accurate, older FAL.

Sounds like I should put original top cover back on and strip paint, which is no big deal. Some of you might be old enough to remember camo paint that came in rattle cans with three or four colors and some leaf pattern stencils. It has a texture kind of like a smooth orange peel dry wall. Just melts away with any solvent.

If I disclose former paint jpb and trigger honing would it sell for more like this, or just offer as is??

I just read thread on FAL accuracy and am surprised so many newer FAL's are doing so poorly. I was always able to compete against m1a's. I got the trigger to be about like he original T48's I have shot.

Thanks for your feed back.


Bowflage ? or something like that? It may not be too bad. If you can get ALL the old paint off and not hurt the finish you will be in better shape. And put the factory top cover back on for sure.
This is not a "sear cut" gun is it? Got any pic's?

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Posted: 8/10/2012 4:49:26 PM
It is not a sear cut rifle.

I will take a picture for you all to laugh at!
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Posted: 8/17/2012 2:10:57 AM
Please, more about the T48's you've gotten to shoot.
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Posted: 8/17/2012 6:55:14 PM
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The first T48 I shot was at Oregon national guard museum when Terry Aiken was director. Got to shoot T48, HK G3 and some sub guns including Karl Gustaf and Sterling.

The T48 trigger was much better than civilian FAL's I have shot. A smooth single stage trigger after a short amount of take up, then a progressive crisp pull. I had never fired a full auto rifle before but was able to put 14 out of 20 rounds in a 20 round burst into an Echo target at 50 yards off hand, standing at parade rest. (No left foot forward technique at all). Two FBI guys were using range and asked me where I learned to shoot. Anyone could have done as well.

the T48 appeared to be about a half pound or more lighter than civilian rifles also. Or maybe I was just younger then!

The G3 has a slightly lower cyclic rate (about 600 spm vs 650) but with the heavy bolt carrier had more preceived recoil than the FN. Still better FA hits than less powerful AK.

Shot T48 in three other places in later years. they all had nice triggers. Closer to an M1a than a fal parts gun.
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Posted: 8/22/2012 2:19:26 PM
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Picture of Gunsouth Belgian FN w bowflage paint and leatherwood upper.



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Posted: 8/22/2012 3:37:19 PM
bowflage.........Burn the heretic
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Posted: 8/22/2012 5:23:11 PM
Please, keep in mind that sales belong to EE



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Posted: 8/22/2012 9:58:46 PM
Originally Posted By Blitzkreig:
bowflage.........Burn the heretic


Oh.. I don't know....


It's a pretty well-done paint job. If you like a painted FAL, maybe you could strip the bowflage off and give it some Rhodesian "baby-poop" camo.
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Posted: 8/23/2012 9:54:47 PM
$1000 ? WTF? Those cheesedicks that try to lower the value of your Herstal Fal are the same guys ownly own a sks , 10-22 and a ar kit gun. Painting the rifle does decrease value but $ 1000 ? Please........they dont make this model anymore and never will !
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Posted: 10/22/2012 11:09:45 AM
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Even with the bowflage paint, you should see at least $2000 for your rifle with accesories and magazines assuming the weapon itself has been taken care of and is in good condition.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 10:18:46 PM
I'd guess $2200 would be about right to somebody that can refinish themselves. $2000 it would move faster.