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ClinchMtnman
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Posted: 6/14/2012 10:13:05 AM

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I'm in the market for a shtf rifle in 7.62x39 and have pretty well decided to go for one of the FAL rifles currently bieng produced by DS Arms. The only thing I've ever had in this caliber was bolt action, and I'm a lot more familiar with the AR platform. I like the 16" barrel but beyond that I'm having trouble deciding. I don't mind spending the money for one of these beauties but hope to get it right the first time. So what's your personal favorite and why?
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Posted: 6/14/2012 10:29:44 AM
Do you mean 7.62x51? 7.62x39 is combloc ak round as far as i know there aren't any fals chambered in it.
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Posted: 6/14/2012 11:58:03 AM
Yes sorry, please forgive the newbie. I was looking at the Arsenal SGL21 AK earlier and am a little drunk with the "getting a new gun fever" right now I think.
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Posted: 6/14/2012 12:05:49 PM
Are all the DS Arms FAL's chambered in .308 or do they come in the higher pressure 7.62x51? Will they shoot both? Should I care whether not they'll shoot both?
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Posted: 6/14/2012 12:54:31 PM
FALs will shoot both. DS Arms may void your warranty if you shoot Russian steel-cased ammo through their rifles, so stick with brass. The difference between .308 and 7.62x51 is not enough to be a concern with a FAL, except that the FAL might not shoot the heavy 175-180 grain bullets well. Some FAL shooters have reported that soft-point rounds will occasionally get hung up when feeding from the magazine, while others have no problem.

I would personally look for a rifle built with genuine military parts, built on a quality receiver, before I'd give DS Arms any of my money. They are experiencing QC issues that are being(somewhat slowly for many people's taste..)addressed.


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Posted: 6/14/2012 1:52:19 PM
as stated above.

My favorite FAL is the G1, and I know DSA use to make one, unsure if they still do though.
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:57:23 PM
Thanks. Do you recomend any companies that use military spec parts? Im also entertaining putting one together on my own. I'm still in the fact finding stage of this mission.
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Posted: 6/14/2012 4:35:15 PM
find a parts kit and put your own together. Learning experience and not that hard to do. I's suggest a Coonan receiver as the last 2 receivers I've seen from DSA were out of spec.
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Posted: 6/14/2012 4:36:46 PM
Rolling your own is a lot of fun, but if you are just building one, its not worth it to buy the tools. If there is someone in your area with the build tools, go for it! Otherwise, its better to get an experienced FAL smith to build it for you.

I have always been a DSA fan, and used their receivers quite a bit, but I have heard reports (not internet rumors) from people i trust that their current builds are not on par with their older stuff. They are out of "kits" and building rifles now with their own manufactured parts.
I would look at purchasing an already built rifle, or a kit and having it built. Sarco has brand new NOS Argentine kits for $550 or so, and a new Coonan Argie receiver will net you a brand new military grade FAL for less than the cheapest DSA.

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Posted: 6/14/2012 4:38:24 PM
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sorry, duplicate post...
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Posted: 6/14/2012 5:47:30 PM
Originally Posted By Davesrb:
Rolling your own is a lot of fun, but if you are just building one, its not worth it to buy the tools. If there is someone in your area with the build tools, go for it! Otherwise, its better to get an experienced FAL smith to build it for you.

I have always been a DSA fan, and used their receivers quite a bit, but I have heard reports (not internet rumors) from people i trust that their current builds are not on par with their older stuff. They are out of "kits" and building rifles now with their own manufactured parts.
I would look at purchasing an already built rifle, or a kit and having it built. Sarco has brand new NOS Argentine kits for $550 or so, and a new Coonan Argie receiver will net you a brand new military grade FAL for less than the cheapest DSA.

Davesrb




What he said.........
ClinchMtnman
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Posted: 6/14/2012 5:58:07 PM
Sounds like good sound advice. I have quickly come to realize that a clone is all ill be able to afford, and I'm not opposed to putting one together as has been suggested. Ill just need to look into FAL smiths that might do the job for me (for lack of tools). I might also entertain something from DSA, if I can find something made a couple years ago, "lightly"used
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Posted: 6/15/2012 11:10:10 AM
Search for a ban-era DSA STG85 that was made with all Steyr parts aside from the receiver. Less money, better gun.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 6:28:39 PM

Originally Posted By ClinchMtnman:
Sounds like good sound advice. I have quickly come to realize that a clone is all ill be able to afford, and I'm not opposed to putting one together as has been suggested. Ill just need to look into FAL smiths that might do the job for me (for lack of tools). I might also entertain something from DSA, if I can find something made a couple years ago, "lightly"used

I recommend going to FALFILES.COM and registering a new account. There are excellent people there that know the F A L better than ol Dieudonne himself. And, as a bonus, there is a good probability that there is a FALFILES member in your area with the tools and expertise that would be glad to assist you in building an F A L.
Also, the marketplace at FALFILES is an excellent place to shop for an F A L. If you need guidance, just ask. The folks over there will give you good counsel.


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Posted: 6/17/2012 8:51:00 AM
My favorites would be a current DSA Para Carbine or if you can find one a GreyWolf from mid-2000's era.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 7:14:26 PM
I like the Congo version offered by DS Arms!
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Posted: 6/22/2012 7:19:03 PM
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Posted: 6/22/2012 10:36:56 PM









Since we're showing off our FALs...

My 1967-dated Israeli light-barrel FAL, built on an Entreprise Arms 'Israel Match' receiver. I've had it 9 years now but it rarely gets shot much anymore due to ammo costs.