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Excellent post, excellent rifle, a fitting tribute to an Excellent warrior. Pax Armis Acquiritur |
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Thanks everyone!
This project took approximately 8 months to complete and still has a few pieces on the way. |
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Great Tribute to an American Hero. Thanks for your dedication to this project and for sharing it with us.
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This whole thing is just wow!!!!!!
Thanks for sharing this with us Outstanding job, well done! |
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I knew this was going to be special the moment I saw the miniature pics of the parts you bought, and, boy, you did not disappoint. Outstanding work.
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You did a good job.
I did a similar rifle. It's all gi except for the receiver. Arms 18 split rail, 1907 sling, etc. I did go with an aimpoint pro instead of the older model. I'm really glad I did. I added a sadlak spring guide to try out and it shrank my groups down to almost moa. I attempted a mog paintjob, but yours is better. Other than a selector switch and the paintjob, mine looks almost identical to the movie version. It's my favorite rifle and boy does it sure draw crowds at the range. I will never sell it. Never. |
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Thanks again for the compliments everyone. Selector kit came in the mail yesterday. Hoping to install it this afternoon and sight in tomorrow. Then Wednesday or Thursday will be a real range day. Quoted:
You did a good job. I did a similar rifle. It's all gi except for the receiver. Arms 18 split rail, 1907 sling, etc. I did go with an aimpoint pro instead of the older model. I'm really glad I did. I added a sadlak spring guide to try out and it shrank my groups down to almost moa. I attempted a mog paintjob, but yours is better. Other than a selector switch and the paintjob, mine looks almost identical to the movie version. It's my favorite rifle and boy does it sure draw crowds at the range. I will never sell it. Never. View Quote Please share pictures! I had planned on putting together a larger thread to share others' builds as well, but this project took so long that myself and others were tired and ready to see the final product. I saved a few other BHD clones with the permission of the owners to share, but just haven't got around to it yet. I believe an M14 with an Aimpoint is the best set up for a battle-rifle level M14 (I.e save the scope for the heavier barreled DMR variants ) |
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I came in thinking this would be some lame fanboy post. I was very wrong. Well done sir.
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Well done and excellent tribute to a brave warrior. I followed your thread over on the other site, perseverance, you've got it for sure..
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For some reason I can't see the pics..... UGH!!! I want to see this. Great write up though.
You read the book and I didn't so, I don't know what the truth is. But other sources say that he probably had a 3x9 on the rifle. I guess I need to read the book too. I've watched the movie more times than I care to admit. |
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For some reason I can't see the pics..... UGH!!! I want to see this. Great write up though. You read the book and I didn't so, I don't know what the truth is. But other sources say that he probably had a 3x9 on the rifle. I guess I need to read the book too. I've watched the movie more times than I care to admit. View Quote I apologize for that. When I get time I'll try and delete some old photos although I'm not sure it'd help. Thank you H20 Man for helping out! JJREA, here is my research article on the optic: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/682892_Black_Hawk_Down_Aimpoint_Write_Up.html |
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Thank you for the link!!! Very informative!!!!! It makes sense the whole aerial sniper thing and using a red dot. Somebody posted a pic of a Mk12 with one in a heli once. In one of the threads..... So it's something it seems like they continue to do. Or did.
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I always wondered if he had a NM rifle or not too. With a worked over trigger and heavier barrel. Just something to ponder...... I think the M21's were basically that. But then maybe they would've called it an M21 if that was the case.........
OP, I can only see the one pic of your rifle that waterman posted later. And that is a a super duper nice build. You done very well. I bet it's an experience to shoot. |
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I always wondered if he had a NM rifle or not too. With a worked over trigger and heavier barrel. Just something to ponder...... I think the M21's were basically that. But then maybe they would've called it an M21 if that was the case......... OP, I can only see the one pic of your rifle that waterman posted later. And that is a a super duper nice build. You done very well. I bet it's an experience to shoot. View Quote I've wondered the same. I went off this line from Delta operators in the book Black Hawk Down: They used to kid Randy Shughart because he shunned the modern rifle and ammunition and carried a Vietnam era M-14, which shot a 7.62 mm round without the penetrating qualities of the new green tip. It occurred to Howe as he saw those Sammies keep on running that Randy was the smartest soldier in the unit. His rifle may have been heavier and comparatively awkward and delivered a mean recoil, but it damn sure knocked a man down with one bullet, and in combat, one shot was often all you got. You shoot a guy, you want to see him go down; you don’t want to be guessing for the next five hours whether you hit him, or whether he’s still waiting for you in the weeds. |
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I've wondered the same. I went off this line from Delta operators in the book Black Hawk Down: They used to kid Randy Shughart because he shunned the modern rifle and ammunition and carried a Vietnam era M-14, which shot a 7.62 mm round without the penetrating qualities of the new green tip. It occurred to Howe as he saw those Sammies keep on running that Randy was the smartest soldier in the unit. His rifle may have been heavier and comparatively awkward and delivered a mean recoil, but it damn sure knocked a man down with one bullet, and in combat, one shot was often all you got. You shoot a guy, you want to see him go down; you don’t want to be guessing for the next five hours whether you hit him, or whether he’s still waiting for you in the weeds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I always wondered if he had a NM rifle or not too. With a worked over trigger and heavier barrel. Just something to ponder...... I think the M21's were basically that. But then maybe they would've called it an M21 if that was the case......... OP, I can only see the one pic of your rifle that waterman posted later. And that is a a super duper nice build. You done very well. I bet it's an experience to shoot. I've wondered the same. I went off this line from Delta operators in the book Black Hawk Down: They used to kid Randy Shughart because he shunned the modern rifle and ammunition and carried a Vietnam era M-14, which shot a 7.62 mm round without the penetrating qualities of the new green tip. It occurred to Howe as he saw those Sammies keep on running that Randy was the smartest soldier in the unit. His rifle may have been heavier and comparatively awkward and delivered a mean recoil, but it damn sure knocked a man down with one bullet, and in combat, one shot was often all you got. You shoot a guy, you want to see him go down; you don’t want to be guessing for the next five hours whether you hit him, or whether he’s still waiting for you in the weeds. It's hard to know what exactly it was. Because it could've been a NM and still be called an M14. If it was all outfitted with the 3 x 9 ART scope and mount and was an NM rifle, it would technically be an M21, so it probably wasn't that. Either way we'll just say you nailed it, because it's freakin nice and is as good as it's gonna get without actually being there. Now, as far as 7.62 being more lethal..... that's an argument that will get you banned around here. So many smileys because of how controversial that can be. The counter argument is you can carry more 5.56. Yeah, but if you don't need to shoot them as much with a 7.62, doesn't it kind of make up for the extra weight? I'm no expert but I've hunted deer a fair amount in my time. But I've never shot one with a 5.56 to know one way or the other. |
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The pics finally all showed up for me. Great great great thread and build. Very nice.
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That is an outstanding rifle, OP. Extremely nice and a very fitting tribute.
ETA: Who makes the cheek riser you had on the rifle in its scout configuration? |
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Your post and the rifle is a great tribute to a great man. Nicely done.
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Thanks yall!
First range trip was a disappointment. Something I did caused the op rod to derail and broke my bolt roller. Only got 15 rounds sent down range. The M14 armorer who built it will be inspecting it to find out what caused the derailment. Admittedly, I think I may have caused it with my amateur installation of the selector kit. |
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Ugh. Well hopefully it will get sorted out and we can get a good range report out of you.
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Very cool build! I do doubt they used NM rifles, rather, they were likely standard M14s in fiberglass stocks like in the movie. In basic training, a few guys and I painted a huge mural of Shughart and Gordon with their rifles on the barracks wall for our DS. Wish I had a pic, it turned out really good.
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I just read this thread and I must say, this is one of the coolest or the coolest thread I've read on the forum. It's great to see a tribute to a true American hero.
Excellent post. |
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Wondering if you have any updates?
Thanks to you I have decided to put an Aimpoint 5000 or the updated 9000 on my M1A, very nice setup. |
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Wondering if you have any updates? Thanks to you I have decided to put an Aimpoint 5000 or the updated 9000 on my M1A, very nice setup. View Quote Unfortunately not. The rifle should be going through test firing any time now. Hopefully he identifies and corrects the issue. I haven't updated the info here, but I would like to add that I recently talked to Larry Vickers. He confirmed that once the 5000 was received by Delta it became the standard optic. Here's the interesting part: he said 3000s broke easily and were not favored at all over the older 2000 model. So basically, the 3000 has no real place on Delta inspired rifles from Gothic Serpent. They can be seen in use by the Rangers, though. |
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Thanks for the update hopefully you will have the rifle back soon.
I've had op rod derail problems before but they have all been on my M1's and all traced to worn op rods and not a receiver problem. Hopefully yours will be a simple fix. With only 15 rounds down range were you able to get the Aimpoint sighted in? |
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Thanks for the update hopefully you will have the rifle back soon. I've had op rod derail problems before but they have all been on my M1's and all traced to worn op rods and not a receiver problem. Hopefully yours will be a simple fix. With only 15 rounds down range were you able to get the Aimpoint sighted in? View Quote I had actually made my final adjustments just before the op rod started to derail. My first shots were only a few inches right during the 25m battle zero, so there wasn't too much adjustment needed. I removed the Aimpoint prior to shipping the rifle, so I'll have to zero it again once I get it back. |
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