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Posted: 12/16/2014 7:30:58 PM EDT
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What do you mean by "pick corrosion"? Did you carefully examine the battle pack for punctures or tears? I would think the ammo in a sealed plastic ammo pack should last damn near forever. If you suspect that the rest of you ammo might be corroding in the battle packs, I suggest opening them and checking it out. You can always repack the ammo in cans with dessicant packs. Some people use vacuum sealers for long term storage.
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:03:10 PM EDT
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What do you mean by "pick corrosion"? Did you carefully examine the battle pack for punctures or tears? I would think the ammo in a sealed plastic ammo pack should last damn near forever. If you suspect that the rest of you ammo might be corroding in the battle packs, I suggest opening them and checking it out. You can always repack the ammo in cans with dessicant packs. Some people use vacuum sealers for long term storage. My mistake. It should have been "pink" corrosion. |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 10:57:46 PM EDT
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I'm not familiar with pink corrosion either. Most corrosion I've seen on old ammo is green. I don't know what to tell you about your ammo.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:20:33 AM EDT
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German Dag and Men ammunition suffers from a reaction from acidic cardboard which forms both green and pink corrosion.
The green tarnish isn't bad and can be tumbled off. The pink corrosion is bad and can lead to pinholes through the brass casing. I have a bunch of pink corrosive cartridges and only shoot them in a bolt gun. OP - If all your Dag is of the same year you should be gtg, however considering Dag/Men is next to impossible to find now I think it's a good idea to take the rounds out of the cardboard and store them in an ammo can with desiccant. I went through all my DAG/Men a while back. '94 Men was a bad year and I saw a lot of pink corrosion. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:19:34 PM EDT
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German Dag and Men ammunition suffers from a reaction from acidic cardboard which forms both green and pink corrosion. The green tarnish isn't bad and can be tumbled off. The pink corrosion is bad and can lead to pinholes through the brass casing. I have a bunch of pink corrosive cartridges and only shoot them in a bolt gun. OP - If all your Dag is of the same year you should be gtg, however considering Dag/Men is next to impossible to find now I think it's a good idea to take the rounds out of the cardboard and store them in an ammo can with desiccant. I went through all my DAG/Men a while back. '94 Men was a bad year and I saw a lot of pink corrosion. CTRob65 is on the mark with what he wrote. There is no pink corrosion. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 1:53:06 PM EDT
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The corrosion you normally see on brass is green and it is called Verdigris. Verdigris is corrosion of the metal caused by exposure to moisture, grease, oil and other contaminants. PINK may be from a red dye on cardboard box used for storage.
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Posted: 12/19/2014 5:38:03 PM EDT
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The corrosion you normally see on brass is green and it is called Verdigris. Verdigris is corrosion of the metal caused by exposure to moisture, grease, oil and other contaminants. PINK may be from a red dye on cardboard box used for storage. No the pink is corrosion and is actually eating through the case. I have seen cases cut open that had it and its on the inside as well as the outside. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 8:42:21 PM EDT
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No the pink is corrosion and is actually eating through the case. I have seen cases cut open that had it and its on the inside as well as the outside. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The corrosion you normally see on brass is green and it is called Verdigris. Verdigris is corrosion of the metal caused by exposure to moisture, grease, oil and other contaminants. PINK may be from a red dye on cardboard box used for storage. No the pink is corrosion and is actually eating through the case. I have seen cases cut open that had it and its on the inside as well as the outside. What M1G wrote. I saw the pink corrosion on another site, but I didn't post it because I don't want to get in trouble with this site. And, yes, it showed that the pink had eaten through the casing. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 2:21:37 AM EDT
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I have a couple sealed battle packs of this. The one I opened had some lite corrosion. There was no pink corrosion and all of it went "bang." During inspection, I didn't see any rounds that worried me. My question is, do you think I ought to leave the rest of the ammo in the battle pack, or pull it out and separate it into clean (to be saved in an ammo can) and corroded (for the range) or just leave it in the pack? What have others done. Thanks for your input. UPDATE: I pulled it out of the battle pack and segregated 1/4 of it as untrustworthy due to excessive tarnish or pink on the outside. I've had happier thoughts. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 6:05:43 AM EDT
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SRRhodesia - You could probably decrease your losses by polishing the heavily tarnished rounds provided there is no pink corrosion on them.
I used a Scoth-Brite pad followed by 00 steel wool to "scrub" off the green tarnish. There will still be some black on the case, but they will fire fine in any semi auto. I put some "scrubbed" cartridges in an ammo can with desiccant hoping that the tarnish wouldn't reappear, but it did within a year or so. It seems like if there's any black tarnish on the case whatsoever the green corrosion will soon follow. I think there's a way to get rid of the black, but I can't remember how. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 6:07:48 AM EDT
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i've shot the ugliest of the corroded DAG without probs
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:01:02 AM EDT
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A guy I know fired one of the pink corroded rounds and the hot gasses coming out of the round scarred the chamber badley . He had the barrel replaced becuase of this
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Posted: 12/23/2014 8:37:20 AM EDT
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A guy I know fired one of the pink corroded rounds and the hot gasses coming out of the round scarred the chamber badley . He had the barrel replaced becuase of this That was posted here and is beyond stupid, yet people are dumb and believe anything. If gas seepage were that destructive, fluted chambers wouldn't last beyond a few rounds. If chambers were that easily erroded, the throats wouldn't last beyond a few rounds. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 9:23:23 AM EDT
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Anyone have any good pics of the pink corroded DAG or MEN ammo?
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Posted: 12/23/2014 9:37:45 AM EDT
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Anyone have any good pics of the pink corroded DAG or MEN ammo? I have four sealed battle packs of this and would also like to see some pics. Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 9:56:14 AM EDT
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I googled it and found this thread: http://m14forum.com/ammunition/108956-pictures-corrosion-inside-men94-cases.html#post792861
It's pretty distinctive and hard to miss. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 10:57:57 AM EDT
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Piss. I have 800 rounds of that stuff, sealed. Opening it is not what I want to do. Piss.
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Posted: 12/23/2014 11:55:47 AM EDT
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I opened up one of four battle packs I have a couple weeks ago. Found some minor corrosion on a few rounds, but haven't gone through them all yet. Guess I need to. I think three of the packs are DAG and one is MEN, don't remember the years though.
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:04:15 PM EDT
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That was posted here and is beyond stupid, yet people are dumb and believe anything. If gas seepage were that destructive, fluted chambers wouldn't last beyond a few rounds. If chambers were that easily erroded, the throats wouldn't last beyond a few rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A guy I know fired one of the pink corroded rounds and the hot gasses coming out of the round scarred the chamber badley . He had the barrel replaced becuase of this That was posted here and is beyond stupid, yet people are dumb and believe anything. If gas seepage were that destructive, fluted chambers wouldn't last beyond a few rounds. If chambers were that easily erroded, the throats wouldn't last beyond a few rounds. Really ??Before you call me stupid and dumb maybe you should do your homework. What does a fluted chamber or the throst have to do with anything??? With the Dag ammo the was a hole in the side of the case against the chamber, hot gasses cause a pit in the side of the chamber I personally know the guy,he is a long time builder and shooter of the M1A. It pitted the chamber right at the hole . The barrel was replaced by the seller of the ammo (Wideners) |
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