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Posted: 6/22/2015 12:13:14 PM EDT
For long range, 400+ yd apple shooting, my scoped, wood
stocked RRA A4 is still my choice, but I've noticed that the last few times out
to the range, I've felt more comfortable with my Ranch Rifle over my S&W AR
M&P15 Magpul Moe Middy. Both are iron sighted, 5.56 caliber carbine sized shooters and I shoot both at
pins out at 200 yds for practice and out at 300 yds for fun. (Now that's a
challenge with 67 yr old eyes!) The thing I'm finding I like more and more
about my new Ranch Rifle at is how much more compact and comfortable it is to
carry at 8lbs 2ozs loaded with 20rds than my lighter 7lb 8oz loaded with 30rds
S&W AR middy.




Yep, even at 10oz heavier, my Ranch Rifle seems more comfortable and
maneuverable at the shoulder than the lighter AR. Much like my M1 Garand and
M1A compared to my A4; their more compact size just feels better at the
shoulder to me. Call me old fashioned, but I'm realizing that I just like the feel of the wood
and steel, compact shape better. And because I'm not going into battle with any
of my rifles anytime soon, I'm just fine with my simple to use, comfortable to
hold, rich with history, 'old style' beauties.




 
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 12:24:56 PM EDT
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Have you looked @ the Ares SCR?  It may carry like your Mini-14.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 12:29:20 PM EDT
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I like the mini 14s.
ARs have some advantages over them, but that subject has been beat to death.

Anyways, if you need to disassemble an FBI crew that is the rifle of choice.
https://americanhandgunner.com/25-years-after-the-fbi-firefight-the-late-emerging/
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 3:25:51 PM EDT
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Yes, I've owned several Mini-14s, so I'm able to comment.

I now longer have them, and for good reason.


Link Posted: 6/23/2015 6:49:32 AM EDT
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Have you looked @ the Ares SCR?  It may carry like your Mini-14.
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This.  The SCR lower can use any AR upper.  Only the carrier (but not the bolt, cam pin, firing pin) has to be changed out for their proprietary one.  It's basically the front half of a standard AR bolt carrier with a rat tail that goes down into the stock like a semi shotgun:



In fact, the stocks (there are 3 choices) are externally identical to the Remington 1100 and with some internal modification, other 1100 stocks (e.g., wood ones) can be used:



Best of both worlds.
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 6:58:17 AM EDT
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How are you carrying your rifles?

Ar's go really well with a good 2-point sling. Like magpul, BFG, vtac or vcas

My ar is smaller than my m1 carbine, and if i need a smaller package, thats what 20 round mags are for

I used to own a mini


Long gone, and it will stay that way
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 11:55:32 AM EDT
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Yes, I've owned several Mini-14s, so I'm able to comment.



I now longer have them, and for good reason.




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/MolonLabe/Mini14target.png
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Yes, I've owned several Mini-14s, so I'm able to comment.



I now longer have them, and for good reason.




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/MolonLabe/Mini14target.png


Old style, whippy barrels produce that poor accuracy, however, the new heavier barreled ones do quite nicely.  My 583 Series Ranch Rifle equipped with a Accu-Strut and reduced gas bushing produces minute of bowling pins at 200yds with iron sights.  It's as accurate as my iron sighted M1A and my middy ARs (both S&W and RRA) in my hands so your once true 'good reason' is no longer valid for the new ones.



       
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How are you carrying your rifles?



Ar's go really well with a good 2-point sling. Like magpul, BFG, vtac or vcas



My ar is smaller than my m1 carbine, and if i need a smaller package, thats what 20 round mags are for



I used to own a mini



Long gone, and it will stay that way



Your AR might collapse shorter than a M1 Carbine, but it is significantly larger in volume which is what I was referring to.  I'm not guessing either as I have 2 AR carbines, 2 M1 Carbines, and 1 Ranch Rifle.
Hey, if you like your ARs better, good on ya.  All I'm saying is that I have applications where ARs work well and I've found applications where the smaller volume of the Mini works better for me.  YMMV



 
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 12:09:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/23/2015 12:14:13 PM EDT
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This.  The SCR lower can use any AR upper.  Only the carrier (but not the bolt, cam pin, firing pin) has to be changed out for their proprietary one.  It's basically the front half of a standard AR bolt carrier with a rat tail that goes down into the stock like a semi shotgun:



http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/P1060530-900x600.jpg



In fact, the stocks (there are 3 choices) are externally identical to the Remington 1100 and with some internal modification, other 1100 stocks (e.g., wood ones) can be used:



http://i57.tinypic.com/9i9reo.jpg



Best of both worlds.

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Have you looked @ the Ares SCR?  It may carry like your Mini-14.


This.  The SCR lower can use any AR upper.  Only the carrier (but not the bolt, cam pin, firing pin) has to be changed out for their proprietary one.  It's basically the front half of a standard AR bolt carrier with a rat tail that goes down into the stock like a semi shotgun:



http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/P1060530-900x600.jpg



In fact, the stocks (there are 3 choices) are externally identical to the Remington 1100 and with some internal modification, other 1100 stocks (e.g., wood ones) can be used:



http://i57.tinypic.com/9i9reo.jpg



Best of both worlds.



Interesting design.  I'd like to see if it is as accurate as an AR.  



 
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 8:09:34 PM EDT
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67 so maybe you just like the way a traditional rifle handles over a newer military style rifle?

I'm still quite young at 23 and bought an AR as soon as I turned 18 so that's what I like and prefer for the most part.
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 10:54:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/23/2015 11:40:08 PM EDT
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This.  The SCR lower can use any AR upper.  Only the carrier (but not the bolt, cam pin, firing pin) has to be changed out for their proprietary one.  It's basically the front half of a standard AR bolt carrier with a rat tail that goes down into the stock like a semi shotgun:

http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/P1060530-900x600.jpg

In fact, the stocks (there are 3 choices) are externally identical to the Remington 1100 and with some internal modification, other 1100 stocks (e.g., wood ones) can be used:

http://i57.tinypic.com/9i9reo.jpg

Best of both worlds.
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Have you looked @ the Ares SCR?  It may carry like your Mini-14.


This.  The SCR lower can use any AR upper.  Only the carrier (but not the bolt, cam pin, firing pin) has to be changed out for their proprietary one.  It's basically the front half of a standard AR bolt carrier with a rat tail that goes down into the stock like a semi shotgun:

http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/P1060530-900x600.jpg

In fact, the stocks (there are 3 choices) are externally identical to the Remington 1100 and with some internal modification, other 1100 stocks (e.g., wood ones) can be used:

http://i57.tinypic.com/9i9reo.jpg

Best of both worlds.


This looks sweet!!
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 12:57:54 AM EDT
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Quoted:  This.  The SCR lower can use any AR upper.  Only the carrier (but not the bolt, cam pin, firing pin) has to be changed out for their proprietary one.  It's basically the front half of a standard AR bolt carrier with a rat tail that goes down into the stock like a semi shotgun:

http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/P1060530-900x600.jpg

In fact, the stocks (there are 3 choices) are externally identical to the Remington 1100 and with some internal modification, other 1100 stocks (e.g., wood ones) can be used:

http://i57.tinypic.com/9i9reo.jpg

Best of both worlds.
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How's the trigger?  Have someone interested in SBRing one, but he's holding off 'til he can try one of the triggers.  That would look dead sexy w/ a flush fit 10 rnd mag, wooden handguards, & a bayonet.  
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 5:27:50 PM EDT
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If it uses any AR upper, i don't see why it wouldn't be. my thought would be iron sights. are there picatinny mountable sights that are low enough?
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The folks at Ares are testing out a low profile fsb design at this time.  Low profile sights designed for other firearms exist, and can be used.  I like the peep sights featured on the Scorpion EVO.
Link Posted: 10/15/2015 9:48:00 PM EDT
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My 581-series Ruger Ranch Rifle with an ATI stock, red dot, and forward handgrip. It is absolutely reliable and feeds/shoots anything! Keeps everything in the 8 ring of a B27 at 100 yards offhand. Not a target rifle; a shooting rifle!
Link Posted: 10/16/2015 2:53:30 PM EDT
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Yes, I've owned several Mini-14s, so I'm able to comment.



I now longer have them, and for good reason.




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/MolonLabe/Mini14target.png
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likely owned the older pencil barreled Minis many of which would pattern like shotguns, that's true.  However, the newer 58X series
Minis have a thicker barrel and are capable of 1 MOA and below accuracy.  My 583 Series, like many, many others is a 1-1.5 MOA shooter, the same as many of my hunting rifles.  Even with iron sights, bowling pins (a 2 MOA wide target at 200yds) make an easy target for my Ranch Rifle.  Scoped newer Minis are as accurate as your average hunting rifle.  It's an alternative to shooting your AR all the time.  I have 2 ARs and a Mini and both are a good time.

Link Posted: 10/18/2015 10:35:54 PM EDT
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67 so maybe you just like the way a traditional rifle handles over a newer military style rifle?

I'm still quite young at 23 and bought an AR as soon as I turned 18 so that's what I like and prefer for the most part.
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I'm 27, my first firearm was a Bushmaster piston AR at age 18.

I prefer the way my mini-14 GB folder handles over my ARs. The only other .223 rifle I enjoy shooting is my AUG A1. I don't have an AR-15 in the safe anymore period unless you count the stripped SBR lower from my Colt that I can't sell without major headache.

Both AUG and Mini are far lighter and point faster for me than the AR-15 Block I clone, PWS Diablo, and Colt 6945 that I sold off earlier this year. The range I go to is a 100 yard range max. so accuracy past 100 yards isn't much of a concern for me. Fun is a much larger concern and the mini and AUG are just plain fun to shoot.

I'm actually looking for a Mini in .300 Blackout now to drop into a spare factory folder that's been hanging around my house for a few years.
Link Posted: 10/19/2015 7:58:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/19/2015 8:14:11 AM EDT
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I kind of feel the same way OP.  I like the Mini, but I love the M1 carbine.  If there was an M1 carbine in 5.56 I would never look back.






Link Posted: 10/19/2015 9:27:59 PM EDT
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"accurate as an AR...?" Here's my SCR with a 20" Match Krieger upper:


http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/20-inch%20heavy%20barrel.jpg
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Have you looked @ the Ares SCR?  It may carry like your Mini-14.



This.  The SCR lower can use any AR upper.  Only the carrier (but not the bolt, cam pin, firing pin) has to be changed out for their proprietary one.  It's basically the front half of a standard AR bolt carrier with a rat tail that goes down into the stock like a semi shotgun:





http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/P1060530-900x600.jpg





In fact, the stocks (there are 3 choices) are externally identical to the Remington 1100 and with some internal modification, other 1100 stocks (e.g., wood ones) can be used:





http://i57.tinypic.com/9i9reo.jpg





Best of both worlds.





Interesting design.  I'd like to see if it is as accurate as an AR.  


 



"accurate as an AR...?" Here's my SCR with a 20" Match Krieger upper:


http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh249/ColdBlue_2008/20-inch%20heavy%20barrel.jpg



Looks good but that says nothing about it's accuracy.  I don't know anything about them other than seeing yours.  How does it shoot?




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67 so maybe you just like the way a traditional rifle handles over a newer military style rifle?



I'm still quite young at 23 and bought an AR as soon as I turned 18 so that's what I like and prefer for the most part.


I should add, at 19, I went into the Army and while I went through basic with an M14, when I got to RVN, I was issued an M16 so I'm very familiar with the platform, the good, bad, and ugly.





 
Link Posted: 10/19/2015 10:02:19 PM EDT
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Own 2 AR's and 2 Mini's(582 & 583)---like them both

My Mini's come out and play more often also
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