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Posted: 1/14/2012 7:58:37 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I'm about ready to sell the thing and I've only had it a week and have not fired it. B |
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Posted: 1/14/2012 9:58:34 AM
Over a bolt stop? Really? If you really hate it that much without having shot it, I'll give you $550 for it shipped to my dealer.
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Posted: 1/14/2012 10:11:00 AM
[Last Edit: 1/14/2012 12:19:16 PM by bpm990d]
I've had Pakistani pocket knives that are not as sharp as the edges on the bolt catch. It's not the only issue. The thing cycles poorly because the ejector hangs up on the extractor collar during extraction and the slot in the bolt face during feeding. Its shape is poorly engineered.The poor magazine fit only exacerbates it. Just sayin.
BTW do you have a link to a replacement part, or do I have to file it?
$550 would be about $250 too little. |
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Posted: 1/14/2012 11:59:04 AM
Use the shit out of it and the catching and sharp edges magically go away; buy the new polymer mags and the mag wobble disappears. Then enjoy the thing.
I would never buy a gun in the first place without at least handling it and taking it down first. More often than not I will even shoot before I buy. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 1/14/2012 4:48:08 PM
Originally Posted By 0uTkAsT:
Use the shit out of it and the catching and sharp edges magically go away; buy the new polymer mags and the mag wobble disappears. Then enjoy the thing. This! Personally I love my GSR but I went into know that for $800.00 there would be some tradeoffs. YMMV. |
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Posted: 1/14/2012 5:47:24 PM
[Last Edit: 1/14/2012 5:52:31 PM by BigMat]
I guess I am not sure what gun you were expecting, its purpose and mission statement are clear, it was not built to be a high precision fit-and-finish type rifle. It is built with reliability and reasonable function as its focus. Loose tolerances and all that. My question is "does it work?" not "is it pretty?"
I love mine. Is it the "best gun" nope, but even with the issues you present, it will do what its advertised of doing, for a very reasonable amount of money. If you want a surgeon you should have bought a surgeon. |
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Posted: 1/14/2012 7:53:13 PM
Does anyone have a link to a replacement bolt stop or not?
Thanks. B |
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Posted: 1/15/2012 12:44:55 AM
Originally Posted By bpm990d: Does anyone have a link to a replacement bolt stop or not? Thanks. B I dount you'll have much luck, there isn't much aftermarket support for the rifle yet. Numrich sells bolt stops for the Ruger 77s but I am going to just guess they are one and the same. this one is stainless, maybe be easier to file down? http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=501700&catid=8324 |
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Posted: 1/15/2012 9:55:48 AM
Originally Posted By 0uTkAsT:
Use the shit out of it and the catching and sharp edges magically go away; buy the new polymer mags and the mag wobble disappears. Then enjoy the thing. I would never buy a gun in the first place without at least handling it and taking it down first. More often than not I will even shoot before I buy. Problem solved. BOOM!! Take it out and shoot it. Sitting around and cycling live rounds through it in your mom's basement is not the same thing. My $550 offer still stands. |
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Posted: 1/15/2012 10:14:12 AM
They were not live rounds. They were cases that I resized and seated ball projectiles in to act as dummy cartridge. They are sized down below zero on a RCBS Precision mic. They should function. Both of my Winchester M70s (long action CRF, and short push feed) and the Mauser 98 Scout rifle I own feed them slick as snot.
Tell you what, for the pleasure of owning a former firearm that I owned, I sell it to you for the bargain price of $1300, you pay the shipping and FFL charges. I'm sure the sharp as fuck bolt stop will ruin some of your expensive hunting clothing if you ever manage to get out of your mom's basement. B |
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Posted: 1/19/2012 9:44:47 AM
Have you shot it yet?
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Posted: 1/19/2012 6:06:03 PM
Not yet. Still polishing parts. The cocking cam was terrible. If I can get to the trigger to clean that up this weekend, I might be able to get to the range.
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Posted: 1/21/2012 7:45:02 AM
Originally Posted By Surly:
Over a bolt stop? Really? If you really hate it that much without having shot it, I'll give you $550 for it shipped to my dealer. Heck-I'll give you $600 for it |
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Posted: 1/21/2012 11:05:29 AM
Originally Posted By bpm990d:
Tell you what, for the pleasure of owning a former firearm that I owned, I sell it to you for the bargain price of $1300, you pay the shipping and FFL charges. I'm sure the sharp as fuck bolt stop will ruin some of your expensive hunting clothing if you ever manage to get out of your mom's basement. B If you want to try to insult me, Mr. Airsoft, try manufacturing your own instead of regurgitating mine. I'll send you 1300 pesos for it immediately. Give me your mom's addy and I'll get it out to you today once I figure the dollar conversion. She'll be upset when she finds out you sold your Christmas present from her, but when you shoot your eye out with it, there's no coming back. Tell her I'm doing you, and her, a big favor that way. Gracias muchachito! |
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Posted: 1/26/2012 8:37:58 AM
[Last Edit: 1/26/2012 8:39:23 AM by Captains1911]
Still wondering if this gun has actually been fired yet. And why would you attempt to polish the trigger without shooting it first? For those of us who actually shoot our GSRs, we can tell you that the trigger is good as is. IMO this thread is full of fail.
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Posted: 1/26/2012 2:29:22 PM
Originally Posted By Captains1911:
What he said. It is not a precision rifle, however mine was far, far nicer out of the box than any Winchester or Remington I've purchased recently. The trigger is great for this type of rifle, and the fit and finish are cosmetic gripes that can be fixed in 15 minutes of polishing if you're picky enough, or an hour of shooting if you're like the rest of us. Sounds like the OP should stick to Steyrs and Tikkas because apparently that's what he's expecting to pull out of the box when he buys a bolt gun.Still wondering if this gun has actually been fired yet. And why would you attempt to polish the trigger without shooting it first? For those of us who actually shoot our GSRs, we can tell you that the trigger is good as is. IMO this thread is full of fail. |
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Posted: 1/26/2012 8:08:14 PM
Originally Posted By Captains1911:
Still wondering if this gun has actually been fired yet. And why would you attempt to polish the trigger without shooting it first? For those of us who actually shoot our GSRs, we can tell you that the trigger is good as is. IMO this thread is full of fail. The same reason I got and installed an Apex sear for my S&W M&P before I ever shot it. Because the trigger sucked. I'm glad you like yours and get to shoot it. I'll shoot mine when I'm good and ready to shoot it. Why you care is beyond me. You know what is full of fail. Ruger using the sharpest thing I have ever seen on a firearm besides a bayonet for the bolt stop. You know what else is full of fail? A bunch of fan-boys that can't even point me to a replacement part. B |
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Posted: 1/26/2012 10:11:34 PM
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Posted: 1/27/2012 12:29:28 AM
Originally Posted By bpm990d:
[ You know what is full of fail. Ruger using the sharpest thing I have ever seen on a firearm besides a bayonet for the bolt stop. I can't, for the life of me, comprehend how you have managed to slice yourself up so bad on this part. Not in the least. It's not a "sharp" part. Not even close. I think you need to toughen up your hands a little - the problem might not be the part, here...
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Posted: 1/27/2012 5:46:47 AM
Have you thought about calling ruger and having them fix it/ send you a new part, only?
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Posted: 1/27/2012 11:04:25 AM
[Last Edit: 1/27/2012 11:04:58 AM by BigMat]
The reason people care is because you are on a public internet board, posting about a rifle you have never fired, complaining about a part that doesn't matter and fit & finish in a gun, meant for rough use. Beyond that, it took about 5 mins. of looking to find a replacement 77 bolt stop that would probably work. See my post several above this one. You sound ridicules and your thread is worthless. Are you just here to complain, as that's how it sounds?
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Posted: 1/28/2012 10:06:39 AM
Originally Posted By BigMat:
The reason people care is because you are on a public internet board, posting about a rifle you have never fired, complaining about a part that doesn't matter and fit & finish in a gun, meant for rough use. Beyond that, it took about 5 mins. of looking to find a replacement 77 bolt stop that would probably work. See my post several above this one. You sound ridicules and your thread is worthless. Are you just here to complain, as that's how it sounds? That's exactly what he's here to do. Thrash a rifle his mom bought him and he hasn't shot because it's not good enough. There needs to be a safe queen forum for non-shooting experts like him. |
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Posted: 4/20/2012 12:01:40 AM
If the rifle were mine and the bolt catch was indeed sharp enough to cut me, I would use a sharpening stone or a file to break that sharp edge then hit it with cold blue. Problem solved.
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Posted: 4/20/2012 2:14:25 PM
3 months later.....he probably still hasn't fired it....
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Posted: 4/20/2012 2:30:56 PM
Why get on here and bitch about your new unfired rifle that apparently sucks right out the box? Call Ruger CS and talk to them, or the place you bought it from.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 3:25:37 PM
I have shot and fired about 10 or so GSR and variations thereof. Earlier production models were better QC than later models, and some differences exist, although merely cosmetic in nature.
I have put a lot of rounds down range, and performed quite a few drills which require fast handling and precise manipulation of the weapon. I have never received an injury from the rifle in any way shape or form. Perhaps you have been spoiled by custom rifles or higher quality firearms. Anytime I purchase a rifle for under 1 grand, I usually have a few alterations made, but only after running ammo through it to evaluate my desires/ needs. The GSR was good for me, as out of the box. Polishing the action was done after a thorough break-in. The GSR was built as a durable and rugged general purpose weapon, and as such has features not found on any firearm in the same price range. De-horning it or having the corners melted, is something any competent gunsmith can do. Although I have never experienced a GSR with dangerously sharp edges, and I have handled more than most. Perhaps if you do a bit of research, and see if it is an isolated problem with your rifle. Perhaps it is a bit out of spec, if so Ruger would take care of it. Bear in mind Ruger is not taking orders right now, as they are swamped with business. While the GSR is not a "perfect" and true to specifications scout rifle, it is certainly the closest thing you can get for the money. Savage also makes a Scout model, but would require significant investment in customizing by a competent smith, to include the same features on the Ruger. In terms of accuracy, ruggedness, reliability, features and overall value Ruger really has no competitors as of yet. You have a few options to resolve the situation: 1. Fork over the cash and purchase the Steyr Scout, which is the closest current production rifle to meeting specs for a scout. 2. Fork over the cash for a Predator Custom Scout Package, which includes optic, custom finish, and other features based on a Savage (They also have a Remington in stock for conversion as a scout) 3 Have a gunsmith de-horn or melt your edges and make other alteration you deem necessary. 4 If it is out of spec, have Ruger fix the problem for you. Remember if you sell it, it is likely to prove hard to get one anytime soon, for a decent price due to demand. The Steyr, Predator Custom, and Grizzly Custom are all higher levels of finish. The cheapest of the three being the Predator Custom Savage Scout, which starts at $1395 w/ optic. The Steyr comes in a tad over $2,000 but is well worth it. The Grizzly Custom is the higher priced, though exceptionally well crafted option with a price tag somewhere around $4000 IIRC.This is one of those times, where you get what you pay for. Personally, I have no issues with the GSR, as it does exactly what is is designed to do. "Jumping the Gun" so to speak, before even shooting it, and claiming the entire weapon is a disappointment is a bit unjust. I do not care for the looks of the rifle, but I highly respect it's capabilities and what it represents. It is not perfect, but you also will not find perfect for under $1K. Do some research, compare yours to other GSRs to see if it is a defect or not. If not defective, I do not see the problem, and I have a lot of trigger time behind many GSRs. At least go out and shoot it some, and you will see where this rifle shines. It was made to shoot, not look pretty. As designed, there are no safety hazards from sharp edges, unless the technique itself/ shooting habits are poor/ bad. Please post a picture of the alleged shaving implement, so we can see your concerns. Perhaps your rifle is a limited edition collaboration with Schick/ Gillette. -PC- |
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