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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - does having a 6 position buffer tube with out a stock, make it a rifle??

Posted: 2/3/2017 8:54:45 PM EDT

I'm building a 9mm AR, and until I get it built and get the form 1 done and paid for and sent it, it will be a pistol. My question is if i bought a kit like this one from AIM Can I use the 6 position tube on it and it still be classified a pistol??

I mean I'll buy a pistol tube if I have to, but that kit there has all I need for the back end of the gun, and it will be ready for a stock when the stamp comes back...

Posted: 2/3/2017 9:00:48 PM EDT

[#1]

Without a stock, it's not designed to be fired from the shoulder, thus it's not a rifle. You wouldn't want to have a spare stock in the vicinity. Most people wrap theirs with paracord to prevent any possible issue.

Posted: 2/3/2017 9:00:49 PM EDT

[#2]

I remember researching this about a year ago when I built mine and I think the answer is no because it can readily accept a stock. Not 100% certain, though.

ETA: BigWaylon beat me by a second, I'd probably trust him on this.

Posted: 2/3/2017 9:19:45 PM EDT

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Without a stock, it's not designed to be fired from the shoulder, thus it's not a rifle. You wouldn't want to have a spare stock in the vicinity. Most people wrap theirs with paracord to prevent any possible issue.

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Nice

I make a bit of money this weekend at the funshow, I'll be ordering that from AIM.

Posted: 2/3/2017 9:35:58 PM EDT

[#4]

A1 and A2 buffer tubes, by themselves without the solid stock,
are handy things to have around, too.
i mean, who has a solid stock just lying around. ?

Jus' Sayin' IMHO YMMV

Posted: 2/3/2017 10:01:48 PM EDT

[#5]

I picked up a shockwave tube for $20. Uses the carbine spring and buffer.
Check Rainier arms.

Posted: 2/3/2017 10:15:34 PM EDT

[#6]

The buffer tube is called a receiver extension by the ATF. Any buffer tube is not a stock and is designed to guide and contain the buffer and buffer spring. Only when a stock is mounted onto the buffer tube can the receiver become a rifle, and only when an upper is pinned onto it.

Any bare tube, not a rifle
Add any stock, can become a rifle

Some people wrap the collapsible tubes with Paracord to make it more time consuming to add a stock.

Some state laws may be different, the above is for ATF.

Posted: 2/3/2017 10:29:05 PM EDT

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The buffer tube is called a receiver extension by the ATF. Any buffer tube is not a stock and is designed to guide and contain the buffer and buffer spring. Only when a stock is mounted onto the buffer tube can the receiver become a rifle, and only when an upper is pinned onto it.

Any bare tube, not a rifle
Add any stock, can become a rifle

Some people wrap the collapsible tubes with Paracord to make it more time consuming to add a stock.

Some state laws may be different, the above is for ATF.

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Thanks I roll per ATF, I'm in WV we do what we want pretty much within fed regs

Posted: 2/4/2017 11:50:40 AM EDT

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The buffer tube is called a receiver extension by the ATF. Any buffer tube is not a stock and is designed to guide and contain the buffer and buffer spring. Only when a stock is mounted onto the buffer tube can the receiver become a rifle, and only when an upper is pinned onto it.

Any bare tube, not a rifle
Add any stock, can become a rifle

Some people wrap the collapsible tubes with Paracord to make it more time consuming to add a stock.

Some state laws may be different, the above is for ATF.

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I'm in a seemingly identical situation. I need to finish and test a 9mm build and I plan to use an ace bandage to wrap the buffer tube

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - does having a 6 position buffer tube with out a stock, make it a rifle??

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