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Posted: 11/15/2016 8:24:40 PM EDT
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Yes, you need an approved Form 5320.20.
You will need an actual address where you and the SBR will be, like your bud's or a range. You will also need the name of the county in which the address is located. You mail in TWO copies, they mail back one if "they" approve. I don't have a lot of experience filing 5320.20's but in January it took about a month to receive the approval for the last 5320.20 I sent in. I'm curious how long they might be taking now since I sent one in a couple of weeks ago for a hog hunt in January. BTW, if you google "Form 5320.20" NFA Lawyers or another NFA specialist form has the form on line in a "fill out, save and print" format which beats scribbling with a pen. Also, you need to have that approved form with you when you travel to your bud's. Good idea to bring SBR stamp and any suppressor stamps too. JPK |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 8:33:37 PM EDT
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Maybe this post helps explain the form.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 12:22:40 AM EDT
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I got mine back in three weeks about two months ago. I think if you fax it in and ask nicely they may expedite it for you.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:00:48 AM EDT
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Took about a month for my forms to return back in August. From a recommendation online I filed my forms for a one year time frame. I'll drop another couple of forms next year before these run out. One form for suppressors, one form for SBR. Copies printed and laminated for the gun bag, originals in the safe.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:12:51 AM EDT
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Thanks for the info guys
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Posted: 11/18/2016 12:54:08 AM EDT
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https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/atf-f-5320-20pdf-0/download
Here is a link that will allow you to type in your information before you print it. |
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Posted: 11/24/2016 11:37:34 PM EDT
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If the SBR started as a pistol and you put it back to pistol form, ie; blade/brace configuration, would that be ok to cross state lines legally?
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Posted: 11/25/2016 10:46:08 AM EDT
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This whole process is stupid. I guess you guys doing forms for a year go back to the same place a lot with your NFA items?
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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:55:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This whole process is stupid. I guess you guys doing forms for a year go back to the same place a lot with your NFA items? In my case yes. I live 5 miles from the PA state line, and a gun club/range I belong to is in PA. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 12:17:42 PM EDT
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In my case yes. I live 5 miles from the PA state line, and a gun club/range I belong to is in PA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This whole process is stupid. I guess you guys doing forms for a year go back to the same place a lot with your NFA items? In my case yes. I live 5 miles from the PA state line, and a gun club/range I belong to is in PA. Same here -- I live within 1mi of the state line, gun club is a few miles south also on the state line, but on the other side. But if I did want to go anywhere else in the state, I could, provided I perform the interstate transport to the specified location first (my interpretation, which is a little more conservative than some). My further travel within the state isn't federally regulated. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 2:23:58 PM EDT
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If the SBR started as a pistol and you put it back to pistol form, ie; blade/brace configuration, would that be ok to cross state lines legally? There are two issues here. 1. The first one is easy. If it's not configured as an SBR, it's not an SBR as far as the 5320.20 is concerned, and thus doesn't need approval for interstate travel. The ATF has clearly answered this before, but with the question being focused on putting a 16" upper on it. 2. Can you legally return an SBR to a pistol configuration...or is it simply still an SBR (as it's a weapon made from a rifle at that point). Similar to converting an SBS to what would seem to be an AOW, but it's still technically an SBS. I completely understand both sides of the discussion, and know which side I'm on, but it's still a gray area to me. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 2:25:05 PM EDT
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This whole process is stupid. I guess you guys doing forms for a year go back to the same place a lot with your NFA items? I have forms approved for states I've never taken an SBR to. I just pick a range in the state and submit the form, whether I'm going to that location or not. I'm just needing the permission to cross the state line. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 7:14:42 PM EDT
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Fwiw, it took about a month to get the older of two recent 5320.20s I mailed in back in the mail approved. Came Wednesday. I would check the actual date I signed, but I'm out of town deer hunting till Monday and the approved form is back home.
I think the whole "need approval for travel" issue stupid too, and hope it goes away, but with a little forethought it isn't nearly the hassle the new 41FU procedures are. JPK |
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Posted: 11/27/2016 12:58:32 PM EDT
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I have forms approved for states I've never taken an SBR to. I just pick a range in the state and submit the form, whether I'm going to that location or not. I'm just needing the permission to cross the state line. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This whole process is stupid. I guess you guys doing forms for a year go back to the same place a lot with your NFA items? I have forms approved for states I've never taken an SBR to. I just pick a range in the state and submit the form, whether I'm going to that location or not. I'm just needing the permission to cross the state line. what do you put for the dates? |
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Posted: 11/27/2016 2:43:24 PM EDT
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what do you put for the dates? They'll take any one year period. For example, 1/1/17-12/31/17 or 11/28/16-11/27/17. Just can't be over a year, so you can't put the same date the next year. When I first started, I filed from the current date to 12/31...then started a cycle of filing each fall for the next year. Just easier for me to remember. Just as an example, here's a recently approved form for 2017. The pic is from the 41F thread/sticky I did: 
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Posted: 11/29/2016 7:47:11 AM EDT
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They'll take any one year period. For example, 1/1/17-12/31/17 or 11/28/16-11/27/17. Just can't be over a year, so you can't put the same date the next year. When I first started, I filed from the current date to 12/31...then started a cycle of filing each fall for the next year. Just easier for me to remember. Just as an example, here's a recently approved form for 2017. The pic is from the 41F thread/sticky I did: http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/thegreghorton/41F%20Forms/5320.20%204_zps2w0dkpqz.png Quote HistoryQuoted:
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what do you put for the dates? They'll take any one year period. For example, 1/1/17-12/31/17 or 11/28/16-11/27/17. Just can't be over a year, so you can't put the same date the next year. When I first started, I filed from the current date to 12/31...then started a cycle of filing each fall for the next year. Just easier for me to remember. Just as an example, here's a recently approved form for 2017. The pic is from the 41F thread/sticky I did: http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/thegreghorton/41F%20Forms/5320.20%204_zps2w0dkpqz.png They will also take an "INDEF" in the return date column. I'm AD military and move a lot. They've approved them every time with an accompanied letter. |
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Posted: 11/29/2016 8:59:02 AM EDT
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They will also take an "INDEF" in the return date column. I'm AD military and move a lot. They've approved them every time with an accompanied letter. First I've ever heard of that, but definitely good to know. I'd assume without the letter it would get kicked back. |
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Posted: 11/29/2016 11:20:13 PM EDT
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My dad lives in MI and I shoot with him a couple times every summer. I filed the form in July and it took exactly two weeks door to door.
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Posted: 11/30/2016 4:56:26 AM EDT
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First I've ever heard of that, but definitely good to know. I'd assume without the letter it would get kicked back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They will also take an "INDEF" in the return date column. I'm AD military and move a lot. They've approved them every time with an accompanied letter. First I've ever heard of that, but definitely good to know. I'd assume without the letter it would get kicked back. I'm interested in this. My brother and I have a cabin in CO; he's on my trust, and I'd like to leave some things out there from time to time. If using "INDEF", can I move them back and forth at will? |
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Posted: 11/30/2016 7:14:26 AM EDT
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I'm interested in this. My brother and I have a cabin in CO; he's on my trust, and I'd like to leave some things out there from time to time. If using "INDEF", can I move them back and forth at will? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They will also take an "INDEF" in the return date column. I'm AD military and move a lot. They've approved them every time with an accompanied letter. First I've ever heard of that, but definitely good to know. I'd assume without the letter it would get kicked back. I'm interested in this. My brother and I have a cabin in CO; he's on my trust, and I'd like to leave some things out there from time to time. If using "INDEF", can I move them back and forth at will? Likely will need the letter explaining the INDEF time frame. I am betting it is an exemption due to military duties. |
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Posted: 11/30/2016 9:13:51 AM EDT
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I'm interested in this. My brother and I have a cabin in CO; he's on my trust, and I'd like to leave some things out there from time to time. If using "INDEF", can I move them back and forth at will? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They will also take an "INDEF" in the return date column. I'm AD military and move a lot. They've approved them every time with an accompanied letter. First I've ever heard of that, but definitely good to know. I'd assume without the letter it would get kicked back. I'm interested in this. My brother and I have a cabin in CO; he's on my trust, and I'd like to leave some things out there from time to time. If using "INDEF", can I move them back and forth at will? An annual year long filing would do. Just send in a 5320.20 every year with a one year period given. |
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Posted: 11/30/2016 12:20:31 PM EDT
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I just opened some mail and found my most recent 5320.20. I signed it 11-1 and they stamped it 11-20.
JPK |
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Posted: 12/2/2016 8:11:18 AM EDT
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I have forms approved for states I've never taken an SBR to. I just pick a range in the state and submit the form, whether I'm going to that location or not. I'm just needing the permission to cross the state line. So just driving through a state I need somewhere listed? Need to get from GA to LA and was just putting my stop in LA. |
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Posted: 12/2/2016 11:32:53 AM EDT
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So just driving through a state I need somewhere listed? Need to get from GA to LA and was just putting my stop in LA. Technically, no...it should I be for destination states only. The Safe Passage provision of FOPA is supposed to cover you when passing through. Quick stops for fuel and food are OK, but that's about it. However, some states raise a ruckus anyway and you have to use FOPA as defense, not prevention. Don't know if any of those between GA & LA unless you take a real strange route through the northeast or somewhere like CA or IL. 
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