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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:27:55 PM EDT
[#1]
Holy Fuck!!!!!!
I would want my money back and a do-over! |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:29:51 PM EDT
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Holy Fuck!!!!!!
I would want my money back and a do-over! Yeah thats fucking horrible |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:30:08 PM EDT
[#3]
FPNI
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:30:38 PM EDT
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Do over? How on earth is that possible here... You would have to sand the entire lower down and re do it. They didnt charge me, but like the money matters in this situation... I didnt build a suppressed 300 blackout thinking about money...
I'm literally speechless right now. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:32:47 PM EDT
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OP, I wouldn't put company address and phone number in post just yet. Rules.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:33:29 PM EDT
[#6]
Approved form already?
CHRIS |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:33:40 PM EDT
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Are there any engravers / nfa lawyers on here which can comment on the fix-ability of this as well as the legality of now converting to a SBR?
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:34:14 PM EDT
[#8]
wow
that is horrible 
try to remove the white paint and see if that makes a difference but I would for sure ask for my money back |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:34:41 PM EDT
[#9]
Corrected that... New
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:35:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Yes, approved already...
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:35:51 PM EDT
[#11]
Thats not paint... thats engraved.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:36:28 PM EDT
[#12]
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Are there any engravers / nfa lawyers on here which can comment on the fix-ability of this as well as the legality of now converting to a SBR? I do not think that can be fixed but like I mentioned remove the white paint worst case scenario is you have to engrave it in another spot |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:37:34 PM EDT
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Thats not paint... thats engraved. that was engrave that way wow never seen that or heard of that before all my engravings where just black I figured they color filled it in |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:42:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:53:50 PM EDT
[#15]
OMG
looks like he used some 40 year old technology vibrating douche tool. or dremel, I feel bad for you and your gun. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 5:59:00 PM EDT
[#16]
Possibly fill with a lot of black acrylic paint, smooth it out and have it re engraved elsewhere.
ETA: Or maybe try some of this: http://www.innotecworld.com/products/sealants-glues.php?productid=15 |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:01:01 PM EDT
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Before you give up try some aluminablack (or a black felttip) and see if it's really that bad. Looks like the finish on the lower cooked off.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:02:36 PM EDT
[#18]
very close to not being legible.
Example: If someone couldn't read your id, what would you have. Not very knowledgable with nfa requirements, but i've read about depth of engraving being important. Time and expence for such a let down. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:03:57 PM EDT
[#19]
perfect angle:
straight on: |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:08:04 PM EDT
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perfect angle: http://s12.postimg.org/l3lkylgy5/SBRdestroyed2.png straight on: http://s17.postimg.org/k8egfr267/SBRdestroyed3.png I'd be pissed but that looks legal I've had engraving fucked up before too so I know your pain |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:12:31 PM EDT
[#21]
Put some alumniback on it and roll with it.
I would be pissed but it is readable. I wouldn't be concerned with trying to fix it. One of my buddy's engraved his by hand and they look way worse than that lol |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:12:56 PM EDT
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perfect angle: http://s12.postimg.org/l3lkylgy5/SBRdestroyed2.png straight on: http://s17.postimg.org/k8egfr267/SBRdestroyed3.png The engraving isn't that appealing but it's still ledgable OP I'd send it out to be ceokoted by someone good after a good bead blast and cerakote it'll look many times better, Hope this helps. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:22:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Perfectly legal but they fucked up.
Alumablack as mentioned previously, or paint/refinish the lower and it will look pretty decent. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:25:01 PM EDT
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know any real professionals who can refinish and redo this? what kind of cost am i looking at?
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:28:31 PM EDT
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know any real professionals who can refinish and redo this? what kind of cost am i looking at? Think roughly $75-$100 to have it cerokoted |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:30:24 PM EDT
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would cerokoting it get rid of it? or just fill it in some?
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:31:45 PM EDT
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know any real professionals who can refinish and redo this? what kind of cost am i looking at? I bet THSF can "fix" it. They'd use a laser to remove a rectangle including the letters, then you'd have a recessed area for the new engraving. How deep are the letters? ...or, just leave it as is and you'll always have a story to tell. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:33:20 PM EDT
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I have no idea how deep it is, either does the idiot fuckstick who did it... Which is another concern of mine now, before the job he told me it would definately be deeper then .003... I guess this is what I get for not sending it off to a professional. Who is THSF?
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:36:20 PM EDT
[#29]
Tar Heel State Firearms.
It definitely looks deep enough to be legal, it's just a matter of whether it's too deep to redo. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:40:54 PM EDT
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Wow glad I saw this thread, that is fubar. I'm going to send my stuff to Tarheel State Firearms, at least I know they do good work.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:52:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Good example of why its best to engrave before submitting paperwork.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 6:59:07 PM EDT
[#32]
Op, do you feel rough edges protruding from the surface like little wiskers or is the engraving complete flush with the standard surface. The first image almost looks like someone didn't blow the excess "shavings" out as the machine was running. If that's the case you might beep able to clean it up a bit more with a dental pick.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 7:02:04 PM EDT
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Still better than this guy haha.
https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=51&t=436434 |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 7:12:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Shit, after seeing that, I may just leave it if it's legal... And there are no shavings hanging out... Just sucks... This is a PWS MK109 in 300 BLK with a Gemtech 300-BLK can on it, aimpoint t2, and the works... not a cheap gun, wasn't looking for a cheap engraving... looks like i got one though...
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Posted: 9/22/2016 7:20:34 PM EDT
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Damn, I did mine with a $20 Dremel engraver I got at Home Depot, and it doesn't look (quite) that bad. I'd be f-ing pissed.
OK, after seeing the pics with the lettering darkened, uh yeah...never mind. 
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Posted: 9/22/2016 7:21:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Looks like the engraving isn't terrible but the surrounding finish on the lower got cooked. Bead blast and cerakote would probably look good to go.
If it were me I wouldn't go scorched earth right away. With a refinsh or some elbow grease you would likely be satisfied with the results. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 7:58:14 PM EDT
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Try this company.
http://www.veritasmachiningllc.com/ |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 8:14:10 PM EDT
[#38]
 that's sad
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Posted: 9/22/2016 8:36:30 PM EDT
[#39]
What's the depth of the discolored areas which are circled in this photo:
It's hard to tell but it almost looks like the finish cooked or flaked off but there's no actual depth to the marks. Makes me wonder if the engraver had some sort of beam scatter occurring that was just enough to mark the finish but not enough to cut the material significantly. If that's the case, track down US anodizing in the retro forum and they can most likely reanodize the entire lower for a pretty reasonable price that the engraver may even be willing to cover. |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 9:06:36 PM EDT
[#40]
Use alumniblack on the white areas and forget about it. You'll never really worry about it again. I know it's not great but if it was all black I dont think it looks that bad.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 9:42:14 PM EDT
[#41]
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would cerokoting it get rid of it? or just fill it in some? They bead blast it before cerokoting so that should even everything out then have it coated black and it'll be just like new with a stronger finish |
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Posted: 9/22/2016 9:56:53 PM EDT
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Actually OP, it may not be as bad as it looks. Try some aluma black and see what happens. It should take care of the raw exposed aluminum. May just be the finish that got messed up and doesn't actually go into the aluminum any.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 10:09:32 PM EDT
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You can read it, so it's legal, just looks like shit. I'd paint it black and rock on.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 10:17:54 PM EDT
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I build many types of industrial "marking" lasers for a living. I can't tell for the life of me what they did to it. Depth of mark?
Eta: after reading the rest of the thread. The white marks are where the laser annealed the anodizing. I am guessing they used a laser in the 30-60watt range and aren't familiar with the material they are marking. Lazing at the wrong speed or frequency has different effects on the anodizing and metal. Some frequencies may anneal(destroy surface pigment[white marks]) on one material or cut through another. To cut through the hard anodizing and .003 into aluminum with that size laser will take multiple slow passes. Probably hundreds. Moving the lower while "testing" their settings resulted in that catastrophe. To fix it would depend on how deep it is? Can you feel it, dig a fingernail in? If you can You would need to mill it off. If it's close to the surface You could possible clean it up with a laser. |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 12:48:16 AM EDT
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How much are you going to spend to fix a $100 lower?
If you want a perfect SBR, just form 1 another lower. Take this one and go nuts being that guy with Krylon paint. Its not great, but looks perfectly legal, stop obsessing... |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 7:25:00 AM EDT
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How much are you going to spend to fix a $100 $300 lower? FTFY. Already stamped. |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 7:32:46 AM EDT
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The majority of that would clean up nicely if someone took a an endmill and made a solid box a thou deep or so, I'd guess. If not, just continue the box deeper and reengrave.
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Posted: 9/23/2016 7:36:44 AM EDT
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FTFY. Already stamped. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How much are you going to spend to fix a $100 $300 lower? FTFY. Already stamped. The $200 can be refunded if it was that big of a deal, and the wait didn't matter. |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 7:47:07 AM EDT
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I could do better work freehand with a dremel.
Pretty much your only answer is to build another SBR. Get another nice lower, send it someplace REPUTABLE to have the engraving done, and replace that one. Since that one is already approved, might as well run it. Throw a basic 11.5" upper on it and call it good. Most everyone babies the fuck out of their SBRs, because of the hoops they have to jump through. It would be refreshing to see a few well worn "beater" SBRs out there. |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 8:25:50 AM EDT
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It's a gun fill it in with crayon and go the range, why waste more money on it as it doesn't hurt anything but it's ugly.
I have seen machineguns with dremeled user names at the range. |
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