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Posted: 5/20/2016 1:34:28 AM EDT
Just looking for suggestions on what I need to get before 41F. Note just bought a z5p
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 1:42:08 AM EDT
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All of them.
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 1:55:34 AM EDT
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If only my wallet agreed with that statement
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 2:34:38 AM EDT
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Need...none. As much as 41f sucks it doesn't change much. Prints are cheap and it will cost a few dollars more but otherwise no significant change. If you want an excuse to buy some SBR's then go for it, but 41p won't prevent you from buying an SBR when it goes into effect as many act lately (hence the significant increase in stamp wait times).
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 2:39:12 AM EDT
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What you can do is start with a 556 lower. You get flexibility with different calibers you can run with. 300 blackout, 556 obviously, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 x 39, 22 and so on and so forth.

For me I got a 556 lower, AK SBR, MPX form one waiting, and working on a 308 SBR.
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 8:01:52 AM EDT
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Need...none. As much as 41f sucks it doesn't change much. Prints are cheap and it will cost a few dollars more but otherwise no significant change. If you want an excuse to buy some SBR's then go for it, but 41p won't prevent you from buying an SBR when it goes into effect as many act lately (hence the significant increase in stamp wait times).
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All I need is an excuse! And I know it won't prevent me from buying more, I'm probably just not going to for awhile! That and I'm waiting on 6 more stamps at this point
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 8:04:08 AM EDT
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What you can do is start with a 556 lower. You get flexibility with different calibers you can run with. 300 blackout, 556 obviously, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 x 39, 22 and so on and so forth.

For me I got a 556 lower, AK SBR, MPX form one waiting, and working on a 308 SBR.
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I'm considering an MPX just not sure if I'm beating a dead horse at this point with the 9MM sub guns

I have a  cz scorpion, MP5k, MP5 full size
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 8:25:47 AM EDT
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If it were me, and I even cared about 41F... I would say get a couple AR lowers and a Remington 870 and get them pending

You already have a stellar PCC with the Zenith, now you just need a couple SBR AR15's and a SBS
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 10:21:36 AM EDT
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1. Kriss Vector .45
   - Carbine requires barrel cut = $100...or send to Kriss for new barrel after engraving/tax stamp is received = $500
   - Pistol requires easier stock adaptor snafu'ing
   - Factory SBRs may be available for order, maybe June time frame

2. SCAR 16 or 17 ($ ouch)

3. Dedicated 300blk in 9" +/-

4. Sig5xx piston 10" or LWRC short stroke PDW 8.5"

5. Dedicated 556 in 10" (or refer to #2 and #4)

6. Minimum of two suppressors
  - .45 can that's approved for 300blk Subs
  - 762 can approved for short barrels
  - Any required barrel mounts and threaded adaptors, direct thread mount.
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 10:22:10 AM EDT
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I'm considering an MPX just not sure if I'm beating a dead horse at this point with the 9MM sub guns

I have a  cz scorpion, MP5k, MP5 full size
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What you can do is start with a 556 lower. You get flexibility with different calibers you can run with. 300 blackout, 556 obviously, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 x 39, 22 and so on and so forth.

For me I got a 556 lower, AK SBR, MPX form one waiting, and working on a 308 SBR.

I'm considering an MPX just not sure if I'm beating a dead horse at this point with the 9MM sub guns

I have a  cz scorpion, MP5k, MP5 full size

I have a EVO and AR9 pending, I would get a couple of more lowers stamped just for future builds. Maybe a SBS if thats your thing.
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 10:24:26 AM EDT
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Draco or PAP
HK MP5 or M89K


AR for 5.56 and 300 BLK OUT


 



Link Posted: 5/20/2016 11:21:32 AM EDT
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2-4 ARs, at least one of which is 300 BLK

At least 1 MP5 clone


Link Posted: 5/20/2016 11:57:54 AM EDT
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What SBR's do you have at this point?
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 11:58:50 AM EDT
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Get a Swiss 553 or an Arsenal Krink.  They are my two non 9mm favorites.  A Ruger 10/22 is never a bad thing to have paperwork on either.
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 4:49:30 PM EDT
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Maybe a Krink?

I've SBR'd a couple AR's in 556, a couple in 300 BLK, a Scorpion and I'm thinking about doing a .308 AR since 41abcdefg came down. I also have a couple more AR's that were registered as 556 but at least one may end up being a .458 SOCOM
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 8:59:15 PM EDT
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I'll have:
4 AR lowers
CZ Evo
870 12"
M85 PAP 5.56
Wasr 63
10/22

I'd really like a vz61 and MP5. 87% sure they won't happen pre-41p
Link Posted: 5/20/2016 9:08:11 PM EDT
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You need three.

Arsenal SLR 104ur
Zenith Mp5
Daniel Defense Mk18

Link Posted: 5/21/2016 12:33:58 AM EDT
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Mp5 clone of some kind are my favorite.  As long as you have have a few lowers you should be good but defiantly a few good ones you should add before 41f.
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 1:26:19 AM EDT
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I'm considering an MPX just not sure if I'm beating a dead horse at this point with the 9MM sub guns

I have a  cz scorpion, MP5k, MP5 full size
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What you can do is start with a 556 lower. You get flexibility with different calibers you can run with. 300 blackout, 556 obviously, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 x 39, 22 and so on and so forth.

For me I got a 556 lower, AK SBR, MPX form one waiting, and working on a 308 SBR.

I'm considering an MPX just not sure if I'm beating a dead horse at this point with the 9MM sub guns

I have a  cz scorpion, MP5k, MP5 full size


It's totally up to you. Sense your three strikes in you might as well go all the way. I would say dry either a AK SBR or a 308 SBR.
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 3:58:47 PM EDT
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Arsenal SLR 104ur
Zenith Mp5
Daniel Defense Mk18

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I have all 3 right now
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 6:20:30 PM EDT
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I feel I don't have enough, plus I have a LWRC factory SBR and an AR build pending.

I may do a SBS but not sure on what is the best option (not a shotgun guy), I have an 870 I never shoot so maybe I'll chop that up before the new rules.



Link Posted: 5/21/2016 7:19:19 PM EDT
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I have:
12" 5.56 AR
10.5"  5.56 AR
10.5"  7.62x39 AK
12" 12ga Double shotgun

I need a subgun...  I am really hoping that LWRC does come out with that SMG45.  I also want to do a short 870.  I feel that is a good rounded out collection.
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 7:47:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/21/2016 7:53:46 PM EDT
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I feel I don't have enough, plus I have a LWRC factory SBR and an AR build pending.

I may do a SBS but not sure on what is the best option (not a shotgun guy), I have an 870 I never shoot so maybe I'll chop that up before the new rules.

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How do you like your MPX i keep considering it
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 8:45:46 PM EDT
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How do you like your MPX i keep considering it
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I feel I don't have enough, plus I have a LWRC factory SBR and an AR build pending.

I may do a SBS but not sure on what is the best option (not a shotgun guy), I have an 870 I never shoot so maybe I'll chop that up before the new rules.

<a href="http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/Johnharden810/media/68AC963E-3099-4FE9-8022-B477CD4E3CE5_zpsimtgr0p9.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q613/Johnharden810/68AC963E-3099-4FE9-8022-B477CD4E3CE5_zpsimtgr0p9.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/Johnharden810/media/AB40AD6F-AA54-4C98-AA80-78C72D8CA17D.png_zpspocwe134.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q613/Johnharden810/AB40AD6F-AA54-4C98-AA80-78C72D8CA17D.png_zpspocwe134.jpeg</a>

How do you like your MPX i keep considering it

I shoot it the most, partially because rifle ranges are farther away and force me to commit a full day to go shooting but also because the MPX is a lot of fun to shoot. I can take it to work and hit up an indoor pistol range after work. Fun!

But, your probably more interested in function. I got my MPX pretty early after it was released, chopped the barrel to 4.5" and didn't waist time SBRing it.

I'd guess I'm close to 8,000 rounds at this point, It is a gen 1 and has not caused me trouble other then needing to break in the magazines.

Some complain about the gas especially when suppressed but it doesn't bother me. I'm not saying it hasn't gassed me when shooting in doors doing mag dumps, I'm saying it doesn't bother me.
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 11:09:43 PM EDT
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Colt 6933, 6943, and/or 6945

If you're just now looking for factory SBRs prior to 41F you are way too late unless you find a dealer with items in stock in your home state. If you're going to form-1 them, then you are good to go.



A few AR lowers that are known to be in spec
SCAR16
SwissArms SIG 553
MP5 and/or MP5K-N
B&T APC9


The SIG 552 and 553 are hands down my absolute favorite SBRs.
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 11:44:20 PM EDT
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I lol'd
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 12:51:27 AM EDT
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Colt 6933, 6943, and/or 6945

If you're just now looking for factory SBRs prior to 41F you are way too late unless you find a dealer with items in stock in your home state. If you're going to form-1 them, then you are good to go.



A few AR lowers that are known to be in spec
SCAR16
SwissArms SIG 553
MP5 and/or MP5K-N
B&T APC9

Have a scar16 sbr
Mp5
Mp5k
Scorpion
Krink


The SIG 552 and 553 are hands down my absolute favorite SBRs.
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Link Posted: 5/22/2016 2:28:31 PM EDT
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I feel I don't have enough, plus I have a LWRC factory SBR and an AR build pending.

I may do a SBS but not sure on what is the best option (not a shotgun guy), I have an 870 I never shoot so maybe I'll chop that up before the new rules.

<a href="http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/Johnharden810/media/68AC963E-3099-4FE9-8022-B477CD4E3CE5_zpsimtgr0p9.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q613/Johnharden810/68AC963E-3099-4FE9-8022-B477CD4E3CE5_zpsimtgr0p9.jpg</a>

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Looks solid. I would have suggested a SBS like you said, I'm doing an 870, and then you're missing an MP5
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 4:00:42 PM EDT
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I would add a 4.5" .22lr AR sbr with suppressor to your list. One of my favorite ones to shoot.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 5:20:12 PM EDT
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Very good advice. If not a complete rig, at least an upper
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 7:52:08 PM EDT
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Hmm... Never shot a 22lr ar I guess they are a lot cheaper to feed haha. And as for the MP5 advice I have both the fullsize and K. One thing I'm dying for is the LWRC .45
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 8:54:26 PM EDT
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Hmm... Never shot a 22lr ar I guess they are a lot cheaper to feed haha. And as for the MP5 advice I have both the fullsize and K. One thing I'm dying for is the LWRC .45
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Yeah moving from a 9mm semi sub gun to a 22ar sbr felt like going to a pellet gun. I use a CMC 3.5lb single stage, 15-22 better mag adapter, CMMG 4.5" barrel/bolt combo, and Taccom pressure plug. Was inexpensive to build and runs very well with a standard SBR'd lower.
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