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Posted: 8/26/2015 3:28:42 PM EDT
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1. Lighter
2. More maneuverable 3. cooler |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 4:26:18 PM EDT
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The first time I did it was because I was building a 9mm AR and I think 16" barrels on a 9mm are stupid. The second time I did it I was going to build a Mk18 clone, but then I decided that cloning wasn't my thing, but a 10.5" AR was the perfect thing to be suppressed. Finally the last time I SBR'd an AR was when I decided I wanted a short barreled 6.8 SPC AR to hunt with, and a 12.5" barrel with a suppressor is pretty handy.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 9:27:42 PM EDT
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I am waiting on stamps, but for me it is OAL with a supressor, for predator hunting.
I need to go out of state for hog hunting, so have two 16" uppers for my son and I if the paperwork is an issue. JPK |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 9:49:18 PM EDT
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Simple: BRD.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 11:02:43 PM EDT
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...because I can... Thats it, nothing more. You are a GOD.....Sir...   
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Posted: 8/26/2015 11:08:54 PM EDT
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Because reasons. I'm at 5 SBR stamps so far, various calibers. http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/ARFCOM%20stuff/DSCF1682.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/ARFCOM%20stuff/IMG_20150526_181651_432.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/2013-03-04_18-00-12_756.jpg Are you James Bond...
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Posted: 8/26/2015 11:31:01 PM EDT
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Because reasons. I'm at 5 SBR stamps so far, various calibers. http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/ARFCOM%20stuff/DSCF1682.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/ARFCOM%20stuff/IMG_20150526_181651_432.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/2013-03-04_18-00-12_756.jpg Are you James Bond... Nah, I'm taller and better looking. .. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 10:44:02 PM EDT
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Someone told me this week that SBRs are stupid. And that he sees no point it them. I told him that he does not know what he is missing..
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Posted: 8/28/2015 8:52:26 AM EDT
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Someone told me this week that SBRs are I talked to this week is stupid. And that he sees no point it them. I told him that he does not know what he is missing.. Fixed it for you. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 11:52:31 AM EDT
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FYI, I deducted my whole rig from my taxes, all $5k of it, for pest control on my farm. Don't forget to deduct your tax stamps, you are not obligated to pay taxes twice, it's actually illegal. Hopefully I'm not the first to mention this, but this is bad advice. Excise taxes and tax stamps are specifically NOT tax deductible. This has been discussed at length before. On topic: I SBR'ed my guns because a lot of rifles weren't designed with 16" barrels, and selling them with such makes them look goofy and feel unwieldy. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 2:32:55 PM EDT
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I'm thinking of SBRing my current 14.5" pinned carbine and am curious what reasons most people have for doing this. For me, it's that the whole contraption will be too long with a suppressor on the end. I don't "need" a short barrel as this isn't an HD weapon and I don't kick doors for a living. What are your reasons? Keep your pinned & welded 14.5" as it is. Make new upper.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 8:20:08 PM EDT
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Why not. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:08:56 PM EDT
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i just do not like long guns. There I said it. I may one day eventually consider the possibility of thinking about the exploratory process with which one would have to embark upon to obtain a noise canceling device. But not right now. I have a m92 sbr that I have to use double pro with. You do not have fiends when you shoot it.
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:11:54 PM EDT
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Because chicks dig short barrels...
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:26:59 PM EDT
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I use my SBR for coyote control on the farm. Horses don't like loud noises, so I shoot suppressed. With a 10" barrel and suppressor my SBR weighs the same as it did with a 16" barrel and 12" forend. The REAL reason I did it, one big F U to the IRS! FYI, I deducted my whole rig from my taxes, all $5k of it, for pest control on my farm. Don't forget to deduct your tax stamps, you are not obligated to pay taxes twice, it's actually illegal. #boss I have a number of stamps...I don't know how me giving them $200 for each stamp, and that adds up, is a big FU.... |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 9:59:54 PM EDT
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Always wanted one.
MERICA!!! 11.5 is loud as fuck I need a can. |
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Posted: 8/29/2015 10:07:57 PM EDT
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Because California said no.
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Posted: 8/30/2015 9:29:00 AM EDT
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I have a number of stamps...I don't know how me giving them $200 for each stamp, and that adds up, is a big FU.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use my SBR for coyote control on the farm. Horses don't like loud noises, so I shoot suppressed. With a 10" barrel and suppressor my SBR weighs the same as it did with a 16" barrel and 12" forend. The REAL reason I did it, one big F U to the IRS! FYI, I deducted my whole rig from my taxes, all $5k of it, for pest control on my farm. Don't forget to deduct your tax stamps, you are not obligated to pay taxes twice, it's actually illegal. #boss I have a number of stamps...I don't know how me giving them $200 for each stamp, and that adds up, is a big FU.... He's saying it was a big FU to the IRS because he called his predator hunting rig a "business expense" and deducted all $5k of it. Again, it is a bad idea to deduct your tax stamps themselves. The tax code specifically states that excise taxes and tax stamps are not deductible, otherwise people could also deduct booze, cigarettes, gasoline, and a host of other taxed but voluntary purchases. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 8:47:32 PM EDT
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Because the 300 blk was designed around a 9" barrel.
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Posted: 8/30/2015 10:26:03 PM EDT
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I have several non-SBR AR's. The vast majority of my AO's defensive scenarios are 0-150 yards. SBR's are perfect for that distance, perfect for vehicle deployment, easy to handle, easier to conceal, fun to shoot, and IMO, 10.5" SBR's to 12" SBR's are the sweet spot, thus I have a few of those. My latest Form 1 is for an MP5......and SBRing it is simply the only acceptable configuration for that gun. Guns like the AUG, Tavor and other bullpups can also achieve similar lengths as SBR's but leave a lot to be desired compared to short AR's IMO. Same here... And because an MP5 without a stock is just a big pistol. The awesomeness comes with the A2 stock. That and a pile of 9mm and mags. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 12:28:36 PM EDT
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...because I can... Thats it, nothing more. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 12:33:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. Lighter 2. More maneuverable 3. cooler Except different order. Rule #1 is look cool. SBR + Suppressor and shorter than a 16" rig? Win. |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 12:32:17 AM EDT
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I am a small petite guy and I carried an M16 when I was in the army and felt that I was too small for it. The A2 stock was too long for me to properly use the sights and the barrel length would make me bang the rifle everywhere when slung onto my shoulders. To me it was a big weapon. Having all 3 of my lowers registered, they all feel ergonomic to me, plus helps reduce weight. Also I wanted to make an M4 clone with the proper 14.5" barrel.
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Posted: 9/7/2015 11:41:36 AM EDT
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...because I can... Thats it, nothing more they are awesome. FIFY |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 11:51:10 AM EDT
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Because reasons. I'm at 5 SBR stamps so far, various calibers. http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/ARFCOM%20stuff/DSCF1682.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/ARFCOM%20stuff/IMG_20150526_181651_432.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/2013-03-04_18-00-12_756.jpg Love that trunk gun. Very nice!!! |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 2:43:16 PM EDT
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Generally I prefer factory SBRs because no engraving is needed. The only form-1 SBRs I've registered were a Sig 556 converted to full 552 spec by AMA, a Sig 556 pistol, SwissArms/SIG 552 PD trade-in made into a title-1 rifle by adding a perm barrel extension, SwissArms/SIG 553 pistol, and FN PS90. The 556/552 and 556P were registered because at the time Sig didn't offer factory SBRs. The Swiss 552 was registered to bring it back to its proper factory configuration. The 553P was registered because again, Sig didn't offer factory SBRs at the time. And the PS90 was registered because FN did/does not offer factory SBRs. But in general I prefer a factory produced SBR. They retain value better than engraved form-1 SBRs. All of my AR15 SBRs are factory Colt.
As others have said, I own SBRs because I can and they are awesome. There is another important reason. The more gun enthusiasts who own SBRs the more common they become. The more common they become the better standing we have for protection under Heller. |
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Posted: 9/8/2015 11:21:05 AM EDT
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Main reason being the suppressor on the end would be too unwieldy with a barrel longer than 8", which is 16.5" total with the suppressor on it.
The final motivation though was my sig brace falling apart and then the ATF causing trouble with being allowed to shoulder it legally... rather than replace the brace I just spent the extra $100 on the stamp. The half pound it took off the rifle was worth the $100 anyway. Those braces are heavy. |
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Posted: 9/8/2015 8:59:48 PM EDT
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From what I see, almost everyone did it for the shorter OAL with a can. I, on the other hand, am holding strong on NOT becoming a stamp collector. (but they are so damn cool)  Buy a 4" Taccom upper and get back to us on that 
It's just too damn cute not to have a stock on it.
I didn't sweat a 14.5" bbl vs. a 16" bbl; not worth it to me. I was like, wth hell do I need a SBR for? Got into the suppressor game and it's like "It'd be nice if this thing was shorter" Then the 300 Blackout came out; short and sweet. BRD, suppressors, SBRs; this website is a bad influence. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 5:56:10 PM EDT
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Because Merica!
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Posted: 9/13/2015 6:21:33 PM EDT
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Just for the fun of it, I suppose. To have a new range toy.
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Posted: 9/13/2015 6:37:46 PM EDT
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I did my first one for the fun of owning and shooting a SBR.
One of the perks of a SBR in PA, it is classed as a firearm and not a rifle therefore it can be carried loaded on your person or in a vehicle with a ccw permit even during a state of emergency. |
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Posted: 9/14/2015 12:51:56 AM EDT
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Because I wanted something shorter to attach my 762-SDN-6 to.
Because I can. Because my friends in CA can't
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Posted: 9/16/2015 9:54:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Cause SBRs are badass.
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Posted: 9/26/2015 5:33:59 PM EDT
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Can someone explain to me how a 10.5" barrel with a suppressor is shorter than a 14.5 or even 16" barrel? I thought most suppressors are longer than 4". And how much do they weigh? Is it really lighter than an M4ger without a can?
Yeah, without the can I can see it being shorter and lighter, but I don't even want to fire one without a can. A 14.5 is loud enough on it's own. Having said that, I do like the idea of them, I just don't see the actual facts of the matter saying they are lighter and shorter WITH a can. . |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 5:46:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can someone explain to me how a 10.5" barrel with a suppressor is shorter than a 14.5 or even 16" barrel? I thought most suppressors are longer than 4". And how much do they weigh? Is it really lighter than an M4ger without a can? Yeah, without the can I can see it being shorter and lighter, but I don't even want to fire one without a can. A 14.5 is loud enough on it's own. Having said that, I do like the idea of them, I just don't see the actual facts of the matter saying they are lighter and shorter WITH a can. . |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 5:58:37 PM EDT
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Gotcha. I guess I misread what people were saying.
I know that I even notice a difference between a 16 and 14.5. The 16 being easier on the ears with ear protection on. I'm curious as to the decibel difference between a 10.5 with a can and a 16"er. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 6:26:50 PM EDT
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Mostly because I damn can. I'm gonna suppress it one day too!
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Posted: 9/27/2015 9:29:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2015 8:08:17 PM EDT
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Gotcha. I guess I misread what people were saying. I know that I even notice a difference between a 16 and 14.5. The 16 being easier on the ears with ear protection on. I'm curious as to the decibel difference between a 10.5 with a can and a 16"er. I don't know about decibels, but I've heard it said that a suppressed SBR is about as loud as an unsuppressed .22lr rifle. I'd imagine that varies though. I have a 22" .22lr rifle that is totally hearing safe (as far as I can tell) but I'm not sure that a suppressed 5.56 would be that quiet. |
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Posted: 9/29/2015 11:58:08 PM EDT
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I don't know about decibels, but I've heard it said that a suppressed SBR is about as loud as an unsuppressed .22lr rifle. I'd imagine that varies though. I have a 22" .22lr rifle that is totally hearing safe (as far as I can tell) but I'm not sure that a suppressed 5.56 would be that quiet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gotcha. I guess I misread what people were saying. I know that I even notice a difference between a 16 and 14.5. The 16 being easier on the ears with ear protection on. I'm curious as to the decibel difference between a 10.5 with a can and a 16"er. I don't know about decibels, but I've heard it said that a suppressed SBR is about as loud as an unsuppressed .22lr rifle. I'd imagine that varies though. I have a 22" .22lr rifle that is totally hearing safe (as far as I can tell) but I'm not sure that a suppressed 5.56 would be that quiet. I've heard the same thing. But then my ears ring all the time and I have a hard time hearing when there is background noise. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 9:14:31 AM EDT
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Did mine in 08
Thought they looked cool. I was 18 at the time I chose wisely |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 12:01:02 PM EDT
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Several reasons.
1: I wanted a stamp, but didn't want an AOW. SBR was the cheapest way to get in. Buy stamp, buy 10.5 barrel. Remove and replace 16.0 barrel. 2: I think ARs look way cooler with short barrels. 3: I like turning heads. 10.5" barrel with a Lantac turns a lot of heads when I crack off a few rounds. 
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Posted: 9/30/2015 3:32:14 PM EDT
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Because:
1. I can. 2. SBR's are cool. 3. In PA SBR's fall under my CCW and can be loaded in a vehicle where a normal 16" rifle cannot. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 9:18:31 PM EDT
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Because: 1. I can. 2. SBR's are cool. 3. In PA SBR's fall under my CCW and can be loaded in a vehicle where a normal 16" rifle cannot. It would be nice if that held true in NYS as well |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 9:19:56 PM EDT
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...because I can... Thats it, nothing more. FPNI. I have an 11.5" SBR and a Colt 14.5" M4 upper as well. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 9:21:03 PM EDT
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 I would've loved this back when I still had my 350Z. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 11:08:47 AM EDT
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Reason 1 because I want to and can
Reason 2 because a suppressor on a 16" is too much Reason 3 because from time to time I do kick doors in for a living |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:08:17 PM EDT
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Homestead defence with and without the use of suppressors.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:26:21 PM EDT
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because 10.5>ALL!!!!! Trust me try one they should all be that length.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 11:38:07 PM EDT
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because the voices in my head told me too!
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