PDW stocks? Other than troy?

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Posted: 4/23/2015 8:26:29 PM EDT

Whats out there?

I dont care to send business to Troy, plus, they seem overpriced.

Are there any other options for a collapsible MP / PDW style stock?

Ive seen the NEA, Troy and MVB.

Which is the better model, and are there any more options?

Posted: 4/24/2015 12:04:34 AM EDT

[#1]

LWRC; 2 versions.

Posted: 4/24/2015 2:26:29 AM EDT

[#2]

MVB Arc stock . Best IMO.

Uses standard BCG.

Posted: 4/24/2015 12:23:39 PM EDT

[#3]

I really like my LWRC UCIW stock set. It's about two inches shortly than a sopmod and is priced very well compared to some of the other compact stocks on the market.

Posted: 4/24/2015 12:53:54 PM EDT

[#4]

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Whats out there?

I dont care to send business to Troy, plus, they seem overpriced.

Are there any other options for a collapsible MP / PDW style stock?

Ive seen the NEA, Troy and MVB.

Which is the better model, and are there any more options?

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Those are the three that are 'out' on the market, but I'm sure more are coming as it's a new niche.

Define better - the Troy and NEA are kissing cousins with minor differences. I picked the Troy, as I liked the multi-positions, locking closed and easier to open/close setup.

The MVB is as expensive as the Troy (400 + BCG vs 500 all in) and is 3/4" longer.

The LWRC UCIW is a better way to take length off a rifle, has a real cheek weld and better feel on the shoulder. It also costs no more than a Magpul buffer/tube/spring/stock combo.

Drawback to the UCIW - doesn't look 'different' and is about 2" longer than the Troy/Nea and 1.25" longer than the MVB. Unless you need a rifle collapsed under 20" long (with a 7.5" barrel) I'd pick the UCIW.

(I have both a UCIW setup and a troy PDW built)

Posted: 4/24/2015 6:13:40 PM EDT

[#5]

I dont think the troy can be used with 9mm can it?

Not that i have to have 9mm as I have an MP5 clone and a CZ scorpion.....

Posted: 4/24/2015 7:10:09 PM EDT

[#6]

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I dont think the troy can be used with 9mm can it?

Not that i have to have 9mm as I have an MP5 clone and a CZ scorpion.....

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Not at this time, the proprietary carrier on the troy and nea isn't 9MM friendly.

Posted: 4/24/2015 9:07:56 PM EDT

[#7]

LWRC.

I love me some SOPMOD, but LWRC stocks are light and compact. Plus they are really reasonably priced compared to other options.

Posted: 4/24/2015 11:36:04 PM EDT

[#8]

LWRC is what you want. Light and compact.

Posted: 4/25/2015 4:46:59 PM EDT

[#9]

LWRC UCIW FTW

Posted: 4/27/2015 1:27:51 PM EDT

[#10]

FWIW, LWRCI Ultra compact is what I use. It's certainly shorter than regular telescoping stocks, without being a really crappy stock. Not impressed with the PDW type stocks to include LWRCI's stock - as stocks. Shorter and handier when closed, but terrible for actual use.

Posted: 4/27/2015 1:38:30 PM EDT

[#11]

Here is a UCIW next to a standard M4 stock for comparison:

As you can see I like the UCIW pretty well:

From top to bottom; 7" AR 5.7, 7.5" 7.62x39, 10" 5.56 with suppressor.

Posted: 4/27/2015 2:33:56 PM EDT

[#12]

Took these a while ago... UCIW is a better 'stock' option, but the PDW stocks are unique, and can lead to SHORT SBRS.

UCIW vs STR

STR vs PDW

UCIW vs PDW

And for scale... if I was willing to put an A2 on the 7.5" it would probably be 20.3" or so collapsed

Posted: 4/27/2015 3:33:52 PM EDT

[#13]

Those pictures are great thanks for posting.
It really makes me want a pdw.

Im assuming if you have a good running upper reliability isn't affected?

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Took these a while ago... UCIW is a better 'stock' option, but the PDW stocks are unique, and can lead to SHORT SBRS.

UCIW vs STR

http://i.imgur.com/gJXhZeel.jpg

STR vs PDW

http://i.imgur.com/MS8Ol2Ml.jpg

UCIW vs PDW

http://i.imgur.com/oowpRhrl.jpg

And for scale... if I was willing to put an A2 on the 7.5" it would probably be 20.3" or so collapsed

http://i.imgur.com/EweTccIl.jpg

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Posted: 4/27/2015 4:06:32 PM EDT

[#14]

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Those pictures are great thanks for posting.
It really makes me want a pdw.

Im assuming if you have a good running upper reliability isn't affected?

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As long as it's a DI upper and you're willing to swap the bolt carrier, I don't see why it would impact reliability. I've seen video of a PDW stock on a FA receiver, which looked as fun as every other full-auto video.

Posted: 5/5/2015 4:22:33 PM EDT

[#15]

6.5 inch Oly barrel, 18 inches overall without a flash hider :):)

Posted: 5/5/2015 4:30:58 PM EDT

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http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s89/parkernt/20150328_104805_zpsd2wmyotw.jpg

6.5 inch Oly barrel, 18 inches overall without a flash hider :):)

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Very nice, I'm sure that makes some nice fireballs!

Posted: 5/14/2015 7:23:02 AM EDT

[#17]

A friend and I are designing a stock similar to the Troy and NEA stock, but it will not require a special BCG. Once we are past the prototype state I will post some pictures up.

Posted: 5/14/2015 7:51:44 AM EDT

[#18]

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<a href="http://s150.photobucket.com/user/parkernt/media/20150328_104805_zpsd2wmyotw.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s89/parkernt/20150328_104805_zpsd2wmyotw.jpg</a>

6.5 inch Oly barrel, 18 inches overall without a flash hider :):)

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I can only imagine the percussion and flames with that rifle....

Posted: 5/21/2015 12:19:54 PM EDT

[#19]

DIfferent Upper, stock and optics, but same barrel and thread protector. This is a small blast from 223, green tip will make the grass turn brown after several shots lol!

Posted: 5/23/2015 9:06:46 PM EDT

[#20]

I'm in the same boat, but after seeing some pictures I think I'll be going with the PDW and try and find a barrel in the 9"-10" range if such a thing exists.

Posted: 5/23/2015 11:25:19 PM EDT

[#21]

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I'm in the same boat, but after seeing some pictures I think I'll be going with the PDW and try and find a barrel in the 9"-10" range if such a thing exists.

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a 9" 5.56 barrel is hard to come by , around 10" there are a few choices. there have been alot of colt 10.3" barrels in the EE lately.

noveske also makes the navy barrel in 5.56 , it's an 8.5" barrel.

here's a 9" barrel with an NEA stocked lower

Posted: 6/5/2015 6:44:23 PM EDT

[#22]

I may have changed my mind. The MVB ARC stock looks slick. I don't mind s little extra length (that's what she said) if it means better cheek weld. Also being able to use an factory BCG is a plus along with being able to fire while collapsed.

Posted: 6/5/2015 9:16:54 PM EDT

[#23]

How would the LWRC UCIW work on a PWS piston SBR? If at all?

Posted: 6/5/2015 9:45:17 PM EDT

[#24]

Does anyone have a pic of the NEA stock fully extended next to a 6 position stock?

Posted: 6/6/2015 4:53:42 AM EDT

[#25]

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A friend and I are designing a stock similar to the Troy and NEA stock, but it will not require a special BCG. Once we are past the prototype state I will post some pictures up.

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You do know that this has already made ?

Posted: 6/6/2015 10:52:34 AM EDT

[#26]

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Does anyone have a pic of the NEA stock fully extended next to a 6 position stock?

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Yep - about a 12" LOP (just shy)

Album with STR/PDW/UCIW

Stock Album

The only update to that album - if you use the spendy LWRC QD attachment, it will work with the UCIW.

Posted: 6/6/2015 7:26:13 PM EDT

[#27]

Awesome... Thanks. The album is a great reference.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - PDW stocks? Other than troy?

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