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Link Posted: 4/14/2015 9:14:02 PM EDT
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Thanks that helps a lot. I apologize if this has been covered numerous times, but what more would I need to do if I wanted to file it as a trust and use the Efile version? Does it cost more than the standard $200?
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For someone who is filing a Form 1 as an individual not in a trust...how long can I expect to wait? And is there anyway of knowing that the ATF has received my Form and payment? Sorry guys, this is my first one.

I think they're running 6+ months still. It'll have to be a paper form, as you can't use EForms.

Write a check. When it clears (look for the $200, not the check number), you'll know they're working on it. You could also send it with a tracking number so you know when it's delivered.

nfatracker.com will give you an idea of the timeframes...just look for F1s that have a "no" under eFiled.


Thanks that helps a lot. I apologize if this has been covered numerous times, but what more would I need to do if I wanted to file it as a trust and use the Efile version? Does it cost more than the standard $200?


Cost is the same, you just have to have a trust, which is the way to go anyway. I did my trust with quicken willmaker. Super easy.
Link Posted: 4/14/2015 11:12:01 PM EDT
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Well, just filed for 2 SBRs last night. Getting into the NFA game for the first time.

But how long does it take them to charge the $200 to your credit card?
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EFiled? Immediately.

Paper filed with the new form that lets you pay by CC? Dunno...never seen anybody post their experience.
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 12:21:37 PM EDT
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Update: posted before that I filed 2/10 Form1 eForm Trust.  Just was approved today, 4/15.  Notified by email and received a PDF copy of the stamp.

To any of the first-time eform filers: there was no indication of progress at all on the gov website until the approval email was received.  The constant checking every day was wasted effort.

sleestak
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 1:12:09 PM EDT
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Am I the only 2/10 not approved yet... Any other 10s out there

finally came back 4/16
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 1:28:17 PM EDT
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I'm sure you'll hear something really soon.

 





The last two I got back were submitted the same day buy approved 2 days apart.












 
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 2:12:44 PM EDT
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Dont feel alone I am riding in the same boat as you are.....2/10 as well.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 2:26:12 PM EDT
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Update: posted before that I filed 2/10 Form1 eForm Trust.  Just was approved today, 4/15.  Notified by email and received a PDF copy of the stamp.

To any of the first-time eform filers: there was no indication of progress at all on the gov website until the approval email was received.  The constant checking every day was wasted effort.

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Correct. There are no other stages between Submitted/In Process and either Approved or Disapproved.

The reason most people log in to check is because the email notifications don't always come. I had six approved this week, but only got five emails. I've had two others that never got an email...but four others that did.
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 6:54:39 PM EDT
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Efiled 2/11 approved April 15

63 days.

FYI I received an email.

David W.
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 8:27:13 PM EDT
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efiled 3/14 and have been locked out of my account since (yes I've called and emailed they never get it unlocked)
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 8:52:40 PM EDT
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Just submitted my first efile (SBRing a KAC factory SBR lower)




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Approval 1 day after the next batch of 11.5" BCM uppers go out of stock  


 
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 9:22:24 PM EDT
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Just submitted my first efile (SBRing a KAC factory SBR lower)

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You can always make a pistol NOW.
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 9:59:34 PM EDT
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efiled 3/14 and have been locked out of my account since (yes I've called and emailed they never get it unlocked)
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I got locked out of mine. Then I just clicked on the "forgot password" link and it sent a link to my email and let me reset the password.
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 10:50:36 PM EDT
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my security question answer was worded in such a manner i had to write it out different ways for about 3 minutes before i got the right one. But I'm in now and i can finally get my fix of checking this page even though it will be weeks before it changes
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 12:53:31 AM EDT
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I'm mailing my form 1 in as an individual and building a SBR 300 blackout....what exactly can I put in the caliber portion of the form so that it doesn't get rejected? Seems like most of my internet searches come up with "300 BLK" will work. Any personal experience?
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 1:51:25 AM EDT
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Can you clarify what that means?
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 1:51:59 AM EDT
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You can always make a pistol NOW.
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Just submitted my first efile (SBRing a KAC factory SBR lower)

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Approval 1 day after the next batch of 11.5" BCM uppers go out of stock  
 


You can always make a pistol NOW.


Not if the lower was first built as a rifle.
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 7:50:23 AM EDT
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Can you clarify what that means?
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Just submitted my first efile (SBRing a KAC factory SBR lower)



My prediction:

Approval 1 day after the next batch of 11.5" BCM uppers go out of stock  

 




Can you clarify what that means?




 
KAC lower that came from the factory as a 14.5" carbine & has "KAC SBR" engraved & filled. Original buyer had a muzzle device pinned and the rifle removed from the registry.




I talked to 2 ATF agents and they didn't see how my (re-)making it an SBR would violate anything, but they were field agents not Form 1 approvers...




Since it was born a rifle it can't be a pistol, at least now it can't since I've gone and put this info on the internet. I do however, have a nearly complete STT-15 lower that I was thinking of selling but could build into a pistol as a surrogate until my stamp comes in.



Link Posted: 4/16/2015 7:53:46 AM EDT
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And you bought the KAC lower as a GCA firearm, with no F4 transfer...right?

You can definitely make an SBR with it on a Form 1, but it will have to be engraved again with your info. The previous engraving won't matter.

(You may very well know this already...just pointing it out to anybody following the discussion)
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 9:25:32 AM EDT
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I'm mailing my form 1 in as an individual and building a SBR 300 blackout....what exactly can I put in the caliber portion of the form so that it doesn't get rejected? Seems like most of my internet searches come up with "300 BLK" will work. Any personal experience?
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From what I've found - they just want "300"...

BigWaylon's guide to E-File



Bob S.

Link Posted: 4/16/2015 9:42:05 AM EDT
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For paper, I think they're a little more flexible. But...the safe bet it simply "300" as posted above.

My paper F1 (filed fall of '13, approved May '14) has 300 Blackout.
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 10:44:06 AM EDT
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  KAC lower that came from the factory as a 14.5" carbine & has "KAC SBR" engraved & filled. Original buyer had a muzzle device pinned and the rifle removed from the registry.


I talked to 2 ATF agents and they didn't see how my (re-)making it an SBR would violate anything, but they were field agents not Form 1 approvers...


Since it was born a rifle it can't be a pistol, at least now it can't since I've gone and put this info on the internet. I do however, have a nearly complete STT-15 lower that I was thinking of selling but could build into a pistol as a surrogate until my stamp comes in.


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Just submitted my first efile (SBRing a KAC factory SBR lower)

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Approval 1 day after the next batch of 11.5" BCM uppers go out of stock  
 


Can you clarify what that means?

  KAC lower that came from the factory as a 14.5" carbine & has "KAC SBR" engraved & filled. Original buyer had a muzzle device pinned and the rifle removed from the registry.


I talked to 2 ATF agents and they didn't see how my (re-)making it an SBR would violate anything, but they were field agents not Form 1 approvers...


Since it was born a rifle it can't be a pistol, at least now it can't since I've gone and put this info on the internet. I do however, have a nearly complete STT-15 lower that I was thinking of selling but could build into a pistol as a surrogate until my stamp comes in.




Thank you for the explanation!
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 11:27:29 AM EDT
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I am still waiting on mine from 2/10 as well.
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eFiled 2 on 2/13/15 and nothing yet.

Filed another 3/15/15 and I have a feeling ill be waiting even longer than the first two....

These 3 are my first SBR's I've efiled. Will they notify you via email that they are approved/disapproved or do I have to keep checking their website daily? Ok, you caught me, I check twice daily
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2 Approved today 4/16/15

Still waiting on my 3rd.
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 1:36:18 PM EDT
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Just got mine from 2/10.
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lordy.... they're taking longer and longer. When they get the efile program fixed and they're efiling form 4's again they're going to be totally overwhelmed and in the weeds....
Link Posted: 4/16/2015 6:46:46 PM EDT
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I'm mailing my form 1 in as an individual and building a SBR 300 blackout....what exactly can I put in the caliber portion of the form so that it doesn't get rejected? Seems like most of my internet searches come up with "300 BLK" will work. Any personal experience?




From what I've found - they just want "300"...



BigWaylon's guide to E-File



http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/thegreghorton/EFORMS/2E731681-2C6E-453B-B60C-0939959FA365_zpstqfbkgpk.jpg



Bob S.



Thanks for the answers. However can we refrain from posting such questions in an un-related topic?

 
P.S. correct answer is 300
Link Posted: 4/17/2015 4:30:54 PM EDT
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2 Approved today 4/16/15

Still waiting on my 3rd.
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eFiled 2 on 2/13/15 and nothing yet.

Filed another 3/15/15 and I have a feeling ill be waiting even longer than the first two....

These 3 are my first SBR's I've efiled. Will they notify you via email that they are approved/disapproved or do I have to keep checking their website daily? Ok, you caught me, I check twice daily



2 Approved today 4/16/15

Still waiting on my 3rd.


Good to see some 2/13 forms approved. I filed 2/21, getting close!
Link Posted: 4/17/2015 8:28:30 PM EDT
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60 days exactly  on  my Draco. I submitted on Feb 9th using a draft I created on January 1. I heard rumors that trick worked, but sadly it doesn't.
Link Posted: 4/17/2015 11:17:48 PM EDT
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Im still waiting on my 2/12... And not all too thrilled to hear that people are getting their 2/13's approved while I languish in agony!
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 12:43:48 AM EDT
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2/10 approved now waiting on 2/20
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 12:43:25 PM EDT
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Form 1 SBR
Filed: 2/12
Approved: 4/18

No email received yet.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 12:45:09 PM EDT
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How did you find out you were approved without an email? Can you just log in and check status on your eforms account?
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 1:40:47 PM EDT
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Its good to see that they're still processing 2/12's. I was worried  that they just smooth passed me up!
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 2:23:31 PM EDT
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How did you find out you were approved without an email? Can you just log in and check status on your eforms account?
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Form 1 SBR
Filed: 2/12
Approved: 4/18

No email received yet.


How did you find out you were approved without an email? Can you just log in and check status on your eforms account?



Correct. Logged in when I woke up, no approval. Checked it again a few hours later and it was approved.
Link Posted: 4/19/2015 7:58:18 PM EDT
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Form 1 SBR
Efile
2/13 submission
4/16 Approved
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Somebody give me the number so I can call them tomorrow. They smooth passed me up...

Edit: i just got disapproved on 4/20 but when I log on I can't find any notation of what I did wrong or how to fix it. Again, I'll be calling them today.

EDIT # 2: ok the notation of the problem was on an attached form... And it wasnt the ATF's fault. I put my name in the blank where the trust name goes.

Do I have to refile a whole new application now? Like re-download my trust documents and everything?
Link Posted: 4/20/2015 6:26:02 PM EDT
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So, what dates are they going though today?
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 2:27:06 PM EDT
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I Efiled  2/16/15..... Still waiting
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Hey.  I Efiled 2/16/15 too.  Wanna race?
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 4:09:56 PM EDT
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And....they're off!  (Hurry up and wait)
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1704... nothing.


 
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  1704... nothing.

 
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And....they're off!  (Hurry up and wait)


  1704... nothing.

 
2/16 as well.

 
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 5:16:42 PM EDT
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e-filed 2-13-2015 approved 4-21-2015....watermark
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Link Posted: 4/21/2015 7:33:45 PM EDT
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Filed 2: 2/16
Both approved: 4/19
Email received on Sunday, no draft watermark.
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Quick question... I am waiting on my first which I efiled on 2/17.

What is the watermark? Can you build the SBR as soon as you get approval or do you need to wait for the watermark?
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:46:58 PM EDT
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Received mine today, 2/13---4/21
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Quick question... I am waiting on my first which I efiled on 2/17.

What is the watermark? Can you build the SBR as soon as you get approval or do you need to wait for the watermark?
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Email received on Sunday, no draft watermark.


Quick question... I am waiting on my first which I efiled on 2/17.

What is the watermark? Can you build the SBR as soon as you get approval or do you need to wait for the watermark?

the watermark will have "draft" diagonally across the form in the e-mail you receive.  a pic on this thread  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/410897_My_efiled_form_1_was_approved_in_3_months.html&page=314
Link Posted: 4/22/2015 2:07:34 AM EDT
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2/14 submitted - 4/20 approved

Got another I'm waiting on that was submitted 2/16.  I'm guessing it'll be approved 4/23.
Link Posted: 4/22/2015 7:29:54 AM EDT
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Submitted 2/13
Approved 4/21 at 10:20 PM!  Ted burns the midnight oil!
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