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Posted: 11/14/2014 7:09:08 PM EDT
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Send whichever barrel you choose to ADCO for dimpling.
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Posted: 11/14/2014 11:49:19 PM EDT
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Did you mean SBR? As in Short Barreled Rifle?
100% agree on ADCO. |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 12:12:28 AM EDT
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no melonite or any other coating like it. Its too hard to work on and dulls tooling so most wont do it. Get a nice stainless barrel or something of similar hardness.
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Posted: 11/15/2014 3:12:34 AM EDT
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Ah, yes i did mean SBR, Thanks for the advice. I'll have to look into that, I was looking online for a place that sold them already dimpled. I know KAC has a model with dimpled barrel. Any advice on trigger or buffer system? I'm planning on using a Sig arm brace so its not really gonna be a SBR
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Posted: 11/15/2014 11:38:27 AM EDT
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I run a KAK tube and a SB15 brace on a couple of pistols.
The buffers just depends on the upper, some just seem to like different weights. Triggers I like the ALG ACT ($65) for its price it can't be beat. I also run a SDE and a SD3G Geissele. I like the flat face more than conventional triggers. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 9:00:25 AM EDT
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I had ADCO recently dimple and refinish my barrel, it came out great!
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Posted: 11/16/2014 10:09:03 AM EDT
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I don't have any numbers handy, but the crux of the problem is that you have to buy a heavier, stainless steel barrel to dimple in the first place. On balance, an undimpled CL barrel might serve you better, especially at 10.5".
And I love ADCO, but if you're going the dimple route - it definitely looks cool - also consider Marvin Pitts of Nefarious Arms. He uses, IMO, a cooler looking dimple pattern in his work. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 3:13:22 PM EDT
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That dimple barrel looks sick! But I did email ADCO and they did say it would be best to have a heavy barrel AO its gonna cost a bit plus end up heavier anyway. So I think I'm gonna skip that. Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm thinking about buying Sig brace with the KAK buffer tube kit, geiselle SD-C trigger, KNS trigger pins, and a BAD ASS safety. Already have the upper, lower, Aim NiB bolt, BCM gunfighter charging handle, and a Eotech 512. Just need to figure out a barrel and handguard.
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Posted: 11/16/2014 3:44:05 PM EDT
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That dimple barrel looks sick! But I did email ADCO and they did say it would be best to have a heavy barrel AO its gonna cost a bit plus end up heavier anyway. So I think I'm gonna skip that. Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm thinking about buying Sig brace with the KAK buffer tube kit, geiselle SD-C trigger, KNS trigger pins, and a BAD ASS safety. Already have the upper, lower, Aim NiB bolt, BCM gunfighter charging handle, and a Eotech 512. Just need to figure out a barrel and handguard. Geissele doesn't recommend the Knights pins. |
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Posted: 11/16/2014 7:00:28 PM EDT
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IMHO, adco dimpling looks like crap. You want the dimpling from Marvin at nefarious arms, especially if you already like KAC.
Edit: he can also do it on thinner profile barrels, you don't have to have a heavy barrel. He's done two of mine 
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Posted: 11/16/2014 11:45:08 PM EDT
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Marvin Pitts is the way to go, ADCO's barrel dimpling looks cheap, which would match their service.
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Posted: 11/26/2014 10:26:14 PM EDT
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Where did you hear Geiselle doesn't recommend the KNS pins?
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Posted: 11/27/2014 12:11:59 AM EDT
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Where did you hear Geiselle doesn't recommend the KNS pins? Straight from Geissele |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 12:14:36 AM EDT
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Where did you hear Geiselle doesn't recommend the KNS pins? Straight from Geissele This is true. Geissele had posted in a thread I created once about this question. The Geissele pin tolerance spec is WAY WAY WAY tighter than KNS. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 12:16:15 AM EDT
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IMHO, adco dimpling looks like crap. You want the dimpling from Marvin at nefarious arms, especially if you already like KAC. Edit: he can also do it on thinner profile barrels, you don't have to have a heavy barrel. He's done two of mine http://imageshack.com/a/img534/45/k3zl.jpg Marvin's Prices aren't that bad either and IMHO his dimpling looks far superior. And I personally send all my work to ADCO. But if I had to choose dimpling I would say Marvin Pitts! Just google him, he has a Facebook page for his shop. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 12:31:15 AM EDT
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IMHO, adco dimpling looks like crap. You want the dimpling from Marvin at nefarious arms, especially if you already like KAC. Edit: he can also do it on thinner profile barrels, you don't have to have a heavy barrel. He's done two of mine http://imageshack.com/a/img534/45/k3zl.jpg How much does Marvin charge for dimpling like this??? |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:54:15 AM EDT
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Thanks for the heads up. I was just about to order both. KNS sells Geissele triggers too.
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:56:34 AM EDT
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Yeah. That looks nice. How much?
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:58:25 AM EDT
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Yeah. That looks nice. How much?
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:01:45 PM EDT
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Geissele doesn't recommend the Knights pins. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That dimple barrel looks sick! But I did email ADCO and they did say it would be best to have a heavy barrel AO its gonna cost a bit plus end up heavier anyway. So I think I'm gonna skip that. Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm thinking about buying Sig brace with the KAK buffer tube kit, geiselle SD-C trigger, KNS trigger pins, and a BAD ASS safety. Already have the upper, lower, Aim NiB bolt, BCM gunfighter charging handle, and a Eotech 512. Just need to figure out a barrel and handguard. Geissele doesn't recommend the Knights pins. I think autocorrect got you - Geissele doesn't recommend Kns pins. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 1:05:36 PM EDT
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This is true. Geissele had posted in a thread I created once about this question. The Geissele pin tolerance spec is WAY WAY WAY tighter than KNS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where did you hear Geiselle doesn't recommend the KNS pins? Straight from Geissele This is true. Geissele had posted in a thread I created once about this question. The Geissele pin tolerance spec is WAY WAY WAY tighter than KNS. And I think Geissele triggers use a different pin retention system than mil spec triggers so the kns pins mess that up as well. With that being said, my dumb ass used kns pins on 3 of my Geissele triggers for years before I figured out you weren't supposed to. They all worked and still work fine. I still use kns pins on those because I think the retention spring thing in the hammer is probably worn out at this point. |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 2:04:05 PM EDT
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I think autocorrect got you - Geissele doesn't recommend Kns pins. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That dimple barrel looks sick! But I did email ADCO and they did say it would be best to have a heavy barrel AO its gonna cost a bit plus end up heavier anyway. So I think I'm gonna skip that. Thanks for the advice everyone. I'm thinking about buying Sig brace with the KAK buffer tube kit, geiselle SD-C trigger, KNS trigger pins, and a BAD ASS safety. Already have the upper, lower, Aim NiB bolt, BCM gunfighter charging handle, and a Eotech 512. Just need to figure out a barrel and handguard. Geissele doesn't recommend the Knights pins. I think autocorrect got you - Geissele doesn't recommend Kns pins. Ipad autoincorrect |
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Posted: 11/27/2014 2:54:52 PM EDT
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Oh I got it. I was just saying I was gonna order both until you said they don't reccomend the KNS pins. I sent Geissele a email asking what was the deal and what they suggest. I might end up getting a different trigger. They are super expensive anyway.
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Posted: 11/27/2014 4:19:21 PM EDT
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Oh I got it. I was just saying I was gonna order both until you said they don't reccomend the KNS pins. I sent Geissele a email asking what was the deal and what they suggest. I might end up getting a different trigger. They are super expensive anyway. They are well worth the money. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 4:48:56 PM EDT
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They are well worth the money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh I got it. I was just saying I was gonna order both until you said they don't reccomend the KNS pins. I sent Geissele a email asking what was the deal and what they suggest. I might end up getting a different trigger. They are super expensive anyway. They are well worth the money. Yup. Best upgrade to date. Smoother than butter on a hot pan. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:18:16 PM EDT
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Ah, yes i did mean SBR, Thanks for the advice. I'll have to look into that, I was looking online for a place that sold them already dimpled. I know KAC has a model with dimpled barrel. Any advice on trigger or buffer system? I'm planning on using a Sig arm brace so its not really gonna be a SBR The pistol forum is literally full of all this SigBrace stuff, those boys will be overjoyed to fill you with all kinds of information. Including barrels and KNS pins. |
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Posted: 11/30/2014 8:32:46 AM EDT
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Yup. Best upgrade to date. Smoother than butter on a hot pan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh I got it. I was just saying I was gonna order both until you said they don't reccomend the KNS pins. I sent Geissele a email asking what was the deal and what they suggest. I might end up getting a different trigger. They are super expensive anyway. They are well worth the money. Yup. Best upgrade to date. Smoother than butter on a hot pan. I agree they are expensive but worth every penny. The trigger is not an area to cheap out on. |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 3:17:45 PM EDT
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Emailed Geissele about the pins. Here is what they said:
The Geissele pins are precision ground and hardened to our specs. We recommend using our pins because we have found that other pins are not properly sized for our triggers and can be made out of a softer metal which may pull up burrs during installation causing the trigger to not perform as designed. If our pins are installed properly and the hammer spring is in the right position, there will not be an issue of the pins walking out of the lower receiver. So is there any trigger that would be a better value/$ ? If not I think I'll suck it up and get the SD/C. Its only $210 on sale now! |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 3:47:37 PM EDT
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Emailed Geissele about the pins. Here is what they said: The Geissele pins are precision ground and hardened to our specs. We recommend using our pins because we have found that other pins are not properly sized for our triggers and can be made out of a softer metal which may pull up burrs during installation causing the trigger to not perform as designed. If our pins are installed properly and the hammer spring is in the right position, there will not be an issue of the pins walking out of the lower receiver. So is there any trigger that would be a better value/$ ? If not I think I'll suck it up and get the SD/C. Its only $210 on sale now! The Wilson Combats good and are very nice from what I hear, but I run Geissele, it's VERY nice. |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 3:56:40 PM EDT
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Yeah. That looks nice. How much? can't remember, i think between 125 and 200 |
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Posted: 12/2/2014 2:37:41 AM EDT
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Just sent a email to Marvin. Them barrels look great! Thanks for the recommendation.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 4:02:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IMHO, adco dimpling looks like crap. You want the dimpling from Marvin at nefarious arms, especially if you already like KAC. Edit: he can also do it on thinner profile barrels, you don't have to have a heavy barrel. He's done two of mine http://imageshack.com/a/img534/45/k3zl.jpg This x1000 ADCO dimpling looks like garbage to me. Marvin is the way to go. |
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