Got my trust done and want to take advantage of the quick turnaround time of the e-filed Form 1's before the ATF changes the rules for trusts.  I can't decide what route to go and could use some opinions.  I currently have a Noveske N4 with 14.5" barrel (non-NFA) for my general purpose carbine.  I'm thinking about getting a 10.5", because if I'm going through the trouble of getting an NFA item, I want it to be noticeably shorter than what I already have.  If I had to start over, I'd probably consider a 10.5" or 11.5" and a 16".  

Here are the options that I am mulling over:

1.  Form 1 my Noveske receiver.  Buy a complete 10.5" upper.
2.  Form 1 my Noveske receiver.  Send the barrel to Adco, and have it cut down to 10.5"-11.5".  Buy a new 16" upper (maybe- I'll probably only want to ever shoot the SBR).
3.  Form 1 my Noveske receiver.  Sell the Noveske upper, and buy 2 new uppers (an SBR and a 16").

I know that these posts are impossible to answer; just wanted to kick around some ideas with like-minded folks.

My vote is number 1.  Why do you want to change the 14.5" to a 16"?  I think the 14.5" is a better option.

How about:



1. Decide if you're going with 10.5 or 11.5" soonest.

2. File Form 1 for one of those immediately.

3. Don't buy another 16" barrel ever.

4. Decide if the Noveske shoots well enough to leave alone, and if not, cut it. (Adco)

5. Buy additional SBR uppers in multiple calibers...

All that matters right now is that you have the lower you are going to SBR; the paperwork has nothing to do with the upper/barrel length.

You can take as long as you'd like (up to forever) to decide on a barrel length.

This. Start the eform now. The ATF just requires you to pick one for the point of the form. Just assume 10.5" is what you're building and submit it. If you decide to do something else you can change it. You are not required to notify the ATF if you change the barrel length.

N4 Light is a carbine length gas system.  Mine has a fixed front sight and a Centurion cut-out rail (probably the same set-up that I would go with on a 10.5".  Just cutting it down and opening the port would make a sweet SBR, but I think that you guys have convinced me to buy or build a 10.5" and keep the Noveske.  How is this for a plan:

1. E file a form 1 for my Noveske receiver.
2. Buy the Adco CQB basic (DD 10.3" barrel, fixed front sight, no handguard) for $420.
3. Move the Centurion cut-out rail from the Noveske to the sbr.
4. Shave the fsb on the Noveske and add a longer rail over the top.

Reason- I love the Centurion rail, but wish that I had more space out front for my hand.  It would be perfect for a 10.3" barrel though.  This allows me to "upgrade" my Noveske (longer rail) while still using the Centurion rail for the sbr.  Since the Adco CQB is naked, I'm not wasting money on a handguard or rail that I won't use.

I'm good with it.



Have you done that E-file yet?

Why not just get the BCM 10.5" or 11.5" upper for $439 with the free BCG?

Mick

Tempted, but BCM only makes 11.5".  It is a fantastic deal.  If I didn't already have a 14.5", I'd seriously consider it.  I just can't justify the cost of the upper plus tax stamp for 3" shorter than what I already own.

3" is a decent difference....once you add a can to either, that 3" is noticeable.

This. I had (still do) a 14.5" M4A1, then got an AAC M4-2k. It's noticeably, significantly long.

I say leave you current upper as is and either buy or build a 10.5" or 11.5" upper.