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Posted: 8/30/2014 4:40:01 PM EDT

Got the email today that my form 1 was dissapporved this morning without any explanation. Went to the site hoping to get some info and there is nothing. The form is now filed under "Dissapproved" and of course they are closed for the weekend.

Has anyone had this happen?

UPDATE 9/4/14: Damn, ATF must be working two shifts. Just received the approval email for the replacement form with the corrected caliber.

Pics in-bound after the stock gets delivered and installed.

Submitted 8/11/14, approved after correction 9/4/14

Posted: 8/30/2014 4:49:12 PM EDT

[#1]

Best bet is to call them with all your info when they reopen and ask sorry for your luck

Posted: 8/30/2014 5:11:51 PM EDT

[#2]

Appreciate that.

Sucks that they kicked it back on a Holliday weekend.

Posted: 8/30/2014 5:13:27 PM EDT

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If you view the form, there's not a 5th page with explanation? Pretty sure that's where I found mine.

Posted: 8/30/2014 6:11:28 PM EDT

[#4]

Figures. Website is down.

Posted: 8/30/2014 6:56:00 PM EDT

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It would be on the attachment as well.

Posted: 8/30/2014 9:40:55 PM EDT

[#6]

Got it.

"Unable to format the desired caliber in our system"

The caliber was in the drop down window.

Posted: 8/30/2014 9:46:41 PM EDT

[#7]

So what caliber did you use so we know what not to put?

Posted: 8/30/2014 9:46:43 PM EDT

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Got it.

"Unable to format the desired caliber in our system"

The caliber was in the drop down window.

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I think every "caliber" that anyone has entered, even if it is not acceptable, is listed in the drop down. What did you use?...for example, Multi-caliber is listed, but it is NOT acceptable.
Edit: anyone that is going to efile should use BigWayons "how to efile" that is listed in the stickies. Guaranteed success when using his guidelines.

Posted: 8/30/2014 9:49:14 PM EDT

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Got it.

"Unable to format the desired caliber in our system"

The caliber was in the drop down window.

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Unfortunately, just because the caliber is in the dropdown, doesn't mean it's acceptable. What you can do is submit a new eForm, and then email [email protected] with both the new and old control numbers while explaining what happened. That has helped speed up the approval process for many after receiving a disapproval...

Posted: 8/30/2014 9:51:36 PM EDT

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Unfortunately, just because the caliber is in the dropdown, doesn't mean it's acceptable. What you can do is submit a new eForm, and then email [email protected] with both the new and old control numbers while explaining what happened. That has helped speed up the approval process for many after receiving a disapproval...

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Got it.

"Unable to format the desired caliber in our system"

The caliber was in the drop down window.

Unfortunately, just because the caliber is in the dropdown, doesn't mean it's acceptable. What you can do is submit a new eForm, and then email [email protected] with both the new and old control numbers while explaining what happened. That has helped speed up the approval process for many after receiving a disapproval...

Thanks AP, will try that Tuesday.

Posted: 8/30/2014 10:34:54 PM EDT

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Got it.

"Unable to format the desired caliber in our system"

The caliber was in the drop down window.

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Not sure exactly what you chose, but I know there's a known issue (besides multi) if you choose some of the ones like 5.56x45 or 7.62x39. The system basically craps out.

As mentioned by AP, it should get fixed pretty quick. Here's the info if you want to know why the "email Ted" response is given. Don't wait until Tuesday. Just do it now. You may be surprised. (This is all assuming that floating another $200 for a couple weeks isn't a financial burden, which it definitely can be).

Posted: 8/31/2014 9:56:00 AM EDT

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They put out an email earlier regarding calibers. They reject multi and want just the bore size not the specific cartridge. .22 for 22lr and 5.56 for 5.56x45.

Posted: 8/31/2014 10:53:20 AM EDT

[#13]

Just fired of another form 1. Hopefully they can push it through. Thanks for the help guys.

Posted: 8/31/2014 12:20:50 PM EDT

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They put out an email earlier regarding calibers. They reject multi and want just the bore size not the specific cartridge. .22 for 22lr and 5.56 for 5.56x45.

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And here's part of that bulletin:

Posted: 9/1/2014 8:18:12 AM EDT

[#15]

So... What caliber did you choose?

Posted: 9/1/2014 8:35:29 AM EDT

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And here's part of that bulletin:

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/thegreghorton/EFORMS/2E731681-2C6E-453B-B60C-0939959FA365_zpstqfbkgpk.jpg

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They put out an email earlier regarding calibers. They reject multi and want just the bore size not the specific cartridge. .22 for 22lr and 5.56 for 5.56x45.

And here's part of that bulletin:

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/thegreghorton/EFORMS/2E731681-2C6E-453B-B60C-0939959FA365_zpstqfbkgpk.jpg

Damn, I just dropped off two paper Form 1s for the local CLEO to sign and I listed one of the calibers as "9x19". Is that an issue with paper forms too?

Posted: 9/1/2014 9:09:15 AM EDT

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Damn, I just dropped off two paper Form 1s for the local CLEO to sign and I listed one of the calibers as "9x19". Is that an issue with paper forms too?

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You'd like to think it's the same rules. But, I have a paper form approved 4 months ago that says "300" Blackout". I'd think you're good to go.

Posted: 9/1/2014 10:38:54 AM EDT

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Damn, I just dropped off two paper Form 1s for the local CLEO to sign and I listed one of the calibers as "9x19". Is that an issue with paper forms too?

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They put out an email earlier regarding calibers. They reject multi and want just the bore size not the specific cartridge. .22 for 22lr and 5.56 for 5.56x45.

And here's part of that bulletin:

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/thegreghorton/EFORMS/2E731681-2C6E-453B-B60C-0939959FA365_zpstqfbkgpk.jpg

Damn, I just dropped off two paper Form 1s for the local CLEO to sign and I listed one of the calibers as "9x19". Is that an issue with paper forms too?

I just got a eform 1 approved using 9x19. I was worried, but it went thru.

Posted: 9/1/2014 10:17:36 PM EDT

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So... What caliber did you choose?

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Posted: 9/1/2014 11:07:16 PM EDT

[#20]

Sorry for the late reply guys. I chose 7.62x39.

Apparently, I chose...poorly. They like 7.62 ONLY.

Posted: 9/2/2014 1:42:22 AM EDT

[#21]

I filed my first eform a week before those caliber instructions were sent out and I had put 300 AAC as my caliber. It was approved but someone had changed it to say 300.

Posted: 9/2/2014 8:40:28 AM EDT

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Sorry for the late reply guys. I chose 7.62x39.

Apparently, I chose...poorly. They like 7.62 ONLY.

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That's one of the ones that crashes the system for whatever reason. I've seen several people mention being Disapproved for that one, and then getting an Approved form the next day after resubmitting and emailing Ted.

Posted: 9/2/2014 8:57:55 AM EDT

[#23]

So do the the lowers become caliber specific?

i.e, I register a 5.56 lower, I can NOT just slap on a 10" 300 Black upper?

Posted: 9/2/2014 9:01:21 AM EDT

[#24]

You fill out the Form 1 for the configuration you're initially going to build. You can then change it to whatever barrel length (longer or shorter than specified) and caliber you want. ATF requests, but has no legal or regulatory authority to require, that you notify them of any "permanent" change in configuration. It's up to you whether you consider any change in configuration to be "permanent" on an AR.

Posted: 9/2/2014 10:09:28 AM EDT

[#25]

Just fired off an email to Mr. Clutter about the disapproval and newly submitted form.

Posted: 9/4/2014 12:32:25 AM EDT

[#26]

Damn it. Just filed the other day for a PS90 and used the drop down menu to select 5.7x28. I guess I'll see if it gets kicked back because I can not go in and change it now.

Posted: 9/4/2014 1:26:17 AM EDT

[#27]

Damn, ATF must be working two shifts. Just received the approval email for the replacement form with the corrected caliber.

Pics in-bound after the stock gets delivered and installed.

Submitted 8/11/14, approved after correction 9/4/14

Posted: 9/4/2014 7:57:52 AM EDT

[#28]

I did it too...submitted my first form 1 with e-forms and selected 5.45x39 as the caliber. I knew better too...caliber is just the bore diameter, not the cartridge designation. God, I'm such an idiot.

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