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Posted: 1/9/2012 9:24:30 PM
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Originally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:
Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:
So at what distances are you guys zeroing your 10.3/5" barreled ARs? I have mine zeroed @ 50 using IMI M193, but find when shooting close up, POI is low, as expected.


Anyone? Do most of you zero your 10.3/5" @ 25yd or 50yd? Thanks. Please redirect me if this has already been discussed elsewhere. Thanks.


50yds.


Ditto..I can easily engage 12" steel plates out to 300yds with a 50yd zero...


Dang! Is this degree of accuracy normal with this length barrel, or are you a cyborg? I'm waiting on a stamp for a Colt 10.3 factory SBR. If I can plink the 300 yard steel at my gun club with that gun I will be extremely happy!
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There––-fixed it for you

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Posted: 1/9/2012 11:10:06 PM
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Originally Posted By flynbye:
How many people are using noveske pig ? I been thinking about picking one of these up till I start the ball rolling on my can are they worth the price tag


I use the pig, its not really needed - I just kind of like the way it looks.


First thing I did was took mine off and sold it, too heavy IMO.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 12:28:26 AM
10.3" DD upper, why I put the AA piston kit on, I don't know. It shoots great..



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Posted: 1/10/2012 10:33:45 AM
SOPMOD M4A1 CQBs:















Both DD 10.3" gov't profile barrels:

Block 1:

DD 10.3" URG
KAC M4 RAS
KAC M4QD Comp
Crane SOPMOD charging handle latch
BCM BCG
Trijicon TA01NSN/JPoint (4X DOS- MRD)

Block 2:

Colt M4 upper
DD 10.3" barrel
KAC MK 12 gas block
DD MK18 RIS II
KAC M4QD Comp
PRI M84 Gasbuster charging handle
Colt BCG
EOTech 553.A65 TAN (SU-231/PEQ)

~Augee
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Posted: 1/10/2012 11:19:15 AM
Originally Posted By Augee:
SOPMOD M4A1 CQBs:

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01620.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01615.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01614.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01613.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01612.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01610.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01607.jpg

Both DD 10.3" gov't profile barrels:

Block 1:

DD 10.3" URG
KAC M4 RAS
KAC M4QD Comp
Crane SOPMOD charging handle latch
BCM BCG
Trijicon TA01NSN/JPoint (4X DOS- MRD)

Block 2:

Colt M4 upper
DD 10.3" barrel
KAC MK 12 gas block
DD MK18 RIS II
KAC M4QD Comp
PRI M84 Gasbuster charging handle
Colt BCG
EOTech 553.A65 TAN (SU-231/PEQ)

~Augee


Just curious, is there a reason there is no rear sight on the one upper? Is that how the .mil configuration is? TIA

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Posted: 1/10/2012 12:45:47 PM
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Originally Posted By bwideman:
Originally Posted By Augee:
SOPMOD M4A1 CQBs:

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01620.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01615.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01614.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01613.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01612.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01610.jpg

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DSC01607.jpg

Both DD 10.3" gov't profile barrels:

Block 1:

DD 10.3" URG
KAC M4 RAS
KAC M4QD Comp
Crane SOPMOD charging handle latch
BCM BCG
Trijicon TA01NSN/JPoint (4X DOS- MRD)

Block 2:

Colt M4 upper
DD 10.3" barrel
KAC MK 12 gas block
DD MK18 RIS II
KAC M4QD Comp
PRI M84 Gasbuster charging handle
Colt BCG
EOTech 553.A65 TAN (SU-231/PEQ)

~Augee


Just curious, is there a reason there is no rear sight on the one upper? Is that how the .mil configuration is? TIA



Honestly, and I know this'll be an upopular opinion, but I'm more and more getting away from BUIS in general.

They restrict the mounting options for magnified sights, which these days are pretty damn durable and reliable. After years of using carbines on both sides of the water and never using my BUIS, I'm beginning to find them unnecessarily limiting. It got excessive with my last rifle where I was running five independant sighting systems - primary optic, piggybacked MRD, PEQ, optic (ELCAN) mounted BUIS, and receiver mounted BUIS.

While it's not necessarily apparent from those photos - I've also long been an NTCH - magnified optics on the very front of the receiver - stock completely collapsed kind of guy, but I'm experimenting with longer LOP and further rear mounting of optics, too.

I do maintain fixed carry handle rifles for dedicated iron sights use to stay sharp with them and practice basic techniques, but on the Block 2 CQBR, the BUIS exist almost solely because I shelled out $186 for the taupe KAC front sight - which I've yet to even zero. In the horrific horrible of horribles - the ELCAN and TA01NSN both have BUIS on them, and for the fixed FSB carbines, I've trained to engage directly off the front sight without a rear aperture to acheive COM out to about 50m.

That being said, overseas, I usually keep a pre-zeroed backup optic in my pack to begin with, with the TA51 mount and ARMS mounts giving you repeatability within 1-2MOA at most, it'll do until I can unass from whatever bad juju I'm in at the moment, then deal with the problem when things quiet down. Modern optics are pretty damn bombproof these days - and I reckon the likelihood of an ELCAN going down is remote enough that the likelihood of an ELCAN and an ACOG going down over the course of one engagement and requiring the use of BUIS is pretty infintessimally small.

~Augee

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Originally Posted By flynbye:
How many people are using noveske pig ? I been thinking about picking one of these up till I start the ball rolling on my can are they worth the price tag


Personally I don't think my 10.3 is any louder than a 16 inch gun. Sounds the same to me. Now my 10.5 with comp is a different story.
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Posted: 1/10/2012 5:52:02 PM

Originally Posted By TannerB:
Originally Posted By flynbye:
How many people are using noveske pig ? I been thinking about picking one of these up till I start the ball rolling on my can are they worth the price tag


Personally I don't think my 10.3 is any louder than a 16 inch gun. Sounds the same to me. Now my 10.5 with comp is a different story.
This. I was expecting my 10.5" to be obnoxious whenever I first shot it. It's loud, but no louder than my 16". When I put on a BC, it became much louder and the concussion literally rattled my face. It was not enjoyable. I'm back to a regular ol' A2.

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10.5





Just rebuilt mine. Went from the picture above to this.

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Posted: 1/10/2012 6:22:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By bwideman:
Originally Posted By Augee:
SOPMOD M4A1 CQBs:

Both DD 10.3" gov't profile barrels:

Block 1:

DD 10.3" URG
KAC M4 RAS
KAC M4QD Comp
Crane SOPMOD charging handle latch
BCM BCG
Trijicon TA01NSN/JPoint (4X DOS- MRD)

Block 2:

Colt M4 upper
DD 10.3" barrel
KAC MK 12 gas block
DD MK18 RIS II
KAC M4QD Comp
PRI M84 Gasbuster charging handle
Colt BCG
EOTech 553.A65 TAN (SU-231/PEQ)

~Augee


Just curious, is there a reason there is no rear sight on the one upper? Is that how the .mil configuration is? TIA



Honestly, and I know this'll be an upopular opinion, but I'm more and more getting away from BUIS in general.

They restrict the mounting options for magnified sights, which these days are pretty damn durable and reliable. After years of using carbines on both sides of the water and never using my BUIS, I'm beginning to find them unnecessarily limiting. It got excessive with my last rifle where I was running five independant sighting systems - primary optic, piggybacked MRD, PEQ, optic (ELCAN) mounted BUIS, and receiver mounted BUIS.

While it's not necessarily apparent from those photos - I've also long been an NTCH - magnified optics on the very front of the receiver - stock completely collapsed kind of guy, but I'm experimenting with longer LOP and further rear mounting of optics, too.

I do maintain fixed carry handle rifles for dedicated iron sights use to stay sharp with them and practice basic techniques, but on the Block 2 CQBR, the BUIS exist almost solely because I shelled out $186 for the taupe KAC front sight - which I've yet to even zero. In the horrific horrible of horribles - the ELCAN and TA01NSN both have BUIS on them, and for the fixed FSB carbines, I've trained to engage directly off the front sight without a rear aperture to acheive COM out to about 50m.

That being said, overseas, I usually keep a pre-zeroed backup optic in my pack to begin with, with the TA51 mount and ARMS mounts giving you repeatability within 1-2MOA at most, it'll do until I can unass from whatever bad juju I'm in at the moment, then deal with the problem when things quiet down. Modern optics are pretty damn bombproof these days - and I reckon the likelihood of an ELCAN going down is remote enough that the likelihood of an ELCAN and an ACOG going down over the course of one engagement and requiring the use of BUIS is pretty infintessimally small.

~Augee



I have found similar experiences with my weapons and also keep an entire carry handle on my plate carrier (in the same pouch as my NVG mount)

Unpopular is right! Try posting that in AR Discussion and you'll get "but what if your weapon goes down and you need it right then! " as they take their weapon out of their trunk and walk it to the bench.
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Originally Posted By 25Chuck:
Just rebuilt mine. Went from the picture above to this.





nice lower and stock! nice SBR overall
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Originally Posted By 25Chuck:
Just rebuilt mine. Went from the picture above to this.

http://http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/25chuck/Weapons/IMG_0126.jpg



nice lower and stock! nice SBR overall


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http://i53.tinypic.com/27wswzn.jpg


How are you liking the HK v2 grip? Were you able to try it out on the range yet? For me, the HK v2 is perfect ... hope yours is the same!
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http://i53.tinypic.com/27wswzn.jpg


How are you liking the HK v2 grip? Were you able to try it out on the range yet? For me, the HK v2 is perfect ... hope yours is the same!


Yep, it's awesome. I have decided that I must have a backstrap as an A1 or TD just seems to small for my hand. MOEs/MIADs are fine, but the steeper angle of the HK V2 is much better for getting your elbow tucked and maneuvering close quarters. MOEs angles are fine for most all my applications, but this one just feels good. Hopefully some others who are wondering will check it out.
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10.3" DD upper, why I put the AA piston kit on, I don't know. It shoots great..


http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/019cc.jpg


I'm thinking about going with the piston kit on mine. Any advantages or disadvantages that you care to share?
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10.3" DD upper, why I put the AA piston kit on, I don't know. It shoots great..


http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/019cc.jpg


I'm thinking about going with the piston kit on mine. Any advantages or disadvantages that you care to share?


Mine is posted a few pics up and has the AA piston kit. I like it because I'm lazy and it cuts down on the cleanup after range trips. I have only tried it with M855, but it runs great.
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Originally Posted By Pacs:
10.3" DD upper, why I put the AA piston kit on, I don't know. It shoots great..


http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/019cc.jpg


I'm thinking about going with the piston kit on mine. Any advantages or disadvantages that you care to share?


Mine is posted a few pics up and has the AA piston kit. I like it because I'm lazy and it cuts down on the cleanup after range trips. I have only tried it with M855, but it runs great.


mine runs great too. but so do my DI guns. in my opinion its 6 in one/ half dozen int he other
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Posted: 1/23/2012 10:56:55 AM
Originally Posted By flynbye:
How many people are using noveske pig ? I been thinking about picking one of these up till I start the ball rolling on my can are they worth the price tag


I don't use one on a 10.5", but I've got one on a 7.5". It noticeably reduces the blast and concussion at the shooter's position, my 7.5" with the pig doesn't seem any louder to my ear than a 14.5" or 16" with an A2 flash suppressor.

Like mentioned above, it does add weight and length. For reference here's my 10.5" with A2 on the left and the 7.5" with the pig on the right:
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