I read the FAQ, and it says "After you obtain your approved Form 1 from the BATFE, you will then need to mark your lower."

I have a question about the engraving the ATF form says I need...
______
1. The model, if such designation has been made
2. The caliber or gauge
3. The name (or recognized abbreviation of same) of the manufacturer and also, when applicable, of the importer
4. In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where the licensed manufacturer maintains its place of business
5. In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which manufactured and the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where the importer maintains its place of business.
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The gun already has the model(M15A4), caliber(.223), the manufacturer(Armalite), the address(of Armalite). My question is what do I need to engrave then?

Am I now the manufacturer?, I don't see anywhere it states I have to engrave my name.


P.S. I'm sending my SBR(form 1) paperwork off to the BATFE tonight The long wait begins!

Another Question…

If I filled out a form 1 to make my AR15 into a SBR(and was approved) can I legally take the upper to a gunsmith and have him/her put the shorter barrel on the upper?

Would this be legal?

Or a different question.

Can I legally buy an upper with a barrel length less then 16 inches without breaking the law?

Originally Posted By lostngone: If I filled out a form 1 to make my AR15 into a SBR(and was approved) can I legally take the upper to a gunsmith and have him/her put the shorter barrel on the upper? Would this be legal?

You could give the complete gun to the FFL gunsmith who would put a short barrel onto the upper. Any smith worth their salt will test it on your complete gun and make sure it works. Completely legal... No form 5 is required for gunsmithing like above.

Can I legally buy an upper with a barrel length less then 16 inches without breaking the law?

If you have an SBR, MG o an AR15 pistol.

mark
buda@TripleBreakProducts.com

Originally Posted By lostngone: Am I now the manufacturer?, I don't see anywhere it states I have to engrave my name.

Yes, you are the manufacture of the SBR.

Put your initials and a abbreviation of your city and state.

Example: Lostgone Itching Goodboy at Merrimack, New Hampshire would be:

LIG MMK NH

mark
buda@TripleBreakProducts.com

Two more newbie (dumb) questions:

On the Citizenship form, who's name is entered on line 2. ..Certifying to citizenship__________?

Does this form need to be notarized?

-LS

What do you use to "affix photo" to the form?

Tape?

Staple?

iron on transfer?

-LS

I used double sided tape from good ole' Wally World.

Been 30 days, ain't heard nothin'

Danny

Originally Posted By longshot_va: No one answered this question: What are acceptable reasons as to why you intend to make a firearm (box 4i)? tia, -LS

I was informed to put "Firearms Collector" by a couple of friends who have already went through the process. The ATF just cashed my check last week, I assume thats a good sign.

The FAQ mentions pre and postban configurations. I assume that this no longer has any meaning in those states that the AWB has truly sunset or is there some special nuance of the law that make a pre-94 lower of benefit?

Originally Posted By tony_k: Originally Posted By Lumpy_3: The corporation route, is it easier? Well, you have the initial effort and expense of setting up a corporation, and you may have annual paperwork/state fees/taxes or tax forms, depending on your state and the way you set up the corp. However, once you have the corporation, it's much easier dealing with BATF(E) requirements: --No CLEO signoff needed. --No fingerprint cards needed. --No photos needed. In addition to saving the time and effort to get the above, my corporate transfers usually take two to three weeks from pending to approved. The longest only took a month; the shortest, nine days. So I would say yes, the corporation route is easier and faster.

Quick questions on Corporate Route:
1. The SBR would be considered an asset, therefore Taxable, right? Also it would depreciate just like any other Asset, right?
2. Does it matter what type of a Corporation, such as a standard Corp, sun-chapter S, LLL, and most importantly a Trust??? I am thinking of forming a Family Trust for personal finance reasons, and if this could also be used as the holder of the SBR, then everything would be PERFECT for me????

Originally Posted By edwin247: Quick questions on Corporate Route: 1. The SBR would be considered an asset, therefore Taxable, right? Also it would depreciate just like any other Asset, right?

You should ask your accountant about this. Mine said that unless the item is in used in the corporation's business (like a computer would be), it is considered an investment asset instead of a working asset. So he would not write off any depreciation, but if/when the corporation sells the SBR, any loss becomes deductible.

2. Does it matter what type of a Corporation, such as a standard Corp, sun-chapter S, LLL, and most importantly a Trust??? I am thinking of forming a Family Trust for personal finance reasons, and if this could also be used as the holder of the SBR, then everything would be PERFECT for me????

"C" corps, "S" corps and LLCs are fine. Family Trusts are another matter -- I know of several cases where BATF has refused to transfer NFA items to trusts here in Florida. Other states may vary. In addition, NFA-savvy attorneys and accountants have told me that for legal/accounting reasons, trusts are not a good way to go. (I don't recall the details because I use an established "S" corp; however, BATF generally requires the transferee to be a legal entity acknowledged, chartered or licensed by the state of residence, and many trusts do not meet that criteria.)

HTH.

Originally Posted By gradyW: Originally Posted By gradyW: I have a question about the "apllication to make and register a firearm" form. If you have a C&R license would you need to put that in box 5? Thanks

You are a licensed collector, not a licensed dealer, so no, you would not need to. You can put that info in if you like, but I doubt it will have any effect either way.