Feel free to address the points made in the Shepherd discussion on page 4.

zak,

I had thought you were/had a wrte up on the Burris Tacticals.

has anyone looked into vector optics?

They are on the low end price range market but its a good scope (well good in my experience anyways)

I have a 10x40x56 30mm scope

here is a picture or the scope mounted on my EDM ARMS .308

YES

Outstanding thread Zak.......thank you.

I just finished one of the articles you had in the latest SGN treasury on AR battle optics.....your style of writing(as usual) is very down to earth and reader-friendly .

I enjoy the hell outa your Demigod LLC site as well.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

(STARTED AS 700P ) 5R barrel 26in. special order 1lb. trigger MY personal best was (5in) but NOW 3.5 in groups @ 1000yds ( I REALIZE I'M NOT WORLD CLASS BUT IT'S FAR FROM LAST)

Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 8.5-25x50mm Long Range / Tactical M5 Matte Illuminated TMR Reticle Mark 4 rings & 1 piece Mark 4- 1 piece base

Yes I want to see my target by what most would say overkill/over/see but @ 1000 I( shoot @ 12in X 12in steel plates that fill my 50mm front lens it actually look's like most 100yd shot's. But seeing is hitting & believing :) Hell of an accurate shooter for a $5000 Remmy

Lastly I try to remain with AMERICAN MADE & REMINGTON IS AMERICA'S OLDEST RIFLE MAKER

I wanted it to look stock, make's it much more suprising shooting along side some AI's & such etc..

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Confused as well

700p = $900
Re-barrel + fitting = $550
Scope = $1500
Non-swivel Harris = $70
Rings/base = $200
Trued action* = $250
Bedding* = $150
Oversized recoil lug* = $30
PTG bolt* = $300
Trigger* = $250
Total = $4200

* denotes assumptions I made to jack up the price to try to reach $5k

Hey guys. Looking for some advise. I am gonna be getting a savage model 10 fcp-k. I only have ranges around me up to 300 yards. I have a leupold mark ar 3x9x40 on my rra .308 and i like it. Would not say i love it. The savage will be in a 308 also. I want this gun for target shooting and long range. However long range at this point will only be 300 yards. I want a scope for the savage that will easily see a paper target at well past 300 yards. I wont to go ver kill instead of wishing i had more. I dont want to spend 1500$ on the scope but not 300$ either. What would you guys think would be a good choice?

Thanks

Thank you for the excellent write ups.

I decided to go with Schmidt & Bender, but I will tell you from my experience, that their customer serivce leaves much to be desired. If it was not for the fact I really want the specific scope, I would cancel the order and go with Leupold Mark IV series since their service has always been top notch.

nothing nice to say.....

I have a question for you. With a ffp when you dial the magnification the retical increases in size. How is this more precise then a fine retical ? Don't you want a small cross hair in order to have precise site picture. How do you get a good site picture with big fat cross hairs on a small target at long range ? Also with heavy winds on long range targets you would have to dial down in order to get your wind dots to be visible in your site picture ? Less magnification on long range targets is good ? How large is the cross hairs at full magnification at a target 12" at 1000.

I looked through a ffp and put it down and bought a sfp. My rational was I could practice with my scope, learn my wind /elevation values at certain magnification. EX. At 5.5 mag my hash marks are 12" dot to dot and at 22 mag my hash marks are 3" dot to dot at 100 yds (. Not real values just an example ) then do the same for every 100yds out to what ever distance you want to shoot. Then you would know that at ex. 800 yds and at 22 power my mil dots are lets say 12" apart. And if you know your mag values at all 100 yard increments you could dial the mag to suit your conditions for wind. Ex. At 700 yds with a 10 mph wind the rnd will move 24" and you knew that at 700 yds my mil dots at 20 power are 12" apart the use the second dot for aim point. Am I wrong about this way of thinking ?

I have not shot out past 500yds so I am NO expert. I thought that first focal plane scopes were for snipers to shoot quickly at moving targets. Would you really pick a large cross hair over a small one at 1500 yds. Even a fine cross hair at that range would obscure your site picture I would think.

My days of runnin around the sand pile with my m16a2 service rifle are long gone. Though I wish we had done more " target shooting " in Mogadishu. Maybe there would be less pirates there. I want to get back into compition shooting but I guess I have a lot to learn other then site alignment site picture and trigger control.

Do you need a ffp to shoot comps now ? Do I really need to spend $ 3000 + on another scope ? My night force cost $ 2000 is it useless for long range comps ? Please excuse a rookie for potentially stupid questions. Just want all the info I can get from the experts so I can go out and beat you. LOL If I lose a will just call in a air strike to take out all your targets and leave mine still standing. Bet that would guarantee me VICTORY.. Semper Fi...