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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2012 10:02:13 PM EDT
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Working on the final inleting of the action and bottom metal now, and finishing the stock. I decided to add a california/Bishop style cap to the pistol grip. My buddy that I got the rifle from hates it, he's a classic stock kind of guy. Oh well, he had 20 years to make his own , never got to it...
I figure if I hate it I can grind it off and go back to a classic pistol grip 
Planning to do an endcap on the forend next.  Attached File |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:09:42 AM EDT
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More stock work while I'm waiting on a
High hopes!  Attached FileTurns out MY right thumb has a lot of uses! I couldn't resist taking a sanding block to the joint while the glue was setting to see how the joint looked, and managed to catch my thumbnail on the plywood and rip it partially from the bed. 
Damn that HURTS! 
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Posted: 3/14/2012 11:55:23 AM EDT
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what look are you going for with the stock? Are you keeping the original, military-type stock or more of a "sporter" config?
I'm just curious. There seems to be a trend back toward the original look. I am sitting on a closetfull of sporterized mausers in various states of disrepair..... Also, are you keeping it in 8mm or going to a more modern cartridge? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:17:54 PM EDT
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Well, I'm happy with the results, my first attempt to do an endcap on a stock.
Now I'm looking around the shop nto see who else needs one!
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:19:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
what look are you going for with the stock? Are you keeping the original, military-type stock or more of a "sporter" config? I'm just curious. There seems to be a trend back toward the original look. I am sitting on a closetfull of sporterized mausers in various states of disrepair..... Also, are you keeping it in 8mm or going to a more modern cartridge? If you read the thread, your questions will be anwered.... 
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:14:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PR361:
Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
what look are you going for with the stock? Are you keeping the original, military-type stock or more of a "sporter" config? I'm just curious. There seems to be a trend back toward the original look. I am sitting on a closetfull of sporterized mausers in various states of disrepair..... Also, are you keeping it in 8mm or going to a more modern cartridge? If you read the thread, your questions will be anwered....
I just look at the pretty pictures. Saw the note about the calibre. That's one question answered at least.... |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2012 10:53:24 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2012 11:31:00 PM EDT
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It`s looking real good. By the way, what kind of wood is the end cap?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:45:37 PM EDT
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Bought it off ebay as cocobolo. Maybe it is
I think it will set off the walnut once it;s finished though. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2012 10:30:37 PM EDT
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It's the little things.....
 Attached FileMore stock inletting to do now. I've beeen waiting on a barrel...... |
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USA
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Posted: 4/1/2012 12:03:14 PM EDT
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Beware of the JERRY KUHNHAUSEN book on Mausers.
His book on double action Colt revolvers is THE book on the subject. His book on Mausers is worse than no book. It might lead to heat treat or bolt face clean up. |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 12:41:40 PM EDT
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Nice project - looking good!
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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:35:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Clarkma:
Beware of the JERRY KUHNHAUSEN book on Mausers. His book on double action Colt revolvers is THE book on the subject. His book on Mausers is worse than no book. It might lead to heat treat or bolt face clean up. Uh-oh... Actually, I take everything with a grain of salt, check multiple sources, then decide what I feel comfortable with. But I do have his book.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:36:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sandblaster:
Nice project - looking good! Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 10:01:30 PM EDT
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I've been fitting and inleting the trigger, had to cut out for the safety, and file the bottom metal for clearance. Then it hit the trigger guard.
 Attached FileTurns out the bold sits further back toward the pistol grip than a standard military trigger. Which is good. So I had to reform the trigger guard, which turns out to be maybe cast, and I managed to crack while cold hammering it.[:// Got it hot to finish and the cracks are tiny, but since I also managed to get the screw hole off center , I'm shopping for a replacement trigger guard. This one will do, but at some point it will be replaced.
As I said at the beginning, I'll probably make some huge mistakes, but I'm learning a lot about building rifles!
I've tinkered with'em all my life, a little inleting here, a barrel swap there, accurizing, bolt truing, but this is my first ground up build. Steep learning curve for me.... Silver soldered a nut to attach trigger guard, the military one was cut away for the curvy replacement  Attached FileInleting for the safety here, I made it rather large, but I wanted a VERY Positive movement of the safety with zero interference., also made the clearance cut for the bolt.  Attached FileOn to final sanding, stock checkering, and bottom metal finishing!
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Posted: 4/28/2012 10:23:07 PM EDT
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Busy as a Beaver these days, Kids in Baseball, FD has ramped up training, I never seem to have a day to myself. I've been working on finishing the bottom metal, getting it ready to blue, and my nieghbor has been playing with a $10 8mm Mauser barrel I bought off ebay for him to mess around with in the lathe, learning what he needs to know before my new one arrives!
He contoured the military steps out, cut it, and crowned it. So tonight we screwed it on did a little inleting and mocked up the rifle.
Its not headspaced or even tightened all the way on, and the inletting doesnt allow it to bottom into the stock, but it does give an impression of what the finished rifle will look like!
I'm tempted to headspace it and shoot the rifle as an 8mm until the barrel arrives, but garunteed if I go to the trouble, the new barrel will show up the next day...
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Posted: 4/30/2012 8:16:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2012 10:19:54 PM EDT
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That's a nice rifle.
Mine is more of a low budget DIY kind of rifle 
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Posted: 5/13/2012 9:42:48 PM EDT
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Little League is over, Girl Scouts is wrapping up and schools almost over
. Now if I could just figure out how ER Shaw measures time.....Has it been three or four months since Mid January yet?
I'm a little fish in their pond, but I wish my barrel would show up! Found a little shop time and got the bottom metal ready for bluing....  Attached FileAnd started the final stock work, inletting the European style sling swivels and sanding.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/24/2012 10:26:36 PM EDT
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Finally got the bottom metal blued and assembled, I'm happy with how it turned out.
 Finished sanding and inleting the stock, and got on the first coat of oil. I'm practicing chechering on some old pieces, whenI get my nerve up I'll checker the grips on this one. Almost there!  Attached FileWhere's the barrel.... Edited to filter out Bourbon
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2012 5:22:00 PM EDT
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Looking very nice! The bluing is excellent.
I have a question, though. Is the trigger guard remove-able and do you have a rear action screw? |
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Posted: 5/25/2012 10:04:04 PM EDT
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Thanks
Thr rust bluing is really ideal for the home gunsmith, it's all about polishing, cleaning the metal, and taking your time. The experience of doing this gun has made me quite confident using it.. The trigger Guard unscrews, you remove the wood screw in the grip and rotate it out of the way to access the rear action screw. Scroll back towards the top of the page and you will see the 1/4-28 nut I silver soldered inside the bottom metal. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/28/2012 3:47:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PR361:
Thanks
Thr rust bluing is really ideal for the home gunsmith, it's all about polishing, cleaning the metal, and taking your time. The experience of doing this gun has made me quite confident using it.. The trigger Guard unscrews, you remove the wood screw in the grip and rotate it out of the way to access the rear action screw. Scroll back towards the top of the page and you will see the 1/4-28 nut I silver soldered inside the bottom metal. Ah. I see. Its all clear now :) |
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Posted: 5/31/2012 9:49:59 PM EDT
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Happiness & Joy!
I was tinkering around, bluing the final small parts, the sling swivel mounts and screws, extractor collar, etc. Came in the house and for the 100th time in the last 2 months, peeked out on the porch and WOOHOO! the UPS man snuck in and out while I was in the shop! When I ordered this in January, the rifle was a work in progress, what I knew was that I wanted a heavy Barrel, and an accurate rifle. Better to big than too small I say! Yes, I know, it's to big..... Attached FileI briefly considered a Target stock from Boyds, But the rifle I envisioned is almost done, so Me & Nieghbor are going to measure, and chuck it in the lathe and profile it to just fit in the available wood. Custom Rifle INDEED! |
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Posted: 6/9/2012 10:46:38 PM EDT
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Rainy Saturdays were made for machining...
 Attached FileAnd don't let yer knuckles get to close , knuckle head! 
Barrel is contoured and fitted to the reciever. The Muzzle is .80, .80 to the wood, then a straight taper to the reciever at 1.2. My nieghbor and I's first nime out contouring a barell, so we kept it simple. I'm very pleased with the final shape, It's about as heavy as I could make it and still have some wood left on the stock.
We also fit the barrel to the reciever, nieghbors first time out on that too, and he hit it dead nuts on the first try. Well, two or three cuts and test fits, but the final " guestemate fit hand tight on the C ring with .015 clearence at the shoulder. Should torque to a perfect fit, with most of the load on the C ring, which is the primary torque shoulder. Off to inlet the stock for the barrel, blue the barrel, and order the reamer!
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Posted: 6/15/2012 10:00:03 PM EDT
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 Attached FileTest blueing the 8mm barrel that has been our practice piece. I'm using a different product, as Brownells has been out of the Classic Rust Blue for months, and I don't think I have enough left to do the barrel. So I have Laurel Mountain Browning solution, which can also be used for blueing. Hopefully the color match will be indistinguishable. Stove top blueing
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WY, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2012 8:59:15 PM EDT
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So how did it turn out? Color matched?
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Posted: 6/19/2012 10:12:42 PM EDT
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Perfect!
I actually was so happy with it that I immediately started the process on my 6.5 Barrel. The first rust is done and I plan on finishing it over the next two days when I get off shift. Once the barrel is blued, the rifle will be ready for final assembly, then I'll order the reamer from 4D rentals. I'm looking at shooting in a couple of weeks I hope. I'll have some pictures up in a day or so.....
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Posted: 6/20/2012 1:11:47 PM EDT
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I'm using This product from Brownells now, it;s not listed in the blueing but rather under browning products. Reading the instructions reveals that browning and bluing are bacically the same process, browning is carded off without boiling, boiling in distilled water converts the brown/red oxide to black oxide, or blue. This bottle comes with instructions for blueing or browning, and is cheaper tha the rust blues, less than $10 for the 4 oz bottle, 2-3 guns worth.
It also seems to have a slightly bluer color....  Attached FileMy E.R. Shaw barrel is boiling down it's second rust as I type this.... |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2012 11:42:04 PM EDT
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I like it. Waiting for more updates
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:36:26 PM EDT
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I put five or six layers of blue on the ER Shaw barrel. It looked OK, but a lighter matte finish than the reciever. Magnafying glass revealed tiny pitting in the metal. I put the rifle together , and it looked alright, but not great. Talked it over and decided to chuck it back in the lathe and run the 400 grit on it until it's shiny and start over. I was discussing it with the owner of th local funshop, and he gave me some sage advice; He said " at some point you should put it all together and make sure it shoots before you spend too much time making it pretty." I ignored him!
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Posted: 6/24/2012 12:09:50 AM EDT
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start with 400 grit spray some wd40 on the barrel while its in the lathe spining. then work the paper back and forth, then drop to 600 grit after cleaning everything off. best way is with a buffer and barrel spinner. use a set of brass center covers so you dont screw up teh crown and chamber.
Very nice job on the floor plate. |
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Posted: 6/24/2012 10:19:48 AM EDT
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Nice
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Posted: 6/24/2012 11:32:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
start with 400 grit spray some wd40 on the barrel while its in the lathe spining. then work the paper back and forth, then drop to 600 grit after cleaning everything off. best way is with a buffer and barrel spinner. use a set of brass center covers so you dont screw up teh crown and chamber. Very nice job on the floor plate. Almost exactly what we did! Only I didn't use WD or any oil, I'm trying to keep it oil free for the blue, and we had to go down to 120 and work back up. Once the blue was stripped, the matte finish was revealed by magnifying glass to be a uniform pitting and 400 only ran across the top of it. So a deep cut was neccesary to get rid of the pits, then 220, 320, 400, 600. The lathe is an awsome tool for barrel polishing!
Nieghbor had previously made a nice set of aluminum center covers for the profiling. So a do over for the barrel bluing, I'm going lighter on the blueing this time, and shorter rusts, hopefully avoiding my previous pitfalls....
Todays a perfect day, raining all day, so nice and humid for quick rusts without a cabinet. Thanks for the compliments! |
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Posted: 6/24/2012 10:25:59 PM EDT
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Ya know if you want, I'll hot blue it if you have it ready to dunk, and pay shipping. I'm getting ready to run a batch in a few weeks.
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Posted: 6/25/2012 8:59:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Ya know if you want, I'll hot blue it if you have it ready to dunk, and pay shipping. I'm getting ready to run a batch in a few weeks. Whaat! Stop pounding my head against the brick wall when I've almost pounded through?!
I might take that offer if I have another failure. I'm considering that I might need to change the water after every boil, it was looking good on the second effort, then got all spotty on the fourth rust. I'm going to give it one more go, I'd like to be able to say I did the whole thing at home and have a matching rust blue on the whole gun. Thank you very much though and I may take your offer yet.....
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Posted: 6/25/2012 10:25:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PR361:
Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Ya know if you want, I'll hot blue it if you have it ready to dunk, and pay shipping. I'm getting ready to run a batch in a few weeks. Whaat! Stop pounding my head against the brick wall when I've almost pounded through?!
I might take that offer if I have another failure. I'm considering that I might need to change the water after every boil, it was looking good on the second effort, then got all spotty on the fourth rust. I'm going to give it one more go, I'd like to be able to say I did the whole thing at home and have a matching rust blue on the whole gun. Thank you very much though and I may take your offer yet.....
We tried rust bluing on a few old double shotguns due to the low melting point solder that was used in barrel construction. always turned out meh. so we are at the point now we are quick dipping them in hot blue, then a pop into a cool water tank. then back in the blue. Its a PITA, but the finish looks so much better. |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 12:29:44 PM EDT
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Finally
 Attached FileA lot of repolishing, recleaning, and re-rusting, but I'm finally satisfied. It still has a slight fade at the chamber if you look close in strong light, but "goodnuff" for me, over all a nice dark black/blue, with a decent shine.[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" /> On to final assembly, once I'm happy that all is well and the action and barrel are prperly fitted, I'll order the reamer for final chamber reaming to headspace. It's currently a short chambered 6.5 X 55 Swede, it will be reamed to 6.5 X 55 BJ Ackley Improved. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2012 6:55:58 PM EDT
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Looking good. Can't wait to see it all together and how it shoots.
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Posted: 6/29/2012 11:14:45 PM EDT
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Okay, anybody with Mauser experience, chime in. I'm fitting the barrel, We cut to the internal barrel shoulder hitting with .0015 gap at the front shoulder for a crush fit with a kiss at the secondary shoulder. The crush didn't happen, at least not enough to close the gap. So we lapped the primary shoulder until the secondary shoulder would no longer accept a feeler guage. tiny pricks of ligh can be seen, but it is mostly kissed up to the outside of the reciever. The primary torque sholder looked like this.
After lapping, it looks the same, but 100% around the C Fo or no? I'm thinking it's good to go, the lock up is dead solid, no creep or twisting, you hit bottom and it's done, maybe a 1/16- 1/8 from initial contact to the finish line. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2012 10:46:06 AM EDT
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Have you squared the reciever face on a mandrel between centers? That needs to be done & might be the problem. I'm only talking about taking just enough from the face for it to clear up true .002 to .004 is usually enough.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 11:07:09 AM EDT
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All the parts have been trued on the lathe. I don't think there's a problem, I'm getting good contact on the C ring, I'm just asking if anybody with Mauser experience sees a problem that I'm missing before I lock this thing together permanently....
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ID, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2012 1:33:45 AM EDT
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Surprised with only 0.0015 gap it didn't close up. Have to ask, with that small a gap can you get a feeler gauge in there? If you have the gap at the front ring down to an amount that you want, you should be good to go to put the barrel on.
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Posted: 7/1/2012 10:32:14 AM EDT
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My Nieghbor Machinest turned a lapping mandrel for the end of the barrel and we lapped the contact area until we can no longer get a .001 feeler between the shoulder and the reciever, Getting good contact and good transfer of Dykem on the C-ring, no contact transfer on the shoulder, but no gap. I'm pretty sure that the front shulder is lightly contacting the reciever.
I think Im just going go with it and order the reamer
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Posted: 7/3/2012 11:33:06 PM EDT
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Few little odds and ends to finish up, Travel plans mean I wont have time to ream the chamber until the week of the 23rd, so I'm making sure everything else is finished.
This Rifle is going to hunt Antelope , so it needs to support a bipod. The sling swivle came with machined, knurled nuts to be countersunk in the barrel channel, but given the weight of this barrel and my previous experiences of abusing the equipment, I'm going a little heavier duty. I made a steel backer plate from some scrap tubing, getting the final shaping and inletting done. It will be blued, drilled and tapped to accept the machine screws that hold the front sling swivel, and epoxied in.  Attached FileLittle by little
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Posted: 7/5/2012 7:01:12 PM EDT
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Getting close!
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Posted: 7/8/2012 9:01:48 PM EDT
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Together Forever!
 Attached FileI hope!
I'm ordering the reamer the last week of July when I return from Vacation. Hopefully it's going BANG in August! |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 7/10/2012 10:45:30 PM EDT
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Won't you have to pull the barrel to chamber it?
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Posted: 7/11/2012 6:40:04 PM EDT
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It's already short chambered as a 6.5 X 55 Swede, I'm reaming to 6.5 X 55 BJ Ackley Improved, which is .004 shorter than the Swede, So hopefully, I'll just be opening the chamber and headspacing.
I'm still learning, so I might be in for a suprise!
But not a big deal to pull the barrel. |
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Posted: 7/26/2012 5:25:19 PM EDT
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Happy Mailbox Day!
( Lost photo of reamer ) 
Neighbor already invited me for Ribs n Beer, Wife's still visiting her mother with the kids...... Could be a Rifle tonight!
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