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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:26:48 PM EDT
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First company to get a K setup into my hands gets my money.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:27:39 PM EDT
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Looks good not my cup of tea, but looks very well thought out the integrated qd socket is nice to. I see it will utilize your proprietary rail as well on the sides. Nice product.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:34:20 PM EDT
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Is this aluminum?
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:36:21 PM EDT
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K price?
HBI has said well under $200 How about some sort of package deal on Black Friday with a collapsing stock! 
Mlok bottom to use a magpul mlok VFG? Mlok side cuts get my vote but I understand you have a proprietary design... |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:36:35 PM EDT
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Is there anyway to photoshop onto a Evo so we can get a better idea? I like it since it's similar to how the Bren is set up.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:39:01 PM EDT
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Is this aluminum? Weight? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there anyway to photoshop onto a Evo so we can get a better idea? QD socket is nice |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:40:43 PM EDT
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Is there anyway to photoshop onto a Evo so we can get a better idea? Not right now. This Bullnose model uses our Transformer panels and will come with a free set of Snakeskin polymer grip panels. It has an integral QD pocket on each size. The Kurz model is M-LOK. I am playing around a bit with the K model M-LOK and QD slot locations. If we go one M-LOK slot on each side we can get a QD pocket on each side, if we go with two M-LOK slots I can probably squeeze a QD socket bleow the M-LOK, but it won't look at pretty. 
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:41:23 PM EDT
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Is there anyway to photoshop onto a Evo so we can get a better idea? Let me see what I can do when I am in the shop tomorrow AM, have to leave in a few minutes (actually had to leave 40 minutes ago but wanted to get pics up) |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:42:29 PM EDT
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Is this aluminum? Yes, 6061 aluminum with type III milspec hardcoat. I will know pricing on the Bullnose and our standard Angled Front one tomorrow, the K I need a little time to crunch the numbers but it should be the same or less than the Bullnose and Angled. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:45:36 PM EDT
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Not right now. This Bullnose model uses our Transformer panels and will come with a free set of Snakeskin polymer grip panels. It has an integral QD pocket on each size. The Kurz model is M-LOK. I am playing around a bit with the K model M-LOK and QD slot locations. If we go one M-LOK slot on each side we can get a QD pocket on each side, if we go with two M-LOK slots I can probably squeeze a QD socket bleow the M-LOK, but it won't look at pretty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there anyway to photoshop onto a Evo so we can get a better idea? Not right now. This Bullnose model uses our Transformer panels and will come with a free set of Snakeskin polymer grip panels. It has an integral QD pocket on each size. The Kurz model is M-LOK. I am playing around a bit with the K model M-LOK and QD slot locations. If we go one M-LOK slot on each side we can get a QD pocket on each side, if we go with two M-LOK slots I can probably squeeze a QD socket bleow the M-LOK, but it won't look at pretty. Will you be able to add panels or something on the bottom to be able to attach vertical grips for us SBR guys? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:46:16 PM EDT
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K price? HBI has said well under $200 How about some sort of package deal on Black Friday with a collapsing stock!
Mlok bottom to use a magpul mlok VFG? Mlok side cuts get my vote but I understand you have a proprietary design... Our design allows you to add whatever system you want- Keymod, M-LOK, Picatnny, or grip panels. We are even working on a handstop panel and a vertical froegrip that integrates right in.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:47:52 PM EDT
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Will you be able to add panels or something on the bottom to be able to attach vertical grips for us SBR guys? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there anyway to photoshop onto a Evo so we can get a better idea? Not right now. This Bullnose model uses our Transformer panels and will come with a free set of Snakeskin polymer grip panels. It has an integral QD pocket on each size. The Kurz model is M-LOK. I am playing around a bit with the K model M-LOK and QD slot locations. If we go one M-LOK slot on each side we can get a QD pocket on each side, if we go with two M-LOK slots I can probably squeeze a QD socket bleow the M-LOK, but it won't look at pretty. Will you be able to add panels or something on the bottom to be able to attach vertical grips for us SBR guys? In a word, yes. You can put any Transformer Panel for any mounting system you want on the Bullnose one. For the Kurz you can just use a standard M-LOK grip. Just got the pics up and you can see how I am playing around with optimal location and number of M-LOK slots on the sides and underside, and possible QD mounting points. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:13:10 PM EDT
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Not right now. This Bullnose model uses our Transformer panels and will come with a free set of Snakeskin polymer grip panels. It has an integral QD pocket on each size. The Kurz model is M-LOK. I am playing around a bit with the K model M-LOK and QD slot locations. If we go one M-LOK slot on each side we can get a QD pocket on each side, if we go with two M-LOK slots I can probably squeeze a QD socket bleow the M-LOK, but it won't look at pretty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there anyway to photoshop onto a Evo so we can get a better idea? Not right now. This Bullnose model uses our Transformer panels and will come with a free set of Snakeskin polymer grip panels. It has an integral QD pocket on each size. The Kurz model is M-LOK. I am playing around a bit with the K model M-LOK and QD slot locations. If we go one M-LOK slot on each side we can get a QD pocket on each side, if we go with two M-LOK slots I can probably squeeze a QD socket bleow the M-LOK, but it won't look at pretty. One mlok and the socket 
Or one and the socket and a second mlok slot above it on the 45* angle. Or some slot for cooling. You can probably say better than I, how hot will these get when run suppressed? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:50:31 PM EDT
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Taggage
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Posted: 10/27/2016 9:18:58 PM EDT
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i like the idea... I'm anxious to see the finished product.
Kind of wish it was going to be milled from polymer rather than aluminum though... I hate aluminum handguards. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:15:24 PM EDT
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Those look great, Sven! Thanks for developing these, I hope they sell as well as your Tavor accessories.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:47:36 PM EDT
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I'm in for one Sven. About time too,
I have been wanting a railed forend with a straight flat front. Edit: Not a fan of the logo on it, but I could overlook that if I had to. We all know where the good stuff is coming from. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:03:31 PM EDT
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Nope i like the original design. Now finish it up so I can buy one.
Eta? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:28:25 PM EDT
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OST for pics!
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:54:22 PM EDT
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Sven, you ROCK. I've been nagging / begging for the full length top rail pretty much since aftermarket hardguards started coming out. I'll be buying one on DAY ONE. take my money!!!
Comments: 1. What's the bottom look like? I want to add a vfg handstop down there (molot), and mine is pic rail style...trying to make the pic below a reality. Kinda need the bottom rail to go as far forward as possible. Hopefully it it's transformer style on the bottom it's possible to attach a pic rail so there's pic slots as far forward as possible... 2. Cooling slots on the angled parts between the top/sides? That'd be awesome...sorta like the Bren has i suppose.  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 6:56:12 AM EDT
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Sven, you ROCK. I've been nagging / begging for the full length top rail pretty much since aftermarket hardguards started coming out. I'll be buying one on DAY ONE. take my money!!! Comments: 1. What's the bottom look like? I want to add a vfg handstop down there (molot), and mine is pic rail style...trying to make the pic below a reality. Kinda need the bottom rail to go as far forward as possible. Hopefully it it's transformer style on the bottom it's possible to attach a pic rail so there's pic slots as far forward as possible... 2. Cooling slots on the angled parts between the top/sides? That'd be awesome...sorta like the Bren has i suppose. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jekbrown/Evo%201%20S2k_zpshduryl1r.jpg Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bottom will look just like the side on the Bullnose- Transformer Panel, so you can put the vfg on with no problem. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 9:17:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2016 10:47:14 AM EDT
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Sven, you ROCK. I've been nagging / begging for the full length top rail pretty much since aftermarket hardguards started coming out. I'll be buying one on DAY ONE. take my money!!! Comments: 1. What's the bottom look like? I want to add a vfg handstop down there (molot), and mine is pic rail style...trying to make the pic below a reality. Kinda need the bottom rail to go as far forward as possible. Hopefully it it's transformer style on the bottom it's possible to attach a pic rail so there's pic slots as far forward as possible... 2. Cooling slots on the angled parts between the top/sides? That'd be awesome...sorta like the Bren has i suppose. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jekbrown/Evo%201%20S2k_zpshduryl1r.jpg Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Geez man it took you long enough to join us in here .
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Posted: 10/28/2016 11:31:21 AM EDT
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Scorpion EVO with slider stock and OEM forend <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/Scorpion%20Stock%20Version%203%20FInal_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/Scorpion%20Stock%20Version%203%20FInal_1.jpg</a> Scorpion EVO with slider stock and Bullnose forend <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/Scorpion%20Bullnose%20forend.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/Scorpion%20Bullnose%20forend.jpg</a> Scorpion EVO with slider stock and Kurz forend <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/Scorpion%20Kurz%20forend%202.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/Scorpion%20Kurz%20forend%202.jpg</a>  
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Posted: 10/28/2016 2:03:48 PM EDT
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Geez man it took you long enough to join us in here .Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sven, you ROCK. I've been nagging / begging for the full length top rail pretty much since aftermarket hardguards started coming out. I'll be buying one on DAY ONE. take my money!!! Comments: 1. What's the bottom look like? I want to add a vfg handstop down there (molot), and mine is pic rail style...trying to make the pic below a reality. Kinda need the bottom rail to go as far forward as possible. Hopefully it it's transformer style on the bottom it's possible to attach a pic rail so there's pic slots as far forward as possible... 2. Cooling slots on the angled parts between the top/sides? That'd be awesome...sorta like the Bren has i suppose. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jekbrown/Evo%201%20S2k_zpshduryl1r.jpg Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Geez man it took you long enough to join us in here .lol, I haven't been following the pcc subforum much lately. I'm subscribed to the main Evo thread but I pretty much stumbled upon this thread by accident. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 9:43:56 PM EDT
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Sven, you ROCK. I've been nagging / begging for the full length top rail pretty much since aftermarket hardguards started coming out. I'll be buying one on DAY ONE. take my money!!! Comments: 1. What's the bottom look like? I want to add a vfg handstop down there (molot), and mine is pic rail style...trying to make the pic below a reality. Kinda need the bottom rail to go as far forward as possible. Hopefully it it's transformer style on the bottom it's possible to attach a pic rail so there's pic slots as far forward as possible... 2. Cooling slots on the angled parts between the top/sides? That'd be awesome...sorta like the Bren has i suppose. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jekbrown/Evo%201%20S2k_zpshduryl1r.jpg Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Which vert grip / handstop combo is that in this photo? |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 10:11:34 PM EDT
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It's from Molot. Imported straight from Russia! Sweet grip. Two pic crossbolts, and lots of rail engagement so it's really sturdy.I cut the bottom inch off mine and then added my own stippling. Can't wait to try it with this handguard. Should be very mp5k-ish.
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Posted: 10/29/2016 10:22:28 AM EDT
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Do these use the standard mount for the hand guards on the scorpion?
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Posted: 10/31/2016 9:57:35 AM EDT
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Do these use the standard mount for the hand guards on the scorpion? NO, we have a mounting block that clamps around the base of the barrel and not only allows you to ditch the kind of sukcy OEM mounting setup, but also allows the whole barrel to free float. 
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Posted: 10/31/2016 10:10:40 AM EDT
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CC is ready: how long until I can order?
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Posted: 10/31/2016 12:08:52 PM EDT
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CC is ready: how long until I can order?
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I am prepping the files for the machines today. Should be running in the next week or two if all goes to plan. Figure roughly 45-60 days on the Bullnose and Kurz, one will be ready before the other. Sven |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 12:27:08 PM EDT
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ok cool. who knows, if I'm REALLY lucky maybe my stamp will come in and I can order the slider stock at the same time. Thanks again Sven!
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Posted: 10/31/2016 1:12:56 PM EDT
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ok cool. who knows, if I'm REALLY lucky maybe my stamp will come in and I can order the slider stock at the same time. Thanks again Sven! Exactly I'm buying a stock on Black Friday, regardless of the Feds |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 1:27:48 PM EDT
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I like the way you guys think!
...and slider stocks should be back in stock by end of November if all goes to plan.
Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 3:56:34 PM EDT
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I like the way you guys think!
...and slider stocks should be back in stock by end of November if all goes to plan.
Sven Manticore Arms And if it's not, you're going to let us backorder, right? |
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Posted: 11/1/2016 1:49:25 AM EDT
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I like the way you guys think!
...and slider stocks should be back in stock by end of November if all goes to plan.
Sven Manticore Arms And if it's not, you're going to let us backorder, right? We don't do backorders, sorry. |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 2:43:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2016 4:55:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2016 5:46:15 PM EDT
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Here are some pics with actual parts on the gun: Bullnose (I actually really like how this turned out!) <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/bullnose%201.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/bullnose%201.jpg</a> Just as glorious as I hoped! Niiiice. Can't wait! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 6:13:23 PM EDT
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Just as glorious as I hoped! Niiiice. Can't wait! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here are some pics with actual parts on the gun: Bullnose (I actually really like how this turned out!) <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/bullnose%201.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/bullnose%201.jpg</a> Just as glorious as I hoped! Niiiice. Can't wait! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I gotta admit it...you were right! It looks great.
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Posted: 11/2/2016 7:27:36 PM EDT
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Oh you! I have one more thing on my list to buy now. ????
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Posted: 11/3/2016 12:16:01 AM EDT
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Here are some pics with actual parts on the gun: Bullnose (I actually really like how this turned out!) <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/bullnose%201.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/bullnose%201.jpg</a> There we go! That looks solid. |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 2:54:15 AM EDT
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hey Sven, if you get bored in the shop could you put your slider on the bullnose evo with a m-lok transferformer rail and take a pic?
I think that's gonna be the end-all-be-all set up (for me anyway).
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Posted: 11/3/2016 12:13:12 PM EDT
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Kurz with barrel chopped 2.5" and threaded 1/2x28 tpi, and with a slider stock. That is a badass little package right there.
<a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/kurz%203%20slider.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/kurz%203%20slider.jpg</a> Is this the final iteration? Two mlok slots and no sling socket? |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 6:50:21 PM EDT
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Kurz with barrel chopped 2.5" and threaded 1/2x28 tpi, and with a slider stock. That is a badass little package right there.
<a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/kurz%203%20slider.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/kurz%203%20slider.jpg</a> Is this the final iteration? Two mlok slots and no sling socket? Yes that is the final design of the Kurz. We can either do two m-lok slots or an m-lok slot and a qd pocket. We reasoned that with that short of a gun most people are going to run a single point sling, and if they really want a foratd sling point they can us an m-lok mountable qd pocket. |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 8:25:01 PM EDT
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Yes that is the final design of the Kurz. We can either do two m-lok slots or an m-lok slot and a qd pocket. We reasoned that with that short of a gun most people are going to run a single point sling, and if they really want a foratd sling point they can us an m-lok mountable qd pocket. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kurz with barrel chopped 2.5" and threaded 1/2x28 tpi, and with a slider stock. That is a badass little package right there.
<a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/kurz%203%20slider.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/kurz%203%20slider.jpg</a> Is this the final iteration? Two mlok slots and no sling socket? Yes that is the final design of the Kurz. We can either do two m-lok slots or an m-lok slot and a qd pocket. We reasoned that with that short of a gun most people are going to run a single point sling, and if they really want a foratd sling point they can us an m-lok mountable qd pocket. 
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Posted: 11/3/2016 8:35:03 PM EDT
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hey Sven, if you get bored in the shop could you put your slider on the bullnose evo with a m-lok transferformer rail and take a pic? I think that's gonna be the end-all-be-all set up (for me anyway).Will try to get you a pic tomorrow.
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Posted: 11/3/2016 11:47:10 PM EDT
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Here are some pics with actual parts on the gun: Bullnose (I actually really like how this turned out!) <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/bullnose%201.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/bullnose%201.jpg</a> When will that brace become available for sale? |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 10:30:33 AM EDT
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That mp5 folding brace looks awesome. When will that be available?
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