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Posted: 6/5/2016 5:40:36 AM EDT
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Fresh off the truck, Trying to decide if the trigger pack is welded or not. Do they paint over the weld, top of the spacer? All I need now is for a package from HB Industries to show up. MRO red dot on it at the moment. <a href="http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/heavybombers/media/2016-06-01_zpsk57ni9wp.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah297/heavybombers/2016-06-01_zpsk57ni9wp.jpg</a> |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 6:41:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: anyonw pulled the fake can off yet? Would love to see pics of what's underneath. My local shop has one on the shelf, but I'm not sure I want to bother with it if it's 18x1 threads only. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fresh off the truck, Trying to decide if the trigger pack is welded or not. Do they paint over the weld, top of the spacer? All I need now is for a package from HB Industries to show up. MRO red dot on it at the moment. <a href="http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/heavybombers/media/2016-06-01_zpsk57ni9wp.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah297/heavybombers/2016-06-01_zpsk57ni9wp.jpg</a> Stripping the entire thing down is top of my list Monday. I'll grab some photos of the barrel/can setup. Ran mine in a small carbine match today. Ton of fun. Optic height was perfect and it's a really accurate shooter. Going to do a complete tear down because I'm contemplating duracoating it. Colors I'm looking at; Czech Republic Dark Brown, ACU Deep Gray Green, Tungsten, or German Flecktarn Gray. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 10:16:43 PM EDT
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Do want. What's a 16 inch brl do for the 9mm balistic profile? Is there a known help vs hinder length?
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Posted: 6/6/2016 2:46:52 AM EDT
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anyonw pulled the fake can off yet? Would love to see pics of what's underneath. My local shop has one on the shelf, but I'm not sure I want to bother with it if it's 18x1 threads only. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fresh off the truck, Trying to decide if the trigger pack is welded or not. Do they paint over the weld, top of the spacer? All I need now is for a package from HB Industries to show up. MRO red dot on it at the moment. <a href="http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/heavybombers/media/2016-06-01_zpsk57ni9wp.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah297/heavybombers/2016-06-01_zpsk57ni9wp.jpg</a> No-octane model is just a sleeve. short 1/2x28" threads under. I put a comp on mine. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 10:34:47 AM EDT
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Do want. What's a 16 inch brl do for the 9mm balistic profile? Is there a known help vs hinder length? It's been tested before, you can google it. It can add some velocity to many 9mm loads. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 11:08:37 AM EDT
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No-octane model is just a sleeve. short 1/2x28" threads under. I put a comp on mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fresh off the truck, Trying to decide if the trigger pack is welded or not. Do they paint over the weld, top of the spacer? All I need now is for a package from HB Industries to show up. MRO red dot on it at the moment. <a href="http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/heavybombers/media/2016-06-01_zpsk57ni9wp.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah297/heavybombers/2016-06-01_zpsk57ni9wp.jpg</a> No-octane model is just a sleeve. short 1/2x28" threads under. I put a comp on mine. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 12:25:34 PM EDT
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Do want. What's a 16 inch brl do for the 9mm balistic profile? Is there a known help vs hinder length? http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/9mm.html Not sure of the unit of measure they are using for the chart but tis' an extra 200 something. (Either m/s or ft/s) And the muzzle energy is an extra 100 ft-lbs or more for most of the rounds when comparing 4" vs 16" gun. Makes it about on par with a 357 magnum out of a 3" barrel given a similar bullet weight. Those are gross generalizations though. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 12:35:33 PM EDT
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Nice! That rear QD mount looks like something I need. I'd also suggest the HB industries refresh pack, or another trigger pack screw replacement. The stock 2mm hex nut strips like it's a top heavy blonde working her way through college. I have the springs sitting on my kitchen table I just need to drill out the screw weld. I also have a replacement screw for the trigger housing because I figuring driling out the weld will wreck that screw. As far as the QD mount I like it but part of me wants the one he makes that mount a bit forward of the hole. This one is close enough to the rear sight that the sling gets in the way of the cheek weld. I don' t know if moving it a few milimeters forward is really going to change that but part of me wants to try it. |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 2:56:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As far as the QD mount I like it but part of me wants the one he makes that mount a bit forward of the hole. This one is close enough to the rear sight that the sling gets in the way of the cheek weld. I don' t know if moving it a few milimeters forward is really going to change that but part of me wants to try it. I'll give that option a try. Thanks. Time to convince one of these aftermarket outfits to make a carbine barrel nut tool. |
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Posted: 6/7/2016 9:52:44 AM EDT
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Ugh... seriously debating which one to go with now... Carbine or Pistol.
I wouldn't be SBRing either, at least not for a long time. The carbine - with folding stock and longer handguard - is just plain awesome. But I'll be adding a suppressor to the 16" barrel. I won't be clearing any houses with it, but I might get tired of the length. That, and if Fiocchi 158s end up going super out of the longer barrel then I'd be SOL. The lack of a special tool to swap the barrel doesn't bother me in the short term - I could wait for something down the road if I ever decided to SBR it. Pistol on the other hand needs a buffer tub adapter and a Shockwave brace before I'd even shoot it (folding buffer adapter is $$$). But it would be nice and short w/ the can on it. And cheaper. |
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Posted: 6/7/2016 10:19:58 AM EDT
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Ugh... seriously debating which one to go with now... Carbine or Pistol. I wouldn't be SBRing either, at least not for a long time. The carbine - with folding stock and longer handguard - is just plain awesome. But I'll be adding a suppressor to the 16" barrel. I won't be clearing any houses with it, but I might get tired of the length. That, and if Fiocchi 158s end up going super out of the longer barrel then I'd be SOL. The lack of a special tool to swap the barrel doesn't bother me in the short term - I could wait for something down the road if I ever decided to SBR it. Pistol on the other hand needs a buffer tub adapter and a Shockwave brace before I'd even shoot it (folding buffer adapter is $$$). But it would be nice and short w/ the can on it. And cheaper. Get the carbine, chop the barrel when you decide to SBR. |
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Posted: 6/7/2016 9:58:39 PM EDT
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Get the carbine, chop the barrel when you decide to SBR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ugh... seriously debating which one to go with now... Carbine or Pistol. I wouldn't be SBRing either, at least not for a long time. The carbine - with folding stock and longer handguard - is just plain awesome. But I'll be adding a suppressor to the 16" barrel. I won't be clearing any houses with it, but I might get tired of the length. That, and if Fiocchi 158s end up going super out of the longer barrel then I'd be SOL. The lack of a special tool to swap the barrel doesn't bother me in the short term - I could wait for something down the road if I ever decided to SBR it. Pistol on the other hand needs a buffer tub adapter and a Shockwave brace before I'd even shoot it (folding buffer adapter is $$$). But it would be nice and short w/ the can on it. And cheaper. Get the carbine, chop the barrel when you decide to SBR. As a carbine owner I would very much recommend this. The carbine is a hoot as it is. |
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Posted: 6/11/2016 9:50:28 PM EDT
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Does anyone know if they will be available in the FDE finish like the Bren? I would definitely have to buy one of those. Might end up buying one regardless, but I think the Scorpion in that finish would be pretty cool.
EDIT: I just saw where the pistol is available in FDE, so I'm assuming this will trickle down to the carbine version? |
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Posted: 6/13/2016 1:14:46 PM EDT
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Does anyone know if they will be available in the FDE finish like the Bren? I would definitely have to buy one of those. Might end up buying one regardless, but I think the Scorpion in that finish would be pretty cool. EDIT: I just saw where the pistol is available in FDE, so I'm assuming this will trickle down to the carbine version? Might trickle down. No guarntees. Even if it does it will take a while (like 2017) seeing as the carbines just finally came out and are still in short supply. |
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Posted: 6/13/2016 9:03:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Might trickle down. No guarntees. Even if it does it will take a while (like 2017) seeing as the carbines just finally came out and are still in short supply. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does anyone know if they will be available in the FDE finish like the Bren? I would definitely have to buy one of those. Might end up buying one regardless, but I think the Scorpion in that finish would be pretty cool. EDIT: I just saw where the pistol is available in FDE, so I'm assuming this will trickle down to the carbine version? Might trickle down. No guarntees. Even if it does it will take a while (like 2017) seeing as the carbines just finally came out and are still in short supply. |
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Posted: 6/13/2016 9:21:47 PM EDT
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who has the best price on these now?
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Posted: 6/16/2016 2:06:25 PM EDT
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Vid from CZ's FB https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NqiEB-l5-Kc
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Posted: 6/16/2016 2:36:07 PM EDT
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Picked mine up yesterday. It's pretty fuckin' sweet.
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Posted: 6/16/2016 5:03:25 PM EDT
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Picked mine up yesterday. It's pretty fuckin' sweet. Where? Or which distributor? CZ posted on their FB and Instagram that they are cranking them out but none of my LGSs can find any. |
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Posted: 6/16/2016 6:16:59 PM EDT
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Called and ordered direct from CZ.
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Posted: 6/16/2016 8:34:50 PM EDT
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I stopped by a local shop today after work and asked the guy at the counter about them. He said they haven't seen any yet and have some on order, but didn't have an ETA yet.
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Posted: 6/16/2016 11:55:37 PM EDT
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FWIW, my supplier said there was going to be another wave come in.
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Posted: 6/17/2016 12:23:48 AM EDT
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Called and ordered direct from CZ. What's their price, if you don't mind? Any info on their stock? I want to try to order one in the next few days... |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 8:11:28 AM EDT
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My local fun shop has my name on a list..............when they come in I shall have one
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:39:52 AM EDT
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Just ordered one from Kentucky Gun Co. $1021 shipped.... The version with the faux suppressor, which their site shows they have in stock.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 10:42:30 AM EDT
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It's been tested before, you can google it. It can add some velocity to many 9mm loads. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do want. What's a 16 inch brl do for the 9mm balistic profile? Is there a known help vs hinder length? It's been tested before, you can google it. It can add some velocity to many 9mm loads. Lighter bullets seem to be affected by barrel length more than heavies. I've chrono'd 115 fmj Power Pistol loads that were over 1500 fps IIRC |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 7:24:27 PM EDT
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I bought one yesterday online at a shop an hour away for 899.00
Go get it tomorrow. 899.00 at The Marksman in Puyallup WA if interested in that price http://themarksman.net/shop/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=scorpion&product_id=3039 Not sure if my Link Fu is any good. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 1:08:47 AM EDT
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Your Link Fu is very strong, but they are out of stock.
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Posted: 6/20/2016 1:34:43 AM EDT
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Your Link Fu is very strong, but they are out of stock. I got one before they ran out. Thanks Mauritius! |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 2:08:00 AM EDT
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Yeah, I'd have jumped on that to save $100, but I'm not upset at the price I paid. I'll be happy (for everyone else) if they start showing up in stock for $900 or less. The more the merrier!
Now I'm going to start looking at mods and mags. Mags first. I figure in a couple weeks I'll order 10 of the 30 rounders. For optics, I'm just going to slap my Lucid M7 on it. Not sure I'll ever want/need anything more than that. I do want to change the pistol grip, the safety selector, maybe the charging handle and mag catch. Possibly the trigger later on. Will need to start on the Form 1 ASAP, tho. I hope I like this carbine as much as people say they like theirs! |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 1:06:42 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'd have jumped on that to save $100, but I'm not upset at the price I paid. I'll be happy (for everyone else) if they start showing up in stock for $900 or less. The more the merrier! Now I'm going to start looking at mods and mags. Mags first. I figure in a couple weeks I'll order 10 of the 30 rounders. For optics, I'm just going to slap my Lucid M7 on it. Not sure I'll ever want/need anything more than that. I do want to change the pistol grip, the safety selector, maybe the charging handle and mag catch. Possibly the trigger later on. Will need to start on the Form 1 ASAP, tho. I hope I like this carbine as much as people say they like theirs! If for some reason you hate it you can sell it right now and get at least what you paid for it if not more. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 1:07:32 PM EDT
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I bought one yesterday online at a shop an hour away for 899.00
Go get it tomorrow. 899.00 at The Marksman in Puyallup WA if interested in that price http://themarksman.net/shop/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=scorpion&product_id=3039 Not sure if my Link Fu is any good. Where was that info when I was looking 3 weeks ago, I live in seattle. I'd have driven there to save myself the extra $100 |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 11:06:43 AM EDT
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Just picked one up, the version with the muzzle brake instead of the aluminum faux can, now I just need time off work to enjoy it
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Posted: 6/22/2016 1:40:39 PM EDT
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Just picked one up, the version with the muzzle brake instead of the aluminum faux can, now I just need time off work to enjoy it Where? None of my local shops can even find one. |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 1:53:38 PM EDT
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There's a few on gunbroker if you keep your eye open. I'm patiently waiting for mine to get here so I can form 1 it. Don't want to hijack this thread but the previous pictures of the disassembly spurred a few questions. What size is the barrel nut? I had the idea of cutting a socket in half and welding pipe between the halves to make a sort of super deep dish socket. Other question is what works the oal on a form 1 be with the barrel recessed in the handguard? Anyway wanted to get this stuff figured out so I can get the form on its way.
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Posted: 6/22/2016 8:24:32 PM EDT
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CZ Custom sells a socket for the Scorpion. They do not list the size, but I imagine somebody in the Scorpion Pistol thread knows.
http://czcustom.com/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1/cz-evo-barrel-nut-socket.html If somebody knocks out a viable tool, make two. I'll buy the other  |
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Posted: 6/22/2016 10:07:10 PM EDT
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CZ Custom sells a socket for the Scorpion. They do not list the size, but I imagine somebody in the Scorpion Pistol thread knows. http://czcustom.com/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1/cz-evo-barrel-nut-socket.html If somebody knocks out a viable tool, make two. I'll buy the other Looks like a chopped spark plug socket might work? |
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Posted: 6/24/2016 11:52:45 AM EDT
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Picked my carbine up today. Damn, I like it. Feels great to me. A bit heavier than I expected it to feel, but that really lends to how solid it feels. This thing feels like you could club a seal with it and not even scratch it.
The trigger doesn't feel great, but I'm betting a little break in will help. I like the way the stock comes off... that would lead to very easy replacement for other options, although the stock works perfectly fine as it is. Now I start hunting for magazines. I'll also be looking to get some aftermarket parts on it as well! Figure I'll start the SBR process soon, too. |
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Posted: 6/26/2016 7:04:59 PM EDT
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Picked up my carbine yesterday without fake can shooting 100 yds with magnified optic under 2 inch groups with federal 115 gr. I love this Carbine it is much better than expected, it feels perfect. My mega 556 and 300 blk just went to the back of the safe
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Posted: 6/26/2016 8:13:09 PM EDT
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Mine with the standard barrel just joined his little brother. Yet to shoot it though. Mine had the welded trigger pack and the bolt with the extra cut in the top, compared to my first batch pistol (sbr).
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Posted: 6/27/2016 11:23:54 AM EDT
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Mine with the standard barrel just joined his little brother. Yet to shoot it though. Mine had the welded trigger pack and the bolt with the extra cut in the top, compared to my first batch pistol (sbr). https://s6.postimg.org/56x3nyytd/IMG_1494.jpg Awesome. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 1:32:23 PM EDT
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I fondled both versions at my LGS. I like the looks of the faux suppressor, but it is slightly more nose heavy. I think I still prefer it. All around, a very good feeling gun.
My question - can it be fired with the stock in the folded position? I noticed the folded stock partially blocks the ejection port. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:48:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I fondled both versions at my LGS. I like the looks of the faux suppressor, but it is slightly more nose heavy. I think I still prefer it. All around, a very good feeling gun. My question - can it be fired with the stock in the folded position? I noticed the folded stock partially blocks the ejection port. I popped off a couple of rounds with it folded just to have done it. Wasn't an issue. It's only the bottom edge that's covered. |
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