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Posted: 10/8/2015 3:17:36 PM EDT
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You fucker. I rushed to the cz web store before I clicked the thread. :(
The ebay seller is already sold out. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 3:19:01 PM EDT
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You fucker. I rushed to the cz web store before I clicked the thread. :( The ebay seller is already sold out. They sold out in 20 minutes |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 5:03:40 PM EDT
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I'm anxious for a stock too, but I'm going to wait for the metal mount version.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 7:00:43 PM EDT
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Why would anyone rush to get these 2nd rate plastic mount stocks at $165?
 The "real" stocks will be here soon.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 7:02:15 PM EDT
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Why would anyone rush to get these 2nd rate plastic mount stocks at $165? The "real" stocks will be here soon.Those are real stocks
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Posted: 10/8/2015 7:08:06 PM EDT
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Why would anyone rush to get these 2nd rate plastic mount stocks at $165? The "real" stocks will be here soon.Those are real stocks Yeah, real as in real plastic joint.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 7:12:49 PM EDT
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Why would anyone rush to get these 2nd rate plastic mount stocks at $165? The "real" stocks will be here soon.Those are real stocks Yeah, real as in real plastic joint. Does that make it not "real"? What do you plan on doing with it that would break it? |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 7:15:42 PM EDT
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Does that make it not "real"? What do you plan on doing with it that would break it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would anyone rush to get these 2nd rate plastic mount stocks at $165? The "real" stocks will be here soon.Those are real stocks Yeah, real as in real plastic joint. Does that make it not "real"? What do you plan on doing with it that would break it? Why pay full price for a plastic hinge stock? These are not as will be released by CZ. Hopefully they aren't just more air soft stocks for those who rushed to buy them. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 7:19:43 PM EDT
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Why pay full price for a plastic hinge stock? These are not as will be released by CZ. Hopefully they aren't just more air soft stocks for those who rushed to buy them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would anyone rush to get these 2nd rate plastic mount stocks at $165? The "real" stocks will be here soon.Those are real stocks Yeah, real as in real plastic joint. Does that make it not "real"? What do you plan on doing with it that would break it? Why pay full price for a plastic hinge stock? These are not as will be released by CZ. Hopefully they aren't just more air soft stocks for those who rushed to buy them. These were released by CZ. Have you been seeing reports of them breaking under normal use? |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:14:02 PM EDT
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Why would anyone rush to get these 2nd rate plastic mount stocks at $165? The "real" stocks will be here soon."soon" |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:57:20 PM EDT
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No reports needed. I'll wait for the much stronger metal hinge, rubber buttpad, and magnet for closing stock.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:59:04 PM EDT
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Looking forward to the real thing.....
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:50:22 PM EDT
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Any regulations on buying gun parts out of country? I know there is for me sending them out of country.
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Posted: 10/10/2015 5:55:21 AM EDT
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My real OEM polymer stock works great.. Why all these complains?!
ETA: I'm inEU and been using the Evo since 2013 |
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Posted: 10/10/2015 8:59:49 AM EDT
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I had the airsoft stock and sold it for $100. I'll wait for my $149 922r kit.
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Posted: 10/10/2015 4:41:11 PM EDT
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My real OEM polymer stock works great.. Why all these complains?!
ETA: I'm inEU and been using the Evo since 2013 the person in question complains about many things... |
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Posted: 10/15/2015 5:16:18 PM EDT
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6 days from purchase and I have my "second rate" "not real" real CZ Scorpion Evo S1 stock straight from the Czech Republic.
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Posted: 10/15/2015 6:13:54 PM EDT
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What is the length of the stock fully collapsed? Looks great!
Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/15/2015 7:03:56 PM EDT
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6 days from purchase and I have my "second rate" "not real" real CZ Scorpion Evo S1 stock straight from the Czech Republic. http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt105/joeh177/20151015_153524_zpsxcyaplwt.jpg http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt105/joeh177/20151015_155743-1_zpsrxp8rlfg.jpg http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt105/joeh177/1444942309688_zpsa1pyyxuz.jpg Fantastic. Cannot wait for my Form 1 to get approved. Now, if I could just decide on an optic for this thing........ |
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Posted: 10/15/2015 7:10:50 PM EDT
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What is the length of the stock fully collapsed? Looks great! Thanks. 9" |
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Posted: 10/15/2015 7:11:31 PM EDT
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It is solid and high quality
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Posted: 10/15/2015 10:02:01 PM EDT
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Looks great.
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Posted: 10/16/2015 3:09:43 AM EDT
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Yeah it's rock solid, I love mine.
The only thing I dont really like is that in order to block it in the folded position it must be fully collapsed. I guess it's not an issue for those wearing body armor for work. ETA: interesting they're still selling the Gen1. I've seen Gen2 stocks only on full auto guns |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:08:30 AM EDT
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Wish I would have gotten in on this. My form 1 has been approved for 6 months.
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Posted: 10/16/2015 11:14:39 AM EDT
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The new version stocks with metal mounts, rubber buttpad, and magnet are where it's at. There almost here according to CZ. Good things come to those who wait!
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Posted: 10/16/2015 11:53:06 AM EDT
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The new version stocks with metal mounts, rubber buttpad, and magnet are where it's at. There almost here according to CZ. Good things come to those who wait! Good things already came yesterday |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 11:59:17 AM EDT
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I will probably try to grab one of the new stocks even though I don't have an Evo yet. It seems like one of those things that can vanish shortly after it appears for sale.
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Posted: 10/16/2015 1:27:31 PM EDT
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I will probably try to grab one of the new stocks even though I don't have an Evo yet. It seems like one of those things that can vanish shortly after it appears for sale. Im expecting to see a lot of the kits on gunbroker within 24 hours of the release for $350-400. I probably wont be able to get one in the first batch seeing my luck with mags, but I can wait. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 1:48:57 PM EDT
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Im expecting to see a lot of the kits on gunbroker within 24 hours of the release for $350-400. I probably wont be able to get one in the first batch seeing my luck with mags, but I can wait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will probably try to grab one of the new stocks even though I don't have an Evo yet. It seems like one of those things that can vanish shortly after it appears for sale. Im expecting to see a lot of the kits on gunbroker within 24 hours of the release for $350-400. I probably wont be able to get one in the first batch seeing my luck with mags, but I can wait. My guess is CZ will have a purchase one only limit on the kits when they are released. They have limited mag quantities also in the past. Edit: Just checked and CZ has mags in stock but limit 4 per order. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 6:12:53 PM EDT
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Check Greg Cote often. They have a limit of twelve on the magazines.
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:06:59 PM EDT
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The new version stocks with metal mounts, rubber buttpad, and magnet are where it's at. There almost here according to CZ. Good things come to those who wait! Good things already came yesterday Enjoy it but MUCH better versions are almost here.... for the same pricing structure... and come with compliance. It seems silly to wait all this time... and then go with an all plastic version right before the good stuff hits. The stocks are also going to be WAY WAY easier to obtain than the mags were. Everyone with a Scorpion wants mags but only a small fraction have an SBR. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:18:57 PM EDT
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Enjoy it but MUCH better versions are almost here.... for the same pricing structure... and come with compliance. It seems silly to wait all this time... and then go with an all plastic version right before the good stuff hits. The stocks are also going to be WAY WAY easier to obtain than the mags were. Everyone with a Scorpion wants mags but only a small fraction have an SBR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The new version stocks with metal mounts, rubber buttpad, and magnet are where it's at. There almost here according to CZ. Good things come to those who wait! Good things already came yesterday Enjoy it but MUCH better versions are almost here.... for the same pricing structure... and come with compliance. It seems silly to wait all this time... and then go with an all plastic version right before the good stuff hits. The stocks are also going to be WAY WAY easier to obtain than the mags were. Everyone with a Scorpion wants mags but only a small fraction have an SBR. I disagree on it being a much better version. The magnet and rubber but pad don't really constitute an improvement in my opinion. I haven't seen this metal hinge or how it is even attached to the buttstock. It could make a weak point compared to a solid one piece. I mean the entire gun is plastic. I know metal is stronger than plastic but the plastic still is attached to the metal and I could see that as being a weak point. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 12:54:15 AM EDT
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Has anyone checked with CzechPoint USA on the stocks?
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Posted: 10/17/2015 3:20:58 AM EDT
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Enjoy it but MUCH better versions are almost here.... for the same pricing structure... and come with compliance. It seems silly to wait all this time... and then go with an all plastic version right before the good stuff hits. The stocks are also going to be WAY WAY easier to obtain than the mags were. Everyone with a Scorpion wants mags but only a small fraction have an SBR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The new version stocks with metal mounts, rubber buttpad, and magnet are where it's at. There almost here according to CZ. Good things come to those who wait! Good things already came yesterday Enjoy it but MUCH better versions are almost here.... for the same pricing structure... and come with compliance. It seems silly to wait all this time... and then go with an all plastic version right before the good stuff hits. The stocks are also going to be WAY WAY easier to obtain than the mags were. Everyone with a Scorpion wants mags but only a small fraction have an SBR. Have you ever tried to break a solid piece of PA6/PA66 filled filled with fiberglass? Just curious.. I did since Iworked in the polymer injection industry for a while.. It's not easy as you may think trust me.. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 11:03:57 AM EDT
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Pretty funny how some people are complaing about a plastic hinge on a plastic gun
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Posted: 10/17/2015 11:37:48 AM EDT
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Pretty funny how some people are complaing about a plastic hinge on a plastic gun It's not an equivalent comparison. The stock will be taking strong lateral stress on a small and not particularly robust hinge. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 11:46:36 AM EDT
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It's not an equivalent comparison. The stock will be taking strong lateral stress on a small and not particularly robust hinge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty funny how some people are complaing about a plastic hinge on a plastic gun It's not an equivalent comparison. The stock will be taking strong lateral stress on a small and not particularly robust hinge. How do you know how robust it is? It was built for the machine gun version and I don'tthink 9mm causes strong lateral stress and besides when it is open how much stress is actually on the hinge? |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 12:11:10 PM EDT
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Pretty funny how some people are complaing about a plastic hinge on a plastic gun I'm not complaining or anything but my question would be, if the plastic was sufficient why was it changed to metal? I would think the plastic would be easier and less expensive to make. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 12:22:28 PM EDT
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I'm not complaining or anything but my question would be, if the plastic was sufficient why was it changed to metal? I would think the plastic would be easier and less expensive to make. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty funny how some people are complaing about a plastic hinge on a plastic gun I'm not complaining or anything but my question would be, if the plastic was sufficient why was it changed to metal? I would think the plastic would be easier and less expensive to make. I'm no expert in the manufacturing industry but maybe a metal hinge was easier the manufacture in the US than an injection molded hinge. I could see making the molds might be more complicated than plugging in specs into a CAD program and just letting a machine carve it out. I don't know though it's just a thought. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 12:25:22 PM EDT
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The stock will be taking strong lateral stress on a small and not particularly robust hinge. Are you guys going to shoot the crap out of it or playing baseball?! 
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Posted: 10/17/2015 12:26:44 PM EDT
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I have seen a few subguns with plastic stocks mounted on plastic hinges. My TP9 is a plastic stock with a plastic hinge (held by a metal pin). I've got thousands of rounds down my TP9 and the stock is still tight and shows no signs of failure... and it is a wee thing compared to the overengineered beef the Scorpion has.
I've already got stock kit on order with KVAR, but honestly I'd rather have the hard plastic butt and the clasp retainer over the rubber butt / magnet arrangement. Magnets just sound chincy to me, but I'm sure both stocks are good. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 12:41:49 PM EDT
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I have seen a few subguns with plastic stocks mounted on plastic hinges. My TP9 is a plastic stock with a plastic hinge (held by a metal pin). I've got thousands of rounds down my TP9 and the stock is still tight and shows no signs of failure... and it is a wee thing compared to the overengineered beef the Scorpion has. I've already got stock kit on order with KVAR, but honestly I'd rather have the hard plastic butt and the clasp retainer over the rubber butt / magnet arrangement. Magnets just sound chincy to me, but I'm sure both stocks are good. Are the hinges on the SCAR plastic also? |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 1:04:10 PM EDT
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I have seen a few subguns with plastic stocks mounted on plastic hinges. My TP9 is a plastic stock with a plastic hinge (held by a metal pin). I've got thousands of rounds down my TP9 and the stock is still tight and shows no signs of failure... and it is a wee thing compared to the overengineered beef the Scorpion has. I've already got stock kit on order with KVAR, but honestly I'd rather have the hard plastic butt and the clasp retainer over the rubber butt / magnet arrangement. Magnets just sound chincy to me, but I'm sure both stocks are good. Are the hinges on the SCAR plastic also? Yup. At least on my gen 1 they are. The stock slides onto a metal mount but the hinge itself is plastic with a metal pin. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 1:27:15 PM EDT
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Yup. At least on my gen 1 they are. The stock slides onto a metal mount but the hinge itself is plastic with a metal pin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have seen a few subguns with plastic stocks mounted on plastic hinges. My TP9 is a plastic stock with a plastic hinge (held by a metal pin). I've got thousands of rounds down my TP9 and the stock is still tight and shows no signs of failure... and it is a wee thing compared to the overengineered beef the Scorpion has. I've already got stock kit on order with KVAR, but honestly I'd rather have the hard plastic butt and the clasp retainer over the rubber butt / magnet arrangement. Magnets just sound chincy to me, but I'm sure both stocks are good. Are the hinges on the SCAR plastic also? Yup. At least on my gen 1 they are. The stock slides onto a metal mount but the hinge itself is plastic with a metal pin. The pin on the Scorpion stock is metal also |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 2:24:33 PM EDT
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Also the ARX has a polymer hinge
ETA: btw the magnet on the far superior Gen2 stock is supposed to stick on the S/N plate.. So the function is still limited to the fully collapsed position
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Posted: 10/17/2015 6:10:11 PM EDT
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I'm no expert in the manufacturing industry but maybe a metal hinge was easier the manufacture in the US than an injection molded hinge. I could see making the molds might be more complicated than plugging in specs into a CAD program and just letting a machine carve it out. I don't know though it's just a thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty funny how some people are complaing about a plastic hinge on a plastic gun I'm not complaining or anything but my question would be, if the plastic was sufficient why was it changed to metal? I would think the plastic would be easier and less expensive to make. I'm no expert in the manufacturing industry but maybe a metal hinge was easier the manufacture in the US than an injection molded hinge. I could see making the molds might be more complicated than plugging in specs into a CAD program and just letting a machine carve it out. I don't know though it's just a thought. Im not going to jump into the bickering as I decided for my own reasons to wait. I just wanted to point out the stock is made in Europe not the US |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 8:07:48 PM EDT
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Are the hinges on the SCAR plastic also? Bad example: the SCAR's stock has always been a flimsy piece of shit. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 11:36:05 PM EDT
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I'm no expert in the manufacturing industry but maybe a metal hinge was easier the manufacture in the US than an injection molded hinge. I could see making the molds might be more complicated than plugging in specs into a CAD program and just letting a machine carve it out. I don't know though it's just a thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty funny how some people are complaing about a plastic hinge on a plastic gun I'm not complaining or anything but my question would be, if the plastic was sufficient why was it changed to metal? I would think the plastic would be easier and less expensive to make. I'm no expert in the manufacturing industry but maybe a metal hinge was easier the manufacture in the US than an injection molded hinge. I could see making the molds might be more complicated than plugging in specs into a CAD program and just letting a machine carve it out. I don't know though it's just a thought. It was simply about updating to a better product for a new market. Nothing to do with ease of manufacturing. You haven't seen the two side by side? There's pics out there. The whole mount is metal to increase strength and durability.... and the rubber buttpad is great for a few obvious reasons. The old version stock would be fine but at a discounted rate. The new and much better built stock is the same price ....but you get your compliant parts at same time. |
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