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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:54:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTran555:
Sweet. When did you submit? Hoping to see mine soon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTran555:
Originally Posted By king_reptar:
Sweet. Just got the email, Form 1 finally approved.  now I just need a compliance kit/factory stock...Sweet. When did you submit? Hoping to see mine soon. March 25th, so... 96 days. Which is way longer than my other Form 1, that took 35 days... But that was in December. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:02:03 PM EDT
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Well I'm sitting on day 92. Thank you for giving me hope that I'll see it before July 4th weekend.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:41:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
People have been putting thread on Tri-lug adapters on 1/2x28 and 1/2x36 tpi threaded HK barrels for years (often HK94's cut down from 16" to 8" when SBR'ed and the like) and there have not been issues. My personal opinion is people are throwing around terms without really knowing or understanding the relationship of the parts or thread types. You are going to get more chance of offest boreline from a tri-lug, whether or not integral to the barrel or a thread on adapter, than from any thread on adapter. The 18x1 metric is a pretty fine and snug fitting thread, and the barrel cocentricity looks good. I do not forsee any issues. On an aside, from an engineering standpoint a tri-lug is a both an expensive and not ideal solution for accurately mounting a suppressor. What it is meant for is a system that allows very quick mounting and demounting and you do not have to worry about fouled threads. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Originally Posted By USMC_JA:
Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Originally Posted By Dustrod:
I made a video of the complete disassembly of the Scorpion. I ran into issues taking some parts off the lower so hopefully this video will help if you run into the same issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIMO9onCXs Excellent video, I am going to repost it on the Manticore Facebook page.  Do you have any comments on the tolerance stacking issue that was discussed a couple pages back with respect to using 3-lug adapters on the scorpion? I do NOT want to start a pissing match as I appreciate all the comments. But since it is your part that I am eye-balling, and I am trying to make an informed decision, figure you guys would have some input one way or another. People have been putting thread on Tri-lug adapters on 1/2x28 and 1/2x36 tpi threaded HK barrels for years (often HK94's cut down from 16" to 8" when SBR'ed and the like) and there have not been issues. My personal opinion is people are throwing around terms without really knowing or understanding the relationship of the parts or thread types. You are going to get more chance of offest boreline from a tri-lug, whether or not integral to the barrel or a thread on adapter, than from any thread on adapter. The 18x1 metric is a pretty fine and snug fitting thread, and the barrel cocentricity looks good. I do not forsee any issues. On an aside, from an engineering standpoint a tri-lug is a both an expensive and not ideal solution for accurately mounting a suppressor. What it is meant for is a system that allows very quick mounting and demounting and you do not have to worry about fouled threads. Thank you for taking the time to lend your expertise to this topic. What you said makes much sense as well. So, the answer appears to be to decide if you need the QD feature, and then live with the cost and risk of offset accordingly…as minimal as they may be. Thanks again. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2015 2:45:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTran555:
Well I'm sitting on day 92. Thank you for giving me hope that I'll see it before July 4th weekend. I'm at 90 today. I probably won't make it in before the holiday by the looks of it. The last one I did back in December-January was 32 days. Ah, the good O'l days. I also have a Form 4 sitting at 97 days and and another form 1 sitting at 18 days and counting. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:19:11 PM EDT
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I'm right around 80 days now. The lack of stocks/922 kits makes the wait a whole lot more bearable though.
On a positive note though.... my Octane 9 was delivered to my dealer today. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:36:06 PM EDT
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Have any of you who have already gotten forms back considered just putting an AR buffer tube/stock on it until a stock kit comes out?
The adapter is only like 40 bucks, and I'm sure most of you have a buffer tube/stock lying around Just curious |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:42:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTHKTX:
Have any of you who have already gotten forms back considered just putting an AR buffer tube/stock on it until a stock kit comes out? The adapter is only like 40 bucks, and I'm sure most of you have a buffer tube/stock lying around Just curious 922r is still an issue. For those that don't care about these types of things, yes. Most are using an AR stock. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:32:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GTHKTX]
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:54:35 PM EDT
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how many of you are running an octane 9/45 can? And what style of mount with it?
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:31:12 PM EDT
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I'm sitting on day 86, now I'm starting to get antsy
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:47:00 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
I'm sitting on day 86, now I'm starting to get antsy I am at 83 days but do not have high hopes. I already had one denied because I live in Washington state.  FBATFE
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:58:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By to4e440:
I am at 83 days but do not have high hopes. I already had one denied because I live in Washington state. FBATFEQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By to4e440:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
I'm sitting on day 86, now I'm starting to get antsy I am at 83 days but do not have high hopes. I already had one denied because I live in Washington state. FBATFEWhat?! Is that a thing? You can't own NFA items in Washington? I was thinking about moving there after school... |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:46:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By king_reptar:
What?! Is that a thing? You can't own NFA items in Washington? I was thinking about moving there after school... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By king_reptar:
Originally Posted By to4e440:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
I'm sitting on day 86, now I'm starting to get antsy I am at 83 days but do not have high hopes. I already had one denied because I live in Washington state. FBATFEWhat?! Is that a thing? You can't own NFA items in Washington? I was thinking about moving there after school... SBRs are in limbo right now. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:19:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mecha_Loopy:
SBRs are in limbo right now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mecha_Loopy:
Originally Posted By king_reptar:
Originally Posted By to4e440:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
I'm sitting on day 86, now I'm starting to get antsy I am at 83 days but do not have high hopes. I already had one denied because I live in Washington state. FBATFEWhat?! Is that a thing? You can't own NFA items in Washington? I was thinking about moving there after school... SBRs are in limbo right now. Is there a reason? That's highly unfortunate. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:28:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By king_reptar:
Is there a reason? That's highly unfortunate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By king_reptar:
Originally Posted By Mecha_Loopy:
Originally Posted By king_reptar:
Originally Posted By to4e440:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
I'm sitting on day 86, now I'm starting to get antsy I am at 83 days but do not have high hopes. I already had one denied because I live in Washington state. FBATFEWhat?! Is that a thing? You can't own NFA items in Washington? I was thinking about moving there after school... SBRs are in limbo right now. Is there a reason? That's highly unfortunate. The law authorizing them was poorly written. Someone at the state level was speaking with someone at the ATF about it, ATF got spooked and either denied or held up all pending form 1s. There had been some talk about silencers getting held up, but they're moving now apparently. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2015 11:04:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rocky59:
how many of you are running an octane 9/45 can? And what style of mount with it? Octane 9 here, running a tri-lug from SiCo. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2015 12:59:11 PM EDT
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If anyone wanted to see a highly detailed picture of the Octane 9 HD and the direct thread mount
 SD8A5413-Edit.jpg by Dsully, on Flickr
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:41:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2015 3:18:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buffman_LT1:
EVO 3 with Osprey 45 :D <a href="https://flic.kr/p/v6YNBc" target="_blank">https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3669/19102011809_2ed063c8fa_z.jpg</a>CZ Scorpion EV 3 S1 by Slvrwrx, on Flickr That's what I'll be doing once it's out of jail.
Do you have any more pics of it? Side on? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 6:28:42 PM EDT
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When does that Manticore 3-lug go into production? That's what I'm waiting on.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2015 7:19:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rocky59:
how many of you are running an octane 9/45 can? And what style of mount with it? Octane 45 here sitting on a TROS 3 lug adapter. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 7:38:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
When does that Manticore 3-lug go into production? That's what I'm waiting on. Me too. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 7:43:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Manticore_Arms]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
When does that Manticore 3-lug go into production? That's what I'm waiting on. Still doing some fitment confirmation to make sure we got it dead on right.
Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 9:55:39 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNRider:
I'm at 90 today. I probably won't make it in before the holiday by the looks of it. The last one I did back in December-January was 32 days. Ah, the good O'l days. I also have a Form 4 sitting at 97 days and and another form 1 sitting at 18 days and counting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNRider:
Originally Posted By CTran555:
Well I'm sitting on day 92. Thank you for giving me hope that I'll see it before July 4th weekend. I'm at 90 today. I probably won't make it in before the holiday by the looks of it. The last one I did back in December-January was 32 days. Ah, the good O'l days. I also have a Form 4 sitting at 97 days and and another form 1 sitting at 18 days and counting. I just got mine back today. It was submitted on March 24th. You should be right in here soon. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 1:42:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Still doing some fitment confirmation to make sure we got it dead on right.
Sven Manticore Arms Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Originally Posted By vellnueve:
When does that Manticore 3-lug go into production? That's what I'm waiting on. Still doing some fitment confirmation to make sure we got it dead on right.
Sven Manticore Arms My M92 PAP stamp is coming at the same time as the Evo, when will you have some more triangle stocks in? |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 3:35:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo:
Octane 45 here sitting on a TROS 3 lug adapter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo:
Originally Posted By rocky59:
how many of you are running an octane 9/45 can? And what style of mount with it? Octane 45 here sitting on a TROS 3 lug adapter. Same here. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 11:47:47 AM EDT
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Picked up a gem tech black side for a damn good deal yesterday so looks like that is what is going on it.
Efiled form 1 getting done today Form 4 for the cabs are being sent off today as well. Safety is at the door when I get home. I'm beginning to hate this gun
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USA
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Posted: 7/2/2015 1:30:52 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTHKTX:
<a href="http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/gthktx/media/8ad051de-c5b4-4562-97b1-c869cd84c835_zpsofzvotnt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s611/gthktx/8ad051de-c5b4-4562-97b1-c869cd84c835_zpsofzvotnt.jpg</a> Is that a KAK Shockwave Blade on a factory CZ adaptor? If so, how is that combo working for you? Snug, any play? |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 2:21:39 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpecWired:
Is that a KAK Shockwave Blade on a factory CZ adaptor? If so, how is that combo working for you? Snug, any play? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpecWired:
Originally Posted By GTHKTX:
<a href="http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/gthktx/media/8ad051de-c5b4-4562-97b1-c869cd84c835_zpsofzvotnt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s611/gthktx/8ad051de-c5b4-4562-97b1-c869cd84c835_zpsofzvotnt.jpg</a> Is that a KAK Shockwave Blade on a factory CZ adaptor? If so, how is that combo working for you? Snug, any play? The Shockwave works great with the Scorpion. The adapter takes any buffer tube, so the Shockwave fits right on there. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:26:50 AM EDT
[#30]
Got mine yesterday; fired off a few rounds at my FFL holders backyard range (next door to a children's day-care center).
What a great pistol. But, who decided to make the trigger pull about 100 lbs? At first I thought I hadn't taken off the safety..... This one is later manufacture, with the lack of the extruded plastic protrusion on the magwell. BTW, in a different chassis and a longer barrel, this could be an awesome bullpup! G. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:52:08 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blindeye:
Got mine yesterday; fired off a few rounds at my FFL holders backyard range (next door to a children's day-care center). What a great pistol. But, who decided to make the trigger pull about 100 lbs? At first I thought I hadn't taken off the safety..... This one is later manufacture, with the lack of the extruded plastic protrusion on the magwell. BTW, in a different chassis and a longer barrel, this could be an awesome bullpup! G. Explain? Pics? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:55:00 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpecWired:
Is that a KAK Shockwave Blade on a factory CZ adaptor? If so, how is that combo working for you? Snug, any play? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpecWired:
Originally Posted By GTHKTX:
<a href="http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/gthktx/media/8ad051de-c5b4-4562-97b1-c869cd84c835_zpsofzvotnt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s611/gthktx/8ad051de-c5b4-4562-97b1-c869cd84c835_zpsofzvotnt.jpg</a> Is that a KAK Shockwave Blade on a factory CZ adaptor? If so, how is that combo working for you? Snug, any play? Its great. The KAK looks way more streamlined and less goofy than the Sig brace, and its more traditional looking than the CAA/Thordsen buffer cover Its very stable. I opted to forego the castle nut and just threaded the tube into the adapter and held it in place with the two set screws it comes with. Nice and solid. Plus its adjustable (via set screw) for about 10 different positions ranging from all the way forward to all the way back. Its quite stable at all positions, no matter how much of the brace is actually over the tube |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2015 8:55:14 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTHKTX:
Explain? Pics? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTHKTX:
Originally Posted By Blindeye:
Got mine yesterday; fired off a few rounds at my FFL holders backyard range (next door to a children's day-care center). What a great pistol. But, who decided to make the trigger pull about 100 lbs? At first I thought I hadn't taken off the safety..... This one is later manufacture, with the lack of the extruded plastic protrusion on the magwell. BTW, in a different chassis and a longer barrel, this could be an awesome bullpup! G. Explain? Pics? I'm pretty sure he means the ears that are on the mag release on some of the earlier production models as opposed to the latest manufacture date models which don't have the ears. Also, on another note I eFiled my Form 1 the other day so I guess ~90ish days and counting till I get my stamp. Hopefully the stock/922 kit will be released by then. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2015 10:51:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LabelFacingRight:
Also, on another note I eFiled my Form 1 the other day so I guess ~90ish days and counting till I get my stamp. Hopefully the stock/922 kit will be released by then. It's around 97+ days and climbing now. I'm at 93 today so I'm close but still a few days away. Given the 4th Holiday I'm probably looking at late next week. I would think by the time you get your stamp they should be close to getting something out. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:26:08 AM EDT
[#35]
I, myself am sitting at 95 days on my stamp. Per a post I read on the CZ-USA FB page, they are saying mid-August to early September timeframe on the 922 compliance kits.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:39:27 PM EDT
[#36]
Sounds about right. Mine was submitted March 25th, I got it back Monday, the 29th. So 96 days
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Posted: 7/2/2015 3:54:36 PM EDT
[#37]
I'm trying to get one but haven't had contact returned from CZ for their first responder program.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 6:59:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tex7488:
I'm trying to get one but haven't had contact returned from CZ for their first responder program. I don't think its first responder. I think it's just Mil/LEO |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 7:30:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norinco982lover:
I don't think its first responder. I think it's just Mil/LEO Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norinco982lover:
Originally Posted By tex7488:
I'm trying to get one but haven't had contact returned from CZ for their first responder program. I don't think its first responder. I think it's just Mil/LEO Someone at some point on here mentioned paramedic in my PM's. So I'm hoping! I may call next week after holiday and see if I can get a response on it. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:42:10 PM EDT
[#40]
Here's the link about newer manufacture:http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/01/laugo-arms-scorpion-evo-3/
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Posted: 7/3/2015 12:30:03 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tex7488:
Someone at some point on here mentioned paramedic in my PM's. So I'm hoping! I may call next week after holiday and see if I can get a response on it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tex7488:
Originally Posted By Norinco982lover:
Originally Posted By tex7488:
I'm trying to get one but haven't had contact returned from CZ for their first responder program. I don't think its first responder. I think it's just Mil/LEO Someone at some point on here mentioned paramedic in my PM's. So I'm hoping! I may call next week after holiday and see if I can get a response on it. If you don't hear back in a day or two PM me and I will get you the contact info of the guy I got mine through. I even talked to CZs CEO on the telephone...when they sent me my pistol without ever asking for payment! |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2015 1:13:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: armoredman]
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2015 5:48:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Took my Scorpion out to the range yesterday to do initial shots and to sight in the red dot/irons. All I can say is that I cant wait until my stamp comes in because this is just uncomfortable (even with the safety delete, the hand stop took a chunk out of my index finger) and awkward to shoot as a pistol. Another issue I had was that the front sight can't be lowered enough to get a zero, when co-witnessed with the red dot, the dot is about halfway down the front post.
I'm not too concerned about these issues, just somethings that I'll have to train around or wait till I get a stock and see if they go away. Overall, while I wish that I could get the irons to zero, I'm pretty happy with this purchase now if they would only release the stock kit. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:06:43 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rocky59: Picked up a gem tech black side for a damn good deal yesterday so looks like that is what is going on it. Efiled form 1 getting done today Form 4 for the cabs are being sent off today as well. Safety is at the door when I get home. I'm beginning to hate this gun How are you planning on using your Blackside with the EVO? I don't believe Gemtech sells a piston blocking tube/spacer for the Blackside. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:27:36 PM EDT
[#45]
For those still struggling to find mags:
30 rounders in stock for $20 https://czcustom.com/czevoscorpion9mm30rdmag.aspx Good luck! |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:36:40 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By complex57:
For those still struggling to find mags: 30 rounders in stock for $20 https://czcustom.com/czevoscorpion9mm30rdmag.aspx Good luck! Still in stock at time of posting, supply/demand improving. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:21:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By complex57:
For those still struggling to find mags: 30 rounders in stock for $20 https://czcustom.com/czevoscorpion9mm30rdmag.aspx Good luck! Just ordered 4. Hope they hang in there...trying to talk myself out of any more, to resist is futile 
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Posted: 7/6/2015 11:43:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By complex57:
For those still struggling to find mags: 30 rounders in stock for $20 https://czcustom.com/czevoscorpion9mm30rdmag.aspx Good luck! I ordered a few. We'll see if I was quick enough. BTW has anyone switched from the pistol sights to the LPA subgun sights? Anyone know why they are so cheap on CZ's web store? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2015 12:54:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman:
She is a wonderful person. Scorpion as is right now, changes in the wind. <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20Scorpion/Scorp%20and%20P-09%201_zpsmqv9tgwh.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20Scorpion/Scorp%20and%20P-09%201_zpsmqv9tgwh.jpg</a> What rail covers are these? I've been looking for something like that for a while |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 1:51:59 PM EDT
[#50]
FYI, just a little update.
Scorpion Eclipse flash hiders will be available very soon along with a new safety lever that doesn't rub the finger. I had a great idea on how to give even more value on the tri lug adapter, and I am just waiting on a part to confirm everything, so it will take a little longer, but you should get more bang for your buck out of it once it is in production.
We have looked in to molding magazines, and simply put, it is a very expensive proposition. Mags would likely be a bit more expensive than the foreign made ones (probably more like $25-$30), but you get 3 U.S. compliance parts out of the deal, and we would be making them out of a black polymer that should not have any issues with cracking. Not sure if we are going forward with that yet, if we do it would likely be later in the year... Sven Manticore Arms |
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