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Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Re: everyone above, here is the message (with her pemission to reprint) I recieved this morning from J&G Sales (AZ) after I asked about others who wish to pre-order from them (they HAD five available - none left): "...Unfortunately, when it comes to any new manufacture item there are only a limited amount upon first production available for specific dealers (allocation)... After that point, it is up tho the manufacturer as to how many they produce and make available. I would love to help your acquaintances on your forum however I cannot guarantee anything at this point but just those few we have on order now... that is how I would explain the situation to any customer that would call in..." View Quote Odd, I just called J&G about 2 hours ago and they said I was the only one who had pre-ordered one yet (I did last night). He said they didn't even know about the weapon before I called in to order. |
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Originally Posted By tumbler:
Odd, I just called J&G about 2 hours ago and they said I was the only one who had pre-ordered one yet (I did last night). He said they didn't even know about the weapon before I called in to order. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tumbler:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Re: everyone above, here is the message (with her pemission to reprint) I recieved this morning from J&G Sales (AZ) after I asked about others who wish to pre-order from them (they HAD five available - none left): "...Unfortunately, when it comes to any new manufacture item there are only a limited amount upon first production available for specific dealers (allocation)... After that point, it is up tho the manufacturer as to how many they produce and make available. I would love to help your acquaintances on your forum however I cannot guarantee anything at this point but just those few we have on order now... that is how I would explain the situation to any customer that would call in..." Odd, I just called J&G about 2 hours ago and they said I was the only one who had pre-ordered one yet (I did last night). He said they didn't even know about the weapon before I called in to order. Lol@trusting gun sales people. |
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Local CZ dealer won't order one for me, even after I offered the possibility of paying upfront if the price was right.
Wouldn't quite a price, wouldn't order for me and wouldn't even call their distributor. No more business from me. |
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I have about $1,000 ready for one but no dealers close that I would ever deal with. If i don't pre-order one, I bet the gunbroker price will be legal rape.
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Originally Posted By tumbler:
Odd, I just called J&G about 2 hours ago and they said I was the only one who had pre-ordered one yet (I did last night). He said they didn't even know about the weapon before I called in to order. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tumbler:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Re: everyone above, here is the message (with her pemission to reprint) I recieved this morning from J&G Sales (AZ) after I asked about others who wish to pre-order from them (they HAD five available - none left): "...Unfortunately, when it comes to any new manufacture item there are only a limited amount upon first production available for specific dealers (allocation)... After that point, it is up tho the manufacturer as to how many they produce and make available. I would love to help your acquaintances on your forum however I cannot guarantee anything at this point but just those few we have on order now... that is how I would explain the situation to any customer that would call in..." Odd, I just called J&G about 2 hours ago and they said I was the only one who had pre-ordered one yet (I did last night). He said they didn't even know about the weapon before I called in to order. No idea, just going with what I was told. Maybe they have more and were lying to one or both of us. I didn't get that feeling though. Bottom line is that there are going to be Evos out there at some point in 2015. |
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By FIELD_MP:
Local CZ dealer won't order one for me, even after I offered the possibility of paying upfront if the price was right. Wouldn't quite a price, wouldn't order for me and wouldn't even call their distributor. No more business from me. dicks Maybe they know how product is allocated and that it is impossible to guarantee price or availability until the gun is actually in stock. Lots of distributors don't have waiting lists so unless you are high on your reps list and they get allocated guns you are SOL. |
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Originally Posted By swingset
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig ANIMUS Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie |
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Originally Posted By FIELD_MP:
Local CZ dealer won't order one for me, even after I offered the possibility of paying upfront if the price was right. Wouldn't quite a price, wouldn't order for me and wouldn't even call their distributor. No more business from me. View Quote I called around too basically just to ask about any info available. All the local places I spoke with said they won't know much until after SHOT. Called 3 places, all said the same thing: They aren't taking names down, aren't making a wait list, don't know anything other than it's supposed to hit the market sometime "soon". |
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Originally Posted By Mabuz:
I called around too basically just to ask about any info available. All the local places I spoke with said they won't know much until after SHOT. Called 3 places, all said the same thing: They aren't taking names down, aren't making a wait list, don't know anything other than it's supposed to hit the market sometime "soon". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mabuz:
Originally Posted By FIELD_MP:
Local CZ dealer won't order one for me, even after I offered the possibility of paying upfront if the price was right. Wouldn't quite a price, wouldn't order for me and wouldn't even call their distributor. No more business from me. I called around too basically just to ask about any info available. All the local places I spoke with said they won't know much until after SHOT. Called 3 places, all said the same thing: They aren't taking names down, aren't making a wait list, don't know anything other than it's supposed to hit the market sometime "soon". I called my local dealer yesterday and was told basically the same thing. They expected a lot more details after SHOT. |
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Sometimes I wonder if these gun shops know that the company has sales reps? If I'm a CZ dealer, and someone wants to fork over money for a CZ, you could bet your ass I'm going to call CZ on the phone and sort it out.
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Originally Posted By CKxx:
Sometimes I wonder if these gun shops know that the company has sales reps? If I'm a CZ dealer, and someone wants to fork over money for a CZ, you could bet your ass I'm going to call CZ on the phone and sort it out. View Quote And the majority of gun manufacturers won't do anything but tell you to call a distributor. |
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Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
And the majority of gun manufacturers won't do anything but tell you to call a distributor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By CKxx:
Sometimes I wonder if these gun shops know that the company has sales reps? If I'm a CZ dealer, and someone wants to fork over money for a CZ, you could bet your ass I'm going to call CZ on the phone and sort it out. And the majority of gun manufacturers won't do anything but tell you to call a distributor. Yup and the distributors frequently don't know either as they deal with the same reps. In my experience nobody reals knows anything until right before the guns are actually shipping out. |
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Originally Posted By swingset
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig ANIMUS Rude pricks need a serious traumatic life experie |
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Maybe they know how product is allocated and that it is impossible to guarantee price or availability until the gun is actually in stock. Lots of distributors don't have waiting lists so unless you are high on your reps list and they get allocated guns you are SOL. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By RDTCU: Originally Posted By FIELD_MP: Local CZ dealer won't order one for me, even after I offered the possibility of paying upfront if the price was right. Wouldn't quite a price, wouldn't order for me and wouldn't even call their distributor. No more business from me. dicks Maybe they know how product is allocated and that it is impossible to guarantee price or availability until the gun is actually in stock. Lots of distributors don't have waiting lists so unless you are high on your reps list and they get allocated guns you are SOL. That being said, it sounds like they weren't too helpful, period
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Originally Posted By CKxx: Sometimes I wonder if these gun shops know that the company has sales reps? If I'm a CZ dealer, and someone wants to fork over money for a CZ, you could bet your ass I'm going to call CZ on the phone and sort it out. View Quote It's sad when I learn more about product on here than from sales reps, but that is often how it goes
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Hey, on a different note, does anyone know the optic that's mounted in the Colin Noir review on page 3 (I think)? Thanks.
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I would like to see a pic w/ Sig SBX brace....I haven't found one yet.
I like the factory stock and I don't want to SBR I wonder if it will be available as a carbine or maybe adding faux pinned suppressor and adding a factory stock might look ok Looks like the barrel is threaded inside of receiver,mabye a 16" barrel will be available in the future |
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Originally Posted By firststrike51:
I would like to see a pic w/ Sig SBX brace....I haven't found one yet. I like the factory stock and I don't want to SBR I wonder if it will be available as a carbine or maybe adding faux pinned suppressor and adding a factory stock might look ok Looks like the barrel is threaded inside of receiver,mabye a 16" barrel will be available in the future View Quote It won't ever be imported the way you want it. The only reason it's being imported as a pistol is to avoid the import restrictions on rifles. Maybe if it sells well as a pistol CZ-USA will make enough parts stateside to assemble rifles that are compliant with 922r, but I doubt it would be any time soon. |
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Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Re: everyone above, here is the message (with her pemission to reprint) I recieved this morning from J&G Sales (AZ) after I asked about others who wish to pre-order from them (they HAD five available - none left): "...Unfortunately, when it comes to any new manufacture item there are only a limited amount upon first production available for specific dealers (allocation)... After that point, it is up tho the manufacturer as to how many they produce and make available. I would love to help your acquaintances on your forum however I cannot guarantee anything at this point but just those few we have on order now... that is how I would explain the situation to any customer that would call in..." You lucky SOB Really lucky... I secured another one. There's a good chance it will end up on the EE if my buddy doesn't want it. |
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Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Really lucky... I secured another one. There's a good chance it will end up on the EE if my buddy doesn't want it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Re: everyone above, here is the message (with her pemission to reprint) I recieved this morning from J&G Sales (AZ) after I asked about others who wish to pre-order from them (they HAD five available - none left): "...Unfortunately, when it comes to any new manufacture item there are only a limited amount upon first production available for specific dealers (allocation)... After that point, it is up tho the manufacturer as to how many they produce and make available. I would love to help your acquaintances on your forum however I cannot guarantee anything at this point but just those few we have on order now... that is how I would explain the situation to any customer that would call in..." You lucky SOB Really lucky... I secured another one. There's a good chance it will end up on the EE if my buddy doesn't want it. First Dibs been called yet? If not, dibs! |
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
It won't ever be imported the way you want it. The only reason it's being imported as a pistol is to avoid the import restrictions on rifles. Maybe if it sells well as a pistol CZ-USA will make enough parts stateside to assemble rifles that are compliant with 922r, but I doubt it would be any time soon. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Originally Posted By firststrike51:
I would like to see a pic w/ Sig SBX brace....I haven't found one yet. I like the factory stock and I don't want to SBR I wonder if it will be available as a carbine or maybe adding faux pinned suppressor and adding a factory stock might look ok Looks like the barrel is threaded inside of receiver,mabye a 16" barrel will be available in the future It won't ever be imported the way you want it. The only reason it's being imported as a pistol is to avoid the import restrictions on rifles. Maybe if it sells well as a pistol CZ-USA will make enough parts stateside to assemble rifles that are compliant with 922r, but I doubt it would be any time soon. I was thinking that I read somewhere that it already had nine US/ 922r parts.....but I cant find that info now,So I must be mistaken. I read it is a compete pistol when imported so it would have no US made parts. AKs need six 922r parts.....the scorpion may need more,so it would seem I need to look for a pistol brace. |
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I got a look at it field stripped in a video CZ posted shortly after the announcement, and I don't think you'll need that many US parts. It doesn't appear to have a bolt carrier, nor a gas piston/op rod. I couldn't see how the barrel attaches to the receiver but it's conceivable that it may be screwed or pinned directly to the receiver, eliminating a separate trunion. Simplicity works in your favor with 922r. CZ has said they submitted a letter to the ATF asking for a definitive parts count on the EVO, but I'm cautiously optimistic that you may be able to get by with a mag follower, mag floor plate, and new muzzle device (which you'll probably need anyway if you intend to run a can on it).
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Originally Posted By lovecraftfan:
I got a look at it field stripped in a video CZ posted shortly after the announcement, and I don't think you'll need that many US parts. It doesn't appear to have a bolt carrier, nor a gas piston/op rod. I couldn't see how the barrel attaches to the receiver but it's conceivable that it may be screwed or pinned directly to the receiver, eliminating a separate trunion. Simplicity works in your favor with 922r. CZ has said they submitted a letter to the ATF asking for a definitive parts count on the EVO, but I'm cautiously optimistic that you may be able to get by with a mag follower, mag floor plate, and new muzzle device (which you'll probably need anyway if you intend to run a can on it). View Quote Yep. That's the best case I think. |
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I have two on pre-order. I was told "Mid-$700's"... I'm assuming that's a total guess at this point but the fact that they'll put an order in as soon as they can is more comforting than waiting around for a store to have it in stock.
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Originally Posted By Stonecutter6:
First Dibs been called yet? If not, dibs! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Stonecutter6:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Re: everyone above, here is the message (with her pemission to reprint) I recieved this morning from J&G Sales (AZ) after I asked about others who wish to pre-order from them (they HAD five available - none left): "...Unfortunately, when it comes to any new manufacture item there are only a limited amount upon first production available for specific dealers (allocation)... After that point, it is up tho the manufacturer as to how many they produce and make available. I would love to help your acquaintances on your forum however I cannot guarantee anything at this point but just those few we have on order now... that is how I would explain the situation to any customer that would call in..." You lucky SOB Really lucky... I secured another one. There's a good chance it will end up on the EE if my buddy doesn't want it. First Dibs been called yet? If not, dibs! You can preorder by contacting Only The Best Firearms (OTB). |
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Originally Posted By rtran:
You can preorder by contacting Only The Best Firearms (OTB). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rtran:
Originally Posted By Stonecutter6:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Re: everyone above, here is the message (with her pemission to reprint) I recieved this morning from J&G Sales (AZ) after I asked about others who wish to pre-order from them (they HAD five available - none left): "...Unfortunately, when it comes to any new manufacture item there are only a limited amount upon first production available for specific dealers (allocation)... After that point, it is up tho the manufacturer as to how many they produce and make available. I would love to help your acquaintances on your forum however I cannot guarantee anything at this point but just those few we have on order now... that is how I would explain the situation to any customer that would call in..." You lucky SOB Really lucky... I secured another one. There's a good chance it will end up on the EE if my buddy doesn't want it. First Dibs been called yet? If not, dibs! You can preorder by contacting Only The Best Firearms (OTB). Only The Best told me they required a $500 check to hold and if I remember correctly another $500+shipping upon arrival |
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Originally Posted By pool_shark:
Only The Best told me they required a $500 check to hold and if I remember correctly another $500+shipping upon arrival View Quote That's correct. There are two magazine configurations depending on your state magazine restrictions. 2-10 round or 1-20 round. 30 round will be available seperately. |
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Originally Posted By pool_shark:
Only The Best told me they required a $500 check to hold and if I remember correctly another $500+shipping upon arrival View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By pool_shark:
Originally Posted By rtran:
You can preorder by contacting Only The Best Firearms (OTB). Only The Best told me they required a $500 check to hold and if I remember correctly another $500+shipping upon arrival What a rip off. I got one for $800 after tax from an lgs. |
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Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
What a rip off. I got one for $800 after tax from an lgs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By pool_shark:
Originally Posted By rtran:
You can preorder by contacting Only The Best Firearms (OTB). Only The Best told me they required a $500 check to hold and if I remember correctly another $500+shipping upon arrival What a rip off. I got one for $800 after tax from an lgs. And they'll probably sell every one they can get their hands on at that price... |
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Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
What a rip off. I got one for $800 after tax from an lgs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By pool_shark:
Originally Posted By rtran:
You can preorder by contacting Only The Best Firearms (OTB). Only The Best told me they required a $500 check to hold and if I remember correctly another $500+shipping upon arrival What a rip off. I got one for $800 after tax from an lgs. It's not THAT bad. They were the first the post anything about preorders anyway. |
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Originally Posted By rtran:
It's not THAT bad. They were the first the post anything about preorders anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rtran:
Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By pool_shark:
Originally Posted By rtran:
You can preorder by contacting Only The Best Firearms (OTB). Only The Best told me they required a $500 check to hold and if I remember correctly another $500+shipping upon arrival What a rip off. I got one for $800 after tax from an lgs. It's not THAT bad. They were the first the post anything about preorders anyway. No thanks. $1,000 for a gun with a MSRP of $850 when others have said they got it for less than $800 isn't bad? |
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Originally Posted By c7aea15:
No thanks. $1,000 for a gun with a MSRP of $850 when others have said they got it for less than $800 isn't bad? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By rtran:
Originally Posted By Gazorpazorp:
Originally Posted By pool_shark:
Originally Posted By rtran:
You can preorder by contacting Only The Best Firearms (OTB). Only The Best told me they required a $500 check to hold and if I remember correctly another $500+shipping upon arrival What a rip off. I got one for $800 after tax from an lgs. It's not THAT bad. They were the first the post anything about preorders anyway. No thanks. $1,000 for a gun with a MSRP of $850 when others have said they got it for less than $800 isn't bad? The price of "must have now" without shopping around. |
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Originally Posted By c7aea15:
No thanks. $1,000 for a gun with a MSRP of $850 when others have said they got it for less than $800 isn't bad? View Quote I don't think you followed the initial release/preorder of this gun at all or else you would of known OTB was the first to post availability and listed at $995. For me, I got in line as soon as I could so I got a spot for one and beat any other potential mark up. I wanted to get one for sure and don't mind paying the $150 premium. I am also confident I could sell it for at least what I paid if not more since the initial batch of guns is already gone going by what CZ-USA said on their facebook. I also took a gamble on being able to SBR it as it's unclear at this point but I'm hoping it will come through and we will be able to form 1 these pistols. I can assure you the demand for these pistols will jump once everyone finds out we can, in fact, SBR them. If not, then you'll see this pistol posted for sale, simple as that. |
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Just put a deposit down on one for 800.
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Where are y'all finding these for under $1k?
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Originally Posted By spunk:
Where are y'all finding these for under $1k? View Quote Fine it here...when in stock |
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Originally Posted By Bummey:
Originally Posted By spunk:
Where are y'all finding these for under $1k? Local dealers Which is the polite way of telling the rest of the forum "I got mine, y'alls can go pound sand." |
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Originally Posted By nightshade1:
Which is the polite way of telling the rest of the forum "I got mine, y'alls can go pound sand." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nightshade1:
Originally Posted By Bummey:
Originally Posted By spunk:
Where are y'all finding these for under $1k? Local dealers Which is the polite way of telling the rest of the forum "I got mine, y'alls can go pound sand." No way, not at all. I'm just saying that you should call up your local gun shops and talk to them about it. Local dealers will be better equipped (and under less stress from the entire internet bombarding their servers) to deal with YOU as a person and neighbor rather than "you" as a nameless faceless credit card number and IP address. Especially with the first, limited shipment of high demand models. |
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Originally Posted By Bummey:
No way, not at all. I'm just saying that you should call up your local gun shops and talk to them about it. Local dealers will be better equipped (and under less stress from the entire internet bombarding their servers) to deal with YOU as a person and neighbor rather than "you" as a nameless faceless credit card number and IP address. Especially with the first, limited shipment of high demand models. View Quote I'm curious on how the distribution of the firearms works. Does CZ import to a CZ-USA then CZ-USA send to dealers or do they go straight to dealers? Do the dealers place the orders in with CZ-USA or CZ direct? |
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Originally Posted By rtran:
I'm curious on how the distribution of the firearms works. Does CZ import to a CZ-USA then CZ-USA send to dealers or do they go straight to dealers? Do the dealers place the orders in with CZ-USA or CZ direct? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rtran:
Originally Posted By Bummey:
No way, not at all. I'm just saying that you should call up your local gun shops and talk to them about it. Local dealers will be better equipped (and under less stress from the entire internet bombarding their servers) to deal with YOU as a person and neighbor rather than "you" as a nameless faceless credit card number and IP address. Especially with the first, limited shipment of high demand models. I'm curious on how the distribution of the firearms works. Does CZ import to a CZ-USA then CZ-USA send to dealers or do they go straight to dealers? Do the dealers place the orders in with CZ-USA or CZ direct? As I understand it, CZ-USA is the importer, and most small LGS's buy from distributors, so CZ-USA is likely sending out to distribution, not the local guys. Unless your an FFL with such huge volume you negotiate all your own accounts direct with the manufacturer, then it may be different. (Not in the business, so don't crucify me if this is wrong. Just speculating) |
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Originally Posted By tifosi:
As I understand it, CZ-USA is the importer, and most small LGS's buy from distributors, so CZ-USA is likely sending out to distribution, not the local guys. Unless your an FFL with such huge volume you negotiate all your own accounts direct with the manufacturer, then it may be different. (Not in the business, so don't crucify me if this is wrong. Just speculating) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tifosi:
Originally Posted By rtran:
Originally Posted By Bummey:
No way, not at all. I'm just saying that you should call up your local gun shops and talk to them about it. Local dealers will be better equipped (and under less stress from the entire internet bombarding their servers) to deal with YOU as a person and neighbor rather than "you" as a nameless faceless credit card number and IP address. Especially with the first, limited shipment of high demand models. I'm curious on how the distribution of the firearms works. Does CZ import to a CZ-USA then CZ-USA send to dealers or do they go straight to dealers? Do the dealers place the orders in with CZ-USA or CZ direct? As I understand it, CZ-USA is the importer, and most small LGS's buy from distributors, so CZ-USA is likely sending out to distribution, not the local guys. Unless your an FFL with such huge volume you negotiate all your own accounts direct with the manufacturer, then it may be different. (Not in the business, so don't crucify me if this is wrong. Just speculating) Makes perfect sense. Thanks! |
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My LGS went to their distributor's website when I asked about the weapon....
And, they ordered 3 of them, right then and there.... ONE for me, and two for the guy's working in the shop!!!! I'm holding my breath....... |
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