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Posted: 3/7/2017 7:20:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stefan-DSO:
It's not bad at all. It is easier than the MP5 by a good bit in my opinion. You can switch the charging handle from right to left etc also if you want. Thank you, trying to decide on the APC9 or the Z5-RS, I already have the Z5-P. |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 8:51:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hulley:
Thank you, trying to decide on the APC9 or the Z5-RS, I already have the Z5-P. I'm a huge roller lock fan, so no matter which one I bought, I'd end up with both in the end. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/8/2017 11:34:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xM16a1x:
I have an APC9 and a DJ REGretz MP5 clone. I think the APC9 is a much better firearm. I'd still like a full size MP5 Zenith though. I'm a huge roller lock fan, so no matter which one I bought, I'd end up with both in the end. Curious about your comment on the DJ Getz clone. He had a great rep over at HK Pro and all of mine from him have been solid. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 9:38:24 PM EDT
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I've been out of the loop for a while, any chance someone's been working on something to adapt the TP9 to a standard trilug or direct thread?
My heart hopes yes, but my wallet hopes no. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 9:41:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ:
I've been out of the loop for a while, any chance someone's been working on something to adapt the TP9 to a standard trilug or direct thread? My heart hopes yes, but my wallet hopes no. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 9:49:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
Capitol Armory is showing an adapter for the TP9 to the Dead Air GhostM. Not exactly the same, but... Now the question is, what do I sell to fund the TP9? I got a stamp out on a MPX, I already have an evo. I also got a kimber collecting dust, never been a big 1911 guy. I got a PVS-14 I hardly use........ |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 10:12:32 PM EDT
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http://www.capitolarmory.com/dead-air-ghost-m-b-t-tp9-n-qd-adapter.html I want a TP9. Green or Brown. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 10:15:41 PM EDT
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Interesting so no actual pictures? That's cool though, gives me more time to save up.
I just love how the TP9 is the perfect cross between a pistol, and a sub gun. Sort of like the MP7 but it's a cheap caliber and its something that I can and will shoot all the time. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2017 10:43:19 PM EDT
[#9]
Does anyone have any experience with the TP9's rotex suppressor? I think these look great and am considering picking up a TP9 and the factory rotex suppressor for a compact SBR package, but I can't find any posts with people's thoughts on their effectiveness.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2017 8:54:27 AM EDT
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2017 11:52:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: yamadog35]
[#11]
Hey folks. I just recently got turned on to the B&T lineup and quickly picked up an APC9 and P26 (pic below). They're pistols for now until stamps come back, but I've been having fun with them so far. I picked up a Griffin 3 lug adapter that works perfectly in my SiCo Octane 45. This worked great on the APC9 yesterday at the range.
The guns are great, but I'm really annoyed by the right side safety lever. I naturally ride up high on the grip and it really digs in. I've been searching but haven't seen anything on it yet. Has anyone done anything with this? I'm not hoping for a drop in solution of course, but wondering if someone has done a DIY fix. Thanks! 
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2017 12:12:13 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamadog35:
Hey folks. I just recently got turned on to the B&T lineup and quickly picked up an APC9 and P26 (pic below). They're pistols for now until stamps come back, but I've been having fun with them so far. I picked up a Griffin 3 lug adapter that works perfectly in my SiCo Octane 45. This worked great on the APC9 yesterday at the range. The guns are great, but I'm really annoyed by the right side safety lever. I naturally ride up high on the grip and it really digs in. I've been searching but haven't seen anything on it yet. Has anyone done anything with this? I'm not hoping for a drop in solution of course, but wondering if someone has done a DIY fix. Thanks! http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q41/yamadog35/Forums/APC9%20and%20P26_zps20xccp6w.jpg |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2017 2:30:59 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michealj:
I ride the grip fairly high as well, but do not have any issues with the safety lever on any of my B&T guns. Shooting my Scorpion was unbearable until I replaced the right side lever. If you find a solution please post it, I'm sure there are others who are looking. 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2017 5:03:37 PM EDT
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That right side safety on the APC annoys me as well (only in fire mode). It's such a small annoyance and I'm just happy to have it that I haven't given it much thought.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2017 5:33:58 PM EDT
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Has anyone mounted backup sights on the top rail of their APC such as HK style diopter sights? I know that the APC has the somewhat fragile appearing flip-ups but curious if anyone has rail mounted sights as their main sighting system.
Thanks |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2017 6:06:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By robar300:
Has anyone mounted backup sights on the top rail of their APC such as HK style diopter sights? I know that the APC has the somewhat fragile appearing flip-ups but curious if anyone has rail mounted sights as their main sighting system. Thanks I actually like the "iron sights" on the P26 and use them as my primary sights. |
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Posted: 3/26/2017 7:29:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamadog35:
Yeah, I'm probably just being a whiner, but I hate to spend that much money on something and have at least a perception that there's something wrong. The firing impulse causes my hand to slide higher and higher and then the lever rubs back and forth. I had quite a red spot on my hand after 200 rounds total between the two guns yesterday. I don't own a Scorpion, but I've shot a friend's in factory config and agree that it was worse. http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q41/yamadog35/Forums/Safety%20Discomfort%20P26_zpst1s4e8ft.jpg That's all I've got... |
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Posted: 3/28/2017 6:10:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michealj:
I ride the grip fairly high as well, but do not have any issues with the safety lever on any of my B&T guns. Shooting my Scorpion was unbearable until I replaced the right side lever. If you find a solution please post it, I'm sure there are others who are looking. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michealj:
Originally Posted By yamadog35:
Hey folks. I just recently got turned on to the B&T lineup and quickly picked up an APC9 and P26 (pic below). They're pistols for now until stamps come back, but I've been having fun with them so far. I picked up a Griffin 3 lug adapter that works perfectly in my SiCo Octane 45. This worked great on the APC9 yesterday at the range. The guns are great, but I'm really annoyed by the right side safety lever. I naturally ride up high on the grip and it really digs in. I've been searching but haven't seen anything on it yet. Has anyone done anything with this? I'm not hoping for a drop in solution of course, but wondering if someone has done a DIY fix. Thanks! http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q41/yamadog35/Forums/APC9%20and%20P26_zps20xccp6w.jpg |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2017 3:30:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wabostyle:
FYI..... The USW has been approved for import. https://www.instagram.com/p/BRvPZaiD-WM/ |
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USA
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Posted: 3/29/2017 7:13:12 PM EDT
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Can anyone post some accuracy pics of their APC9 at 25 yards?
Interested to see what kind of groups everyone else is getting. So far I'm finding mine to be significantly less accurate than the HK SP5k or the CZ Scorpion. Would appreciate any target pics you fine folks may have. Thanks! -Freq |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:22:49 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freq18hz:
Can anyone post some accuracy pics of their APC9 at 25 yards? Interested to see what kind of groups everyone else is getting. So far I'm finding mine to be significantly less accurate than the HK SP5k or the CZ Scorpion. Would appreciate any target pics you fine folks may have. Thanks! -Freq Are you running yours suppressed? What ammo? Does the crown look ok? |
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USA
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Posted: 3/31/2017 12:19:36 AM EDT
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Crown looks ok, have tried a variety of ammo. Would be great to see pics of how others are shooting from a rest.
-Freq |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/31/2017 5:38:32 PM EDT
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Any updates on GHM9 release?
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2017 9:55:41 PM EDT
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Saw a green TP9 where I got my APC. Volunteer Ordnance in Cleveland TN.
Also waiting for the GHM. |
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Posted: 4/2/2017 5:49:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freq18hz:
Crown looks ok, have tried a variety of ammo. Would be great to see pics of how others are shooting from a rest. -Freq 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2017 6:15:52 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DPS1331:
Any updates on GHM9 release? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2017 11:02:08 PM EDT
[#27]
Does anyone have a contact person at B&T US that can help me with a warranty issue? If so please IM me. Thanks.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:30:02 PM EDT
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Anyone know where I can find an APC 223 pistol to SBR? Which dealers are selling these?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2017 9:33:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dana1972:
Anyone know where I can find an APC 223 pistol to SBR? Which dealers are selling these? |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:16:40 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamadog35:
Hey folks. I just recently got turned on to the B&T lineup and quickly picked up an APC9 and P26 (pic below). They're pistols for now until stamps come back, but I've been having fun with them so far. I picked up a Griffin 3 lug adapter that works perfectly in my SiCo Octane 45. This worked great on the APC9 yesterday at the range. The guns are great, but I'm really annoyed by the right side safety lever. I naturally ride up high on the grip and it really digs in. I've been searching but haven't seen anything on it yet. Has anyone done anything with this? I'm not hoping for a drop in solution of course, but wondering if someone has done a DIY fix. Thanks! http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q41/yamadog35/Forums/APC9%20and%20P26_zps20xccp6w.jpg |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:27:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bruecken:
Its definitely not any official information, but it looks like this French website has an idea what the redesigned GHM9 will look like and gives an ETA of June (for the European market I assume). They have some great pieces at low prices we can't get hear because of the once a full-auto, always bull shit..... not available in America! The prices on US production weapons are high, but, you can get a VZ26 for 349.00 €! Vz61 for 359.95€! They even have Kel-Tec in stock  !
But damn, 1229.90€ for a Beretta Storm. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2017 7:02:46 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FADALdude:
How do you like the Atlantic Firearms AR tube adapter? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FADALdude:
Originally Posted By yamadog35:
Hey folks. I just recently got turned on to the B&T lineup and quickly picked up an APC9 and P26 (pic below). They're pistols for now until stamps come back, but I've been having fun with them so far. I picked up a Griffin 3 lug adapter that works perfectly in my SiCo Octane 45. This worked great on the APC9 yesterday at the range. The guns are great, but I'm really annoyed by the right side safety lever. I naturally ride up high on the grip and it really digs in. I've been searching but haven't seen anything on it yet. Has anyone done anything with this? I'm not hoping for a drop in solution of course, but wondering if someone has done a DIY fix. Thanks! http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q41/yamadog35/Forums/APC9%20and%20P26_zps20xccp6w.jpg Bolted to the adapter I used these two products from Stormwerkz: Hinge - http://stormwerkz.com/stock-folding-mechanisms/stock-folding-mechanism-standard/ Female Tube Adapter - http://stormwerkz.com/stock-adapters/universal-carbine-adapter/ Then of course the Shockwave Blade and related tube. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2017 6:45:13 PM EDT
[#33]
Finally got some optics for the B&T projects, but the P26 still has no love yet...
I'm not sure how crazy I am about the BCM KAG on the apc9. I usually like the feel of them, but I think I might try the B&T vert grip instead. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 10:09:59 AM EDT
[#34]
Does anyone worry about the APC9 being discontinued or running out of parts availability for them?
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2017 11:26:26 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slimjim:
Does anyone worry about the APC9 being discontinued or running out of parts availability for them? |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 12:53:46 AM EDT
[#36]
Shot ~500 rounds through the APC9 so far. Flawless function with 115gr PPU, 124gr Speer Lawman, 115gr S&B, 124gr MEN, 124gr Speer GoldDot HP & 147gr Winchester Ranger HP. It shoots nearly as smooth as the 9mm MP5 family roller-lock guns
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Posted: 5/10/2017 1:31:34 PM EDT
[#37]
Did B&T USAgo into hiding? They used to reply to my emails but no longer do, and no I havent been annoying them with excessive communication.
I keep checking their social media as well but it seems they have quieted down on hyping their products. Maybe it is just me wanting the USW sooner than later! 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2017 4:43:14 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By browning43:
Did B&T USAgo into hiding? They used to reply to my emails but no longer do, and no I havent been annoying them with excessive communication. I keep checking their social media as well but it seems they have quieted down on hyping their products. Maybe it is just me wanting the USW sooner than later! |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 12:52:58 PM EDT
[#39]
For the handful of people who own both, how does the build quality and reliability of the p26 compare to the APC9?
I've read that the APC is for serious use while the KH9 was always intended to be more of a range toy, does the same apply to the P26? |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2017 3:54:15 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brooklynite:
For the handful of people who own both, how does the build quality and reliability of the p26 compare to the APC9? I've read that the APC is for serious use while the KH9 was always intended to be more of a range toy, does the same apply to the P26? |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2017 7:58:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michealj:
The quality and reliability of the P26 is just as good as the APC. I believe the materials and features of the APC set it apart from the P26 which is why the APC has a higher price point. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 2:22:26 PM EDT
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Here is some info on the Beretta PMX-D7 aka the B+T P26:
Military Magazine Article  NUOVA DOTAZIONE DI REPARTO AL POSTO DEL PM12 BERETTA! |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2017 5:06:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Looks like brownells is carrying B&T guns now, take a look at that nice GHM9 side view!
http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=cl&pw=55963&ctc=j2wc5ddsyn00zk8a00y51&mi=10077&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fmanufacturers%2FBzzxzzT%252BUSA%2Findex.htm# |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2017 10:05:07 AM EDT
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Sorry if it has been covered I looked through this thread, but has anyone figured out the trigger compatibility? I saw installing a geissele was mentioned along with a possible modification being needed, but didn't see a definitive answer. Thanks!
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2017 4:28:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: robar300]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 01Dc4:
Sorry if it has been covered I looked through this thread, but has anyone figured out the trigger compatibility? I saw installing a geissele was mentioned along with a possible modification being needed, but didn't see a definitive answer. Thanks! |
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USA
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Posted: 5/25/2017 11:33:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Guiselle takes grinding on the hammer, it rubs in the front of the trigger well. I put a nice elftman in mine and it dropped right in and works fine, I did the straight 2.5 lb single stage and it's pretty sweet.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/26/2017 7:06:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rotortuner:
Guiselle takes grinding on the hammer, it rubs in the front of the trigger well. I put a nice elftman in mine and it dropped right in and works fine, I did the straight 2.5 lb single stage and it's pretty sweet. |
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Posted: 5/31/2017 1:02:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rotortuner]
[#48]
The stock trigger is a nice trigger, I just didn't like having a 2 stage on this particular gun. This is the elftman 3 gun single stage. It's quite light and essentially zero creep and super short reset. I have a hyper fire and a bunch of guisele triggers in other guns, this is my favorite trigger out of all of them. I have only had it in the gun for a couple hundred rounds so can't comment on longevity but so far I'm impressed. This just dropped right in, no grinding like on other triggers with the wrong hammer profile.
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Posted: 5/31/2017 9:18:07 PM EDT
[#49]
interesting, I may have to look into this trigger
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2017 11:05:21 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm going to ask what is going to sound like a really stupid question, but is there a trick to getting the safety mechanism out of the APC9? I was looking into a drop in trigger, but for the life of me couldn't get the safety out to remove the factory trigger. I'm sure there's something simple I'm not seeing and I'm going to be real embarrassed when I see how easy it really is.
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