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Link Posted: 1/28/2017 10:34:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xM16a1x:
Great news about the GHM9, I'd get one if I already didn't have an APC9.

Wish there was some solid info on when the full length rifle was gonna show up. Thought I heard something about them changing the lower to accept AR-15 grips? I'd love to see the grip they are putting on the APC 308 make it on the 223 version.
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The rifle is being reevaluated by the ATF. They came up with an ingenious way to bring it in without 922r worries, but the ATF didn't like it.
Link Posted: 1/28/2017 11:02:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:


The rifle is being reevaluated by the ATF. They came up with an ingenious way to bring it in without 922r worries, but the ATF didn't like it.
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Guess we'll be waiting awhile. Thanks for the info.

These stupid import laws need to go away.
Link Posted: 1/28/2017 11:04:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xM16a1x:
Guess we'll be waiting awhile. Thanks for the info.

These stupid import laws need to go away.
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It may only be a matter of months.

Agreed though. Stupid all around.
Link Posted: 1/28/2017 11:21:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:


It may only be a matter of months.

Agreed though. Stupid all around.
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Hopefully by summer we'll see them. Already have my pennies saved up for one.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:23:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wabostyle:
Tim is a great guy. I am honestly suprised he picks up the phone when I call with questions. You would think he is too busy running a company to talk us.....

Goloud, thanks for the update. Regarding the P26, does that mean there is no P26SD coming?

Required B&T porn:
http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag385/lee1169/20170127_205117_zpsfulhxxpn.jpg
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Wow.  That forward mount on your TP9 is getting rare.
Link Posted: 2/2/2017 4:58:55 PM EDT
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B&T Pics @ TFB

A bunch of extra pics I had taken st SHOT.
Link Posted: 2/3/2017 11:58:31 AM EDT
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Dose anyone know if we are going to see the tp9-n soon?

Thanks in advance
Link Posted: 2/4/2017 4:37:09 AM EDT
[#8]
hi

i have one since 2years and im pretty happy...

+its a good quality, nice finish etc
+its probably the most reliable smg ive shot so far, it takes from 95grain up to 158grain flat nose subsonic all with no malfunctions.
+recoil is easy to control (but i have a mounted muzzlebreak on the 3 lug) for example the EVO3 has some kind of twist around the barrel axe while shooting which i dont like and with a mp5 the felt recoil is harder.
+the trigger is like you said an ar15 trigger which is easy to change.
+magazines are cheap compared to other smgs

-what i dont like about the gun is that you cant change the pistolgrip, its one part with the complete lower.
-the backup sights arent exactly what i would call high quality...

i hope this helps.
Link Posted: 2/4/2017 1:41:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/7/2017 12:16:48 PM EDT
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Before I order my APC9, the cheapest price I'm seeing is at G&R Tactical.

Anyone else have a go to B&T dealer?
Link Posted: 2/7/2017 12:48:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:
Before I order my APC9, the cheapest price I'm seeing is at G&R Tactical.

Anyone else have a go to B&T dealer?
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Not an endorsement of these guys, simply the cheapest price I could find.
https://www.riflegear.com/p-6552-bt-apc9-pistol-9mm-30rd.aspx
Link Posted: 2/7/2017 1:10:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:
Before I order my APC9, the cheapest price I'm seeing is at G&R Tactical.

Anyone else have a go to B&T dealer?
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I would check copper custom and see if they have any more of the APC9/Aimpoint packages. That is if you have any need for an Optic for it. The package was less expensive than getting the aimpoint and APC separately last time I looked.

DT is also a B&T dealer.
Link Posted: 2/7/2017 11:50:42 PM EDT
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Thanks to you both above.

I bought an APC9 with the brace. Can I join the club?

G&R Tactical still worked out cheaper for me with the brace package deal.

A 3-Lug MK9K will eventually live on it.

With any luck, it will be here next week.
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 1:00:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:
Thanks to you both above.

I bought an APC9 with the brace. Can I join the club?

G&R Tactical still worked out cheaper for me with the brace package deal.

A 3-Lug MK9K will eventually live on it.

With any luck, it will be here next week.
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So what's your story? Kids graduated college and you've freed up a ton of cash or did you win a small lottery?
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 6:59:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:

So what's your story? Kids graduated college and you've freed up a ton of cash or did you win a small lottery?
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Ha. Just hadn't bought anything in awhile...
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 3:19:48 PM EDT
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As far as the USW goes do we know when it will be available?
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 3:42:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By browning43:
As far as the USW goes do we know when it will be available?
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4-6 months estimate. I believe it's with the ATF now.
Link Posted: 2/9/2017 7:59:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:
Before I order my APC9, the cheapest price I'm seeing is at G&R Tactical.

Anyone else have a go to B&T dealer?
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Ranier Arms , great price and great service/fast shipping.
Link Posted: 2/11/2017 10:16:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:
Thanks to you both above.

I bought an APC9 with the brace. Can I join the club?

G&R Tactical still worked out cheaper for me with the brace package deal.

A 3-Lug MK9K will eventually live on it.

With any luck, it will be here next week.
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Form 1 planned or going to stick with brace?
Link Posted: 2/11/2017 10:24:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WillysJeep:


Form 1 planned or going to stick with brace?
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Brace for now. I'd love to Form 1 it, but engraving such a beautiful gun doesn't seem right.
Link Posted: 2/11/2017 12:25:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:


Brace for now. I'd love to Form 1 it, but engraving such a beautiful gun doesn't seem right.
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No hidden spots like trigger guards or anything?
Link Posted: 2/11/2017 12:58:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:


Brace for now. I'd love to Form 1 it, but engraving such a beautiful gun doesn't seem right.
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Unless you brace was built better and fits better than mine, the engraving will be the lesser of two evils. The brace serves a purpose, but is merely a place holder for the actual B&T stock.
Link Posted: 2/11/2017 1:02:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By michealj:


Unless you brace was built better and fits better than mine, the engraving will be the lesser of two evils. The brace serves a purpose, but is merely a place holder for the actual B&T stock.
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Well, it looks like I'll be doing a Form 1 soon.

I wish EForms was still around.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 5:52:17 PM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_2/1951605_New-Armory-Subform---BandT.html

Want a dedicated B&T forum? Please reply to the post above.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 7:31:21 PM EDT
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Somewhat upset about the GMH9 redesign and delay. I like the top cocker although I would prefer a larger knob.

Oh well, I suppose the delay will give gear head works time to come up with a Tailhook brace for B&T guns. I still intend to get a GMH9 if only because I wrote a story with a gun in it that is basically a GMH9 chambered in 10mm before I even knew of the existence of the GMH9.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:39:17 AM EDT
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I wonder if one of you gents with a P26 might have the ability to measure the ID of the receiver around the barrel? I'm curious how large a tube could fit under there around the barrel.

Thanks!

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:03:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Atlmike:
I wonder if one of you gents with a P26 might have the ability to measure the ID of the receiver around the barrel? I'm curious how large a tube could fit under there around the barrel.

Thanks!

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
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At the muzzle:

X=1.440"
Y=1.466"

The picatinny rails are secured by 4 machine screws that protrude the X axis by ~.094", these could possible be replaced.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:11:14 PM EDT
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Thank you! Much appreciated!

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:16:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Atlmike:
Thank you! Much appreciated!

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
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personal project or AAC project? Spill the beans
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 2:24:13 PM EDT
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Personal, for now. With so few P26's imported, there won't be a business case for Big Green. But I'll share what come up with :). Small, esoteric, specialty projects are my passion.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 3:14:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Atlmike:
Personal, for now. With so few P26's imported, there won't be a business case for Big Green. But I'll share what come up with :). Small, esoteric, specialty projects are my passion.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
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Also since B&T is planning to release an SD barrel/supressor for the P26 there is such a small market it would only be single digit customers.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 3:00:14 PM EDT
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Just got a look at my P26. I was very impressed to see that the knurled thread protector is dead-on 15mm diameter; perfect for use with a spring loaded 3-lug silencer adapter and/or flash hider. Most knurled thread protectors on MP-5's and clones are over 15mm and will interfere with most three-lug silencer mounts, necessitating the purchase of a smooth, 15mm thread protector. It is really nice to see a manufacturer sweat the small details like this!

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
Link Posted: 2/18/2017 3:40:25 AM EDT
[#33]
Swiss precision is not a joke...
Link Posted: 2/20/2017 1:34:21 PM EDT
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Any dealers stock the B&T bag for the MP9?
I don't want to have to import it.
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 7:47:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/22/2017 8:22:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:
Any dealers stock the B&T bag for the MP9?
I don't want to have to import it.
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http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/MP9-TP9-BRASS-CATCHER-SWISS-MADE-8p3616.htm

https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=17286&idcategory=0
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 8:40:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By goloud:
Thanks to you both above.

I bought an APC9 with the brace. Can I join the club?

G&R Tactical still worked out cheaper for me with the brace package deal.

A 3-Lug MK9K will eventually live on it.

With any luck, it will be here next week.
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Has yours come in? Thoughts on set up with brace?
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 8:45:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WillysJeep:


Has yours come in? Thoughts on set up with brace?
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The brace isn't bad. Better than not having anything.

But I will be SBRing it.

It's such a nice little gun.
Link Posted: 2/23/2017 1:48:36 AM EDT
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I am on the verge of having al the funds ready to go for a purchase and I can't decide between APC 9, APC 45, or the P26. I know the P26 is half the price and I could pull the trigger on that today if I so desired. I jut want to make sure I am going to enjoy the gun. 
Link Posted: 2/23/2017 2:26:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By scarshooter:
I am on the verge of having al the funds ready to go for a purchase and I can't decide between APC 9, APC 45, or the P26. I know the P26 is half the price and I could pull the trigger on that today if I so desired. I jut want to make sure I am going to enjoy the gun. 
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If it were me, I'd go with the APC 9.  A 9mm PCC is a lot cheaper over time to run than a 45.
Link Posted: 2/23/2017 5:08:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By scarshooter:
I am on the verge of having al the funds ready to go for a purchase and I can't decide between APC 9, APC 45, or the P26. I know the P26 is half the price and I could pull the trigger on that today if I so desired. I jut want to make sure I am going to enjoy the gun. 
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Get the apc9. Cheaper to shoot, mags are cheaper. I have owned the 45 also but got rid of it because it was picky on ammo but the 9 isn't.
Link Posted: 2/23/2017 7:06:50 PM EDT
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Three Lug Thursday
Link Posted: 2/24/2017 8:32:42 PM EDT
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Thanks for the links.  I already have THAT bag.  I wasn't clear

I am looking for a domestic retailer for this:

Attachment Attached File


Also, FUCK YEAH for those TP9 owners who have been blown off by suppressor manufacturers when all they wanted to do was make a non-NFA TP9 carbine with their 3 lug barrel (All I need is the adapter):

Blast Deflector Muzzle Attachment

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Link Posted: 2/25/2017 5:23:44 AM EDT
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Hmm, apparently the bag is designed for concealed firing. Quoting from the B&T catalog "Discreet carry & firing bag - This cleverly designed bag appears to be a normal laptop bag from the outside. In reality it is an actual firing platform that enables the operator to shoot the MP9-N with the suppressor and brass catcher mounted without having to remove it from the bag. It is ideal for close protection, surveillance and undercover operations"

In another words, AOW.
Link Posted: 2/27/2017 1:26:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MercesLetifer:
hi

i have one since 2years and im pretty happy...

+its a good quality, nice finish etc
+its probably the most reliable smg ive shot so far, it takes from 95grain up to 158grain flat nose subsonic all with no malfunctions.
+recoil is easy to control (but i have a mounted muzzlebreak on the 3 lug) for example the EVO3 has some kind of twist around the barrel axe while shooting which i dont like and with a mp5 the felt recoil is harder.
+the trigger is like you said an ar15 trigger which is easy to change.
+magazines are cheap compared to other smgs

-what i dont like about the gun is that you cant change the pistolgrip, its one part with the complete lower.
-the backup sights arent exactly what i would call high quality...

i hope this helps.
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Welcome! What model do you have? Is is select fire or semi-auto only? Where in Switzerland are you?  I spent a weekend in Zurich last spring, if I was a multi millionaire I'd have a house on the lake there with an old wood boat, great city.

If I would have known about the APC9 before getting my HK SP5K things may have turned out differently. I did get a few B&T accessories for it though.
Link Posted: 3/1/2017 12:50:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/2/2017 10:42:48 PM EDT
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Shit! First the M110 can and now this! Sweet setup.

I have a SP5K that I picked up before I knew about the B&T(probably would have gone that way), that's the can I want to get for it.
Link Posted: 3/4/2017 9:37:52 PM EDT
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The APC9 is such a nice shooter. Highly impressed.

Link Posted: 3/7/2017 12:17:57 PM EDT
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How's the charging effort on the APC9? I'm referring to when the hammer has been release and you need to charge the weapon for the first time. I find the Z5-P to have a really high effort, high enough that my wife cannot charge it so that means she doesn't like to shoot it.
Link Posted: 3/7/2017 6:06:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hulley:
How's the charging effort on the APC9? I'm referring to when the hammer has been release and you need to charge the weapon for the first time. I find the Z5-P to have a really high effort, high enough that my wife cannot charge it so that means she doesn't like to shoot it.
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It's not bad at all. It is easier than the MP5 by a good bit in my opinion. You can switch the charging handle from right to left etc also if you want.
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