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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:49:37 AM EDT
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Marlin JM marked 1894 in .357.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:52:31 AM EDT
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In terms of versatility it is hard to go wrong with a 38/357 Marlin, Rossi, Winchester. I have an older Marlin in 357. It holds 10 rounds and will handle anything from .38 powder puff loads to my Burn/Deafen/Blind 180 gr 357 loads. I put a Weaver aperture sight on it and am very happy with the performance. The same in 44 spl/mag would do the job but with more recoil.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:57:52 AM EDT
[#3]
44 magnum.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:00:53 AM EDT
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Is a "leaver" gun similar to a burner phone or throw down gun?
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:02:19 AM EDT
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I say .30/30, even though I don't own one, and do own a pistol caliber Rossi M92.
Pistol caliber lever carbines are great at close range, and good on 2 and 4 legged predators. But, a do all rifle should be chambered for a rifle cartridge. Not that you are going to get great results at 600 meters with even the newest rubber tipped spitzer ammunition, but it is much better than any pistol caliber. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:02:58 AM EDT
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.357 mag.
Eleventymillion ammo choices. Plenty of oomph for short range work. Light and handy. Resale good on them. I'd go with a Marlin or Win 92 type for strength. The 1873 design is too weak for nuke'um from orbit monkey death car atomic reloads. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:25:36 AM EDT
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I'd have to go 30/30 if it is an all around gun plus hunting. Stay away from the pistol calibers if you ever plan on shooting past 100 yards. Cheap, cheap ammo and when needed Hornady for the 200 yard shots.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:46:31 AM EDT
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"Do all" = 45-70: 1,300 ft-lb black powder loads to elephant-stopping 2,700 ft-lb loads.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:48:27 AM EDT
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.357 mag. Eleventymillion ammo choices. Plenty of oomph for short range work. Light and handy. Resale good on them. I'd go with a Marlin or Win 92 type for strength. The 1873 design is too weak for nuke'um from orbit monkey death car atomic reloads.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:50:59 AM EDT
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30-30 works real good.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 11:52:18 AM EDT
[#11]
.444
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Posted: 6/18/2017 12:05:46 PM EDT
[#12]
Savage model 99 in 308win
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Posted: 6/18/2017 12:22:14 PM EDT
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454 Casull or 44 Mag
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Posted: 6/18/2017 12:32:47 PM EDT
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.30-.30 Winchester Model 94. I have several different calibers in lever guns, but for cheap ammo and being able to get most things done, this is the one.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 12:37:57 PM EDT
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I would have to say 45-70. Most of my shooting is with trapdoor level loads that are easy on the shoulder but can be loaded hot enough to take any game animal on the planet. I recently cut and threaded mine for a can so can shoot it without ear pro too.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 3:17:25 PM EDT
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Do all? I would go for a Browning BLR takedown in 30-06......
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Posted: 6/18/2017 3:18:49 PM EDT
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Get one chambered in 357 magnum.
If you reload, you can create mouse fart loads for it or full power 357 loads (158 gr bullet at well over 2,000 fps from a 20" barrel). Use the 357 brass for both to preclude feeding issues. If you need a full power rifle round for grizzly bear defense, get a different rifle. The lever will do everything else, plinking to hunting, given the right ammunition. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 3:33:40 PM EDT
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35 Rem
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Posted: 6/18/2017 4:16:54 PM EDT
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Is a "leaver" gun similar to a burner phone or throw down gun? 
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Posted: 6/18/2017 4:22:20 PM EDT
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Granpa's 30-30 with a nice low power variable, red dot, or a set of peep sights would work great. Skinner, XS, and Williams make excellent sighting options. BUT, that doesn't get you a cool new gun. My lever action 44 and my buddies lever 357 have been the most fun I've had at the range recently. Cowboy 44spcl loads are probably close to hearing safe out of a 20in barrel. XS sights on my 44 make 50 and 100yd shots much easier.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 6:28:17 PM EDT
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I've only considered a lever gun because I don't like working and loading/unloading a bolt action.
Semi's are more complicated, usually heavier and not as reliable, not sold on the pump action Remington's and single shots are slow to reload. Then there's the caliber options for any particular gun. I prefer detachable magazines and want to forward mount a scout scope. Wanting a do-all caliber from coyotes to moose I have chosen a Browning BLR takedown in .358 winchester. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 7:16:16 PM EDT
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30-30 Upwards of 10 million made. That's a lot of votes.
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Posted: 6/18/2017 8:02:05 PM EDT
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I've pretty much settled on a 30-30 for what you are talking about. I went through my tactical phase and now I'm back to reality. I still have an AR just because, but these are my go to's right now.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 12:00:46 AM EDT
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Marlin JM marked 1894 in .357. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 10:21:57 AM EDT
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Rossi 1892 in .45/454 Casull. Powder puff .45 cowboy loads for plinking on up to Moose dropping .454 Casull. With a 20" barrel it is a sweet carry gun.
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Posted: 6/20/2017 10:54:29 AM EDT
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I've pretty much settled on a 30-30 for what you are talking about. I went through my tactical phase and now I'm back to reality. I still have an AR just because, but these are my go to's right now. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2261/IMG-2658-233823.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2261/IMG-2765-233826.JPG As far as an all around rifle one probably has to consider ammo availability. I'd agree with the .38/.357 or .30/.30 choices/ |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 6:56:12 PM EDT
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 Attached FileDecisions decisions. Top to bottom all JM marked 336 in 30/30 336 in 35 Remington 444P in 444 Marlin 1894 in 357 magnum I know! Take'm all. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 7:16:42 PM EDT
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Since pistol ammo interchangeability isn't desired I've got to say 30-30.
I don't think there's much of anything in Georgia that it can't handle and it's commonly available. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 7:38:24 PM EDT
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44 magnum. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 9:21:47 PM EDT
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I was in the same boat as you. I had several lever guns that I foolishly got rid of in my BRD delirium. After some research I came to the conclusion that the .45-70 Govt was the most versatile caliber. There are .45-70 ammo loaded really mild or you can use some heavy magnum loads and literally take out anything that walks the earth. If you have any interest at all in handloading the .45-70 will give many options. You can always download the .45-70 to shoot like the lesser calibers but you can't upload the other calibers to shoot like the .45-70!
A couple months ago I picked up a Marlin/Remlin 1895 GBL. I put a XS sight rail on it because I prefer the ghost ring sights and it's just about perfect for me. My AR's are getting jealous of this gun. Like you I was looking for a gun I could throw in my truck and take everywhere and do everything with. A TEOTWAKI rifle is what I wanted, I believe I've found the one for me.
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Posted: 6/20/2017 9:27:40 PM EDT
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44 magnum. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 9:30:35 PM EDT
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35 Rem |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 12:35:51 AM EDT
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I hit a steel torso at 420 yards using my 20" Rossi in 357 being pushed by 17 grains of Lil' Gun @ 1,750 fps.
Bullet was Hornady 158gr XTP. Bullet hit the steel pretty hard. Very efficient considering I used 33% less powder than 5.56. I also hit the same target using a cast 158gr bullet in front of 6.2gr of CFE Pistol powder @ 1,300 fps. 357 is a very versatile cartridge. 6-17 grains of powders can give you low pressure plinking loads to 1,400 ft/lb loads that will kill most things in North America within 100 yards. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 1:12:20 AM EDT
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Way back in the day the 44-40 was the "Swiss army knife" cartridge option. Same ammo for your saddle carbine (lever gun) and your carry pistol.
Today you could do the same with a 357/44mag/45LC lever pistol combo. The dirty Harry option would be a good lever gun in 44 mag and a Desert Eagle. The Arnold option would be a Lever in 45-70 with an IMI BFR in 45-70gov. - This option and lots of practice ammo will terminate your ammo supply budget. The not so crazy Hillbilly option might be a lever in good old 30-30 and an IMI BFR in 30-30. This makes sense if your a reloader as 30-30 has all sorts of custom possibilities from hot loaded spire point FMJBT loaded single - to 90gr squib loads using RED DOT. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 1:45:22 AM EDT
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this bonus of using bullets for the .357 mag. and being easier on the shoulder to boot! Even in its factory form it's no slouch. Only drawback is cartridge availability. Since the old girl ain't that popular anymore ammo usually only shows up during hunting season. So if you go this route see what she likes then stock up! Around these here parts first day of buck will see the die hards with these calibers-30/30, 30-06, 270 Win. and .35 Rem. She's a thumper fer sure. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 2:42:18 AM EDT
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If you reload, or hunt, I would say 44 magnum. You can load it way down to 850 fps plinker or way up to 1800 fps 200 grain screamers. In the 240 load you can take every animal in the continental US.
If you don't reload, or don't hunt, I would say 357 magnum. Cheaper ammo, easier to shoot, plenty of ammo options, and a general good time. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 12:20:05 PM EDT
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44 magnum. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:01:58 PM EDT
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Thanks for the input everyone. I am still looking at rifles and trying to determine what route I want to go. I am leaning towards 30-30 simply due to the fact that the 336 I have is already in 30-30 and itll give me two rifles in the same caliber.
I do like the fact though that 38/357 is virtually everywhere and I would end up shooting it more often probably. Ill end up with a 38/357, another 30-30 and a 45-70 before I am done, get them all right?
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Posted: 6/22/2017 6:36:16 AM EDT
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Thanks for the input everyone. I am still looking at rifles and trying to determine what route I want to go. I am leaning towards 30-30 simply due to the fact that the 336 I have is already in 30-30 and itll give me two rifles in the same caliber. I do like the fact though that 38/357 is virtually everywhere and I would end up shooting it more often probably. Ill end up with a 38/357, another 30-30 and a 45-70 before I am done, get them all right? Let us know what you get! |
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Posted: 6/22/2017 8:28:33 AM EDT
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30-30 or 357.
If you wanted oddball. 38-55. 35 Remington would be similar but more modern. Both are not found conveniently everywhere. |
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Posted: 6/22/2017 8:46:20 AM EDT
[#41]
This may not be an issue, but a pistol caliber rifle can be used on most pistol ranges.
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Posted: 6/22/2017 9:01:54 AM EDT
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This may not be an issue, but a pistol caliber rifle can be used on most pistol ranges. Any of you .357/38 SPL carbine guys get accuracy out of your carbines? I had a Rossi Puma .357/38 that couldn't hit crap past 30 yards even with a redneck scope slapped on it. Most any bullets I put through went wild after 30-40 yards. I did take a nice little 6 point buck with it at 20 yards so there is that. |
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Posted: 6/22/2017 9:29:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2017 10:00:21 AM EDT
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I have the Rossi in .38/357, blued 20 inch, but I much prefer my Rossi 16 inch Stainless in 44.
From my mild .44 Special reloads up to stout factory 44 Magnum loads, I don't think I have a more versatile gun. |
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Posted: 6/22/2017 10:22:37 AM EDT
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Trying to do the same right now OP, I'm about 95% sure I'll go with the .357 Henry Big Boy Steel in either rifle or carbine form.
But for some reason I keep thinking about going a touch bigger with the 44 or 45 option and getting a revolver to pair with it. I already have 2 .357 revolvers though and don't have any need for the bigger caliber in a revolver form and have a .30-30 for bigger rifle needs. .357 can be found everywhere, has great load options and from what I've seen is good on game under 150lbs within 100 yards or so, and that's without going the Buffalo Bore route. |
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Posted: 6/22/2017 1:56:50 PM EDT
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Savage model 99 in 308win |
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Posted: 6/22/2017 2:40:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any of you .357/38 SPL carbine guys get accuracy out of your carbines? I had a Rossi Puma .357/38 that couldn't hit crap past 30 yards even with a redneck scope slapped on it. Most any bullets I put through went wild after 30-40 yards. I did take a nice little 6 point buck with it at 20 yards so there is that. 
Both are great fun, cheap to shoot (cheaper than 22mag), and reasonably accurate. How reasonably? I'm 69yrs old and can hit a 4" steel plate at 100yds with the carbine from a rest and love shooting at bowling pins at 200yds with my rifle using the tang and globe sights. |
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Posted: 6/22/2017 2:56:55 PM EDT
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You should be getting much better accuracy than that so something is wrong, be it mechanical, ammo, or shooting skill related. I have 2 Rossis, a 24" rifle and 20" carbine and both are accurate. Both have over 4K rds of my 158grn, full power handloads through them and work great. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN2840.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/Coloradoglocker/DSCN2830.jpg Both are great fun, cheap to shoot (cheaper than 22mag), and reasonably accurate. How reasonably? I'm 69yrs old and can hit a 4" steel plate at 100yds with the carbine from a rest and love shooting at bowling pins at 200yds with my rifle using the tang and globe sights.  I also never said it wasn't fun cuz they are very fun to plink with. I'm thinking this one had a really loose bore for the 20" but not worried about it now as I sold it a while ago. Just curious if that was a fluke or common with the Puma in that caliber.
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Posted: 6/22/2017 3:06:22 PM EDT
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BLR / .358 Winchester
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Posted: 6/22/2017 8:31:05 PM EDT
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Thanks for the input everyone. I am still looking at rifles and trying to determine what route I want to go. I am leaning towards 30-30 simply due to the fact that the 336 I have is already in 30-30 and itll give me two rifles in the same caliber. I do like the fact though that 38/357 is virtually everywhere and I would end up shooting it more often probably. Ill end up with a 38/357, another 30-30 and a 45-70 before I am done, get them all right? |
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