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Posted: 10/8/2016 1:35:35 PM EDT
Greetings, Gents! I come humbly seeking advice on a lever gun for Whitetail Deer. The property I usually hunt on offers a fairly small fire zone that doesn't put bullets in the paths of houses, farms, livestock, etc. The farthest shot I can take is probably inside 75 yards; the deer I took last year was at about 40-50 yards. My .270 may be a little hot for that distance, so I was considering stepping down to a lever gun in .357 or .44 magnum.

Anyone else here hunt deer in those calibers? What bullet weights should I consider? Any particular brand of rifle to stay away from? Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/8/2016 2:43:02 PM EDT
[#1]
I think you'd be fine. Would you be under gunned with either of those in a revolver? You might also look for a Marlin 336 in .35 Rem or .444 if you want something less ordinary. But there's nothing wrong with 30-30 either.
Link Posted: 10/8/2016 6:06:18 PM EDT
[#2]
.44 Mag has always worked for me on whitetails up to 100 yards in a Marlin with a red dot.
Link Posted: 10/8/2016 7:02:07 PM EDT
[#3]
No disagreements with anything anyone else has said but a 45/70 with trapdoor type loads (405 lead going about 1150-1200fps) are pretty much the equivalent of a slug gun but easier to hit with generally . A big slug that slow will kill like a bolt of lighting but will not go much extra distance if you miss .

I am not a fan of most of the currently available lever guns for various reasons (fit finish price and so forth) and would recommend you grab your cash and start searching the auction sites and used gun stores for a used original Winchester or Marlin . For your close up type of hunting all the mentioned calibers can work so I would let that decide itself if/when you find a gun at a nice price / condition
Link Posted: 10/9/2016 9:31:02 AM EDT
[#4]
Sounds like a Marlin 336 in 30-30 or 35 Rem would be perfect for what you described.
Link Posted: 10/9/2016 10:46:01 AM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for all the responses, guys! LOTS of .30-30s (and a couple .35 and .32 Winchester Specials) on my local Armslist and local shops. A .30-30 would be easiest to find. However, I was more curious about the .357 or .44...for as light carrying and shooting a carbine as possible that could also be paired with a revolver for the woods and used for plinking here and there. Biggest game for me would be a Whitetail (maybe even Wild Boar someday) at relatively short distances of 100y and in.

I was considering Marlin, Rossi and Henry.
Link Posted: 10/9/2016 11:26:33 AM EDT
[#6]
I'm going to go on a completely different tangent....



Browning BLR in .308






Link Posted: 10/9/2016 3:05:45 PM EDT
[#7]
At that range an iron sighted, lever action carbine in 30-30, 44mag or 357mag would each do just fine. A Rossi 357mag carbine shooting Buffalo Bore Heavy 158grn, 357mag loads will produce 2,153fps; near 150grn 30-30 performance.  For shots under 100yds, that's enough energy for a humane White tail deer hunt.
Link Posted: 10/9/2016 5:42:23 PM EDT
[#8]
I've taken a bunch of deer with 20" Rossi Carbine in .44 mag, 240 XTP at about 1900 fps. All my shots have been under 100 meters, all but two were broadside heart/lung shots that dropped them DRT. the two exceptions were a neck shot (shattered the spine and dropped the deer; took it about five minutes to die but it never moved from the spot). Other shot was straight on, hit left center chest, exited rear right hip.  Dropped the deer and it rolled downhill about fifty yards, I think it was dead before it stopped rolling. Made a nasty mess in the guts, had to rinse it out really good with a hose when I got home.

From a benchrest, a Rossi in .44 or .45 will easily shoot 3moa at 100 meters with any decent load.  I've never felt shy about taking a shot at 75-100 meters offhand. My 20" guns have fatory semi-buckhorns, 24" rifle in .45 has a Marbles tang.  Another option is the Buffalo Arms copy of the Lyman side-mounted peep sight, by Providence Tool Co. it's pricey but looks really nice on a rifle or carbine.



Link Posted: 10/10/2016 7:50:53 AM EDT
[#9]
357,44,45LC,30-30,35Rem,375Win,444,45-70,450Marlin.......you get the idea!
Link Posted: 10/11/2016 7:59:27 AM EDT
[#10]
Perfect ranges and situation for a .45LC Rossi 1892.  I recommend a .45LC / .454 Casull so you have options.
Link Posted: 10/20/2016 8:43:06 PM EDT
[#11]
Very nice BLR rifle. Beautiful.
Link Posted: 10/20/2016 9:07:34 PM EDT
[#12]
45-70!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/20/2016 10:19:16 PM EDT
[#13]
45/70, 35, even the 30-30 are over kill.

The 357 will do you ok, the 44 mag will get out past 200 yards, and will keep going, and going, and going.

I have 3 levers, a 45/70 Marlin for 2 legged varmints, and hogs. A 1949 Winchester 94 in 30WCF, because its cool as hell.
and a 1971 Winchester in 44 mag.  It rings the 200 yard gong, with the 30WCf and 45/70.

Get the Elmer Kieth 44 mag hollow point mould, and anything and everything in the woods will go down.
Link Posted: 10/25/2016 6:37:46 PM EDT
[#14]
Anything a 30-30 can take down, a proper load in .357 will do the same. Only difference is when you start to extend the distance and not long after the .357 drops off the 30-30 will do the same.
Link Posted: 10/26/2016 8:06:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/15/2016 10:49:19 PM EDT
[#16]
The .357 Leverevolution ammo (Hornady) will get right at the edge of .30-30 power.  Plenty for whitetail!

I would get a Marlin just because they are easy to put a scope or sight on.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:07:19 PM EDT
[#17]
.44 mag or .45LC.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:02:57 PM EDT
[#18]
If you desire cheap plinking and range use when not hunting and you don't reload the 357 (38) will beat all other choices. If you are not so much concerned about cost or do reload I would pick 44mag
Link Posted: 12/29/2016 12:38:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Marlin 45-70 or Marlin 444 and 44 magnum great choices. Wow very nice Browning rifle. Enjoy.
Link Posted: 1/2/2017 11:59:02 AM EDT
[#20]
I have a Marlin Cowboy with a 24-inch barrel in .357.  My son used it and the 140 grain Hornady Flex Tip bullet to take a nice deer.  The range was about the distance you are shooting.
Link Posted: 1/2/2017 8:54:07 PM EDT
[#21]
We don't use levers much anymore since Ruger released the 77/357 years back (its lighter than our 1894's). We load a HC 158gr SWC Keith out to 2150 and have taken loads of deer, sheep, oryx, as well as elk with no problems at all. Just mind your range and ability.
Link Posted: 1/9/2017 11:07:32 PM EDT
[#22]
95% of my rifle shots are under 30 yards in heavy timber.

I use a 30-06 or a .444 for deer and hogs. never had a problem with over kill one bit.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 4:38:01 PM EDT
[#23]
I won the bid on a new in box Marlin 1895GBL  I just went to my LGS and bought a box of cartridges $49.95 !    Im going to use it the remainder of the season for whitetails, sometimes in young planted pine cover / palmettos etc..  100 yds or less.  Does anyone have any experience  with Federal Fusion 300 gr.  How do they group in your rifle?
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 7:03:59 PM EDT
[#24]
I would use the 270, load up with some varmint rounds for those close in hunting spots.

Took a doe with my Henry 44, and a buck with my S&W 629 this season. The buck was at 50ish and the doe at about 40 yards, both died suddenly.
Link Posted: 2/3/2017 11:38:17 PM EDT
[#25]
Any of the so-called pistol caliber lever guns will do the job you're asking of it... provided you can hit the proper real estate.   I might balk at the 25-20, but the .32-20, the .357, .38-40, .44Mag, .44-40 and .45 Colt will all perform well on deer sized game at under 100 yards... from the .357 up, ranges up to maybe 150 yards.  Don't forget, they'll travel and provide decent accuracy to about twice that... The .38-40 & .44-40 have been killin' deer and predators for 140 years!  Deer haven't developed iron sides yet!  Just because some gun writer sez that they can't, doesn't make it so... dead deer have proven them wrong since well before they ever wrote that!  Remember, the .30-30 was advertised early on as grizzly medicine!
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