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Posted: 4/12/2016 12:12:36 PM EDT
I have been asked to sell this rifle for a family friend and am trying to determine the condition so I can come up with a reserve price. This rifle is all original except for the sight. The magazine tube is a little dinged up and loose but other than that the rifle is in good operational condition. I am guessing between 50-60%.
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Link Posted: 4/12/2016 7:28:02 PM EDT
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Got to love an old 92 :)

You might ask over at this forum. These guys are pretty good pricing old Winchesters

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=410211
Link Posted: 4/12/2016 10:18:09 PM EDT
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I'd put it in the "bitchin" category.



As in, "That rifle is "bitchin"!
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 9:48:34 AM EDT
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Got to love an old 92 :)

You might ask over at this forum. These guys are pretty good pricing old Winchesters

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=410211
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Yeah I wish I had the money to buy it from him, but  with having two Springfield Professionals coming in the next couple weeks I think the wife might kill me.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 6:50:44 PM EDT
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Yeah I wish I had the money to buy it from him, but  with having two Springfield Professionals coming in the next couple weeks I think the wife might kill me.
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Got to love an old 92 :)

You might ask over at this forum. These guys are pretty good pricing old Winchesters

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=410211



Yeah I wish I had the money to buy it from him, but  with having two Springfield Professionals coming in the next couple weeks I think the wife might kill me.


That's some cash flow right there. How long did you have to wait for the Springfield's?

I bought my first 1911 last Oct, I had been looking at the Mil-spec for months, the LGS had a Rock Island GI, I had the cash so I bought it. 4 weeks later I bought the mil-spec and 4 months after that I bought another mil-spec, same exact gun. IMO, the mil spec is the nicest 1911 I have ever shot, I can only imagine how nice the pro's are.
Link Posted: 4/15/2016 3:40:04 PM EDT
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That's some cash flow right there. How long did you have to wait for the Springfield's?

I bought my first 1911 last Oct, I had been looking at the Mil-spec for months, the LGS had a Rock Island GI, I had the cash so I bought it. 4 weeks later I bought the mil-spec and 4 months after that I bought another mil-spec, same exact gun. IMO, the mil spec is the nicest 1911 I have ever shot, I can only imagine how nice the pro's are.
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Got to love an old 92 :)

You might ask over at this forum. These guys are pretty good pricing old Winchesters

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=410211



Yeah I wish I had the money to buy it from him, but  with having two Springfield Professionals coming in the next couple weeks I think the wife might kill me.


That's some cash flow right there. How long did you have to wait for the Springfield's?

I bought my first 1911 last Oct, I had been looking at the Mil-spec for months, the LGS had a Rock Island GI, I had the cash so I bought it. 4 weeks later I bought the mil-spec and 4 months after that I bought another mil-spec, same exact gun. IMO, the mil spec is the nicest 1911 I have ever shot, I can only imagine how nice the pro's are.


24 months so far. I put $200 back each month for them so it was not a huge hit when they show up, also made it a lot easier to talk the wife into. I have been wanting to get a mil-spec for awhile as well, I have read great reviews on them and want to build a MEU(SOC) 1911 clone out of one.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:56:50 PM EDT
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That's weird, it has s saddle ring and a carbine forend, but a round rifle barrel and magazine hanger instead of a front barrel band.  Either a custom ordered gun or maybe rebuilt from two separate guns? Never seen a rifle style mag tube hanger on a carbine before.
Link Posted: 4/24/2016 7:04:17 PM EDT
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25-20 has fallen by the board in the last few years.  Nobody makes brass for it--the last seasonal run by Remington was probably 3-4 years ago.  Nobody makes flatpoint bullets in 25Cal either.



It's a dream with cast bullets though.  And you can make the brass from 32-20 which Starline produces.
 
Link Posted: 4/25/2016 6:49:54 PM EDT
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I think you need to use the Antique scale on this gun, don't you?  Because the amount of original finish left doesn't tell the whole story on this rifle/carbine.  I'd be thinking "Very Good" or "Good" (I'm not a Winchester expert, to the replaced parts component of the condition is a tough one for me here).  From the NRA Museum website:

NRA Museum Firearms Condition Guide

NRA ANTIQUE FIREARM CONDITIONS STANDARDS:
•FACTORY NEW: All original parts; 100% original finish; in perfect condition in every respect, inside and out.
•EXCELLENT: All original parts; over 80% original finish; sharp lettering, numerals and design on metal and wood; unmarred wood; fine bore.
•FINE: All original parts; over 30% original finish; sharp lettering, numerals and design on metal and wood; minor marks in wood; good bore.
•VERY GOOD: All original parts; none to 30% original finish; original metal surfaces smooth with all edges sharp; clear lettering, numerals and design on metal; wood slightly scratched or bruised; bore disregarded for collectors firearms.
•GOOD: Some minor replacement parts; metal smoothly rusted or lightly pitted in places, cleaned or re-blued; principal letters, numerals and design on metal legible; wood refinished, scratched bruised or minor cracks repaired; in good working order.
•FAIR: Some major parts replaced; minor replacement parts may be required; metal rusted, may be lightly pitted all over, vigorously cleaned or re-blued; rounded edges of metal and wood; principal lettering, numerals and design on metal partly obliterated; wood scratched, bruised, cracked or repaired where broken; in fair working order or can be easily repaired and placed in working order.
•POOR: Major and minor parts replaced; major replacement parts required and extensive restoration needed; metal deeply pitted; principal lettering, numerals and design obliterated, wood badly scratched, bruised, cracked or broken; mechanically inoperative; generally undesirable as a collector's firearm.

Rob
Link Posted: 4/26/2016 3:14:18 PM EDT
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That's weird, it has s saddle ring and a carbine forend, but a round rifle barrel and magazine hanger instead of a front barrel band.  Either a custom ordered gun or maybe rebuilt from two separate guns? Never seen a rifle style mag tube hanger on a carbine before.
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So would this be a good gun to get a letter on?


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I think you need to use the Antique scale on this gun, don't you?  Because the amount of original finish left doesn't tell the whole story on this rifle/carbine.  I'd be thinking "Very Good" or "Good" (I'm not a Winchester expert, to the replaced parts component of the condition is a tough one for me here).  From the NRA Museum website:

NRA Museum Firearms Condition Guide

NRA ANTIQUE FIREARM CONDITIONS STANDARDS:
•FACTORY NEW: All original parts; 100% original finish; in perfect condition in every respect, inside and out.
•EXCELLENT: All original parts; over 80% original finish; sharp lettering, numerals and design on metal and wood; unmarred wood; fine bore.
•FINE: All original parts; over 30% original finish; sharp lettering, numerals and design on metal and wood; minor marks in wood; good bore.
•VERY GOOD: All original parts; none to 30% original finish; original metal surfaces smooth with all edges sharp; clear lettering, numerals and design on metal; wood slightly scratched or bruised; bore disregarded for collectors firearms.
•GOOD: Some minor replacement parts; metal smoothly rusted or lightly pitted in places, cleaned or re-blued; principal letters, numerals and design on metal legible; wood refinished, scratched bruised or minor cracks repaired; in good working order.
•FAIR: Some major parts replaced; minor replacement parts may be required; metal rusted, may be lightly pitted all over, vigorously cleaned or re-blued; rounded edges of metal and wood; principal lettering, numerals and design on metal partly obliterated; wood scratched, bruised, cracked or repaired where broken; in fair working order or can be easily repaired and placed in working order.
•POOR: Major and minor parts replaced; major replacement parts required and extensive restoration needed; metal deeply pitted; principal lettering, numerals and design obliterated, wood badly scratched, bruised, cracked or broken; mechanically inoperative; generally undesirable as a collector's firearm.

Rob
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I will look into this tonight. That would make sense to use the antique scale though.
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