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I've been shooting a 30-30 for 39 years now. I am fully aware of capabilities. I also understand that most shooters never practice past 100 yards. if you spend some range time at those distances. go for it.
one thing I have noticed over the years is a lot of people don't understand how far 200+ yards really is and a 30-30 starts to wain and drop pretty well at those distances.
I am not fan of the LE loads.
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I dunno about 200 yards with a 30-30.
What don't you know about it? Whether it would work at that range? It's still packing considerably more energy at that range than most magnum handguns loads do at the muzzle and also more than or equal to AR15's flavor of the month cartridges; the 6.8 and .300 BLK.
That's a pretty ho hum load for the .30-30 as well. Compare that Federal load with a Hornady LE with a pointed 160 gr. @ 2400 fps or a Winchester Power Point 150 gr. @ almost 2500 fps.
I've been shooting a 30-30 for 39 years now. I am fully aware of capabilities. I also understand that most shooters never practice past 100 yards. if you spend some range time at those distances. go for it.
one thing I have noticed over the years is a lot of people don't understand how far 200+ yards really is and a 30-30 starts to wain and drop pretty well at those distances.
I am not fan of the LE loads.
Okay, so it seems like you're saying that It's a software (training/practice) problem rather than a hardware (gun/ammunition) problem. That very well may be the case with some people. Hunters that stalk dense woods may never see a 100 yard shot, much less a 200 yard one.
I just wanted to clarify for those reading this and considering a .30-30 Winchester for a hunting rifle or doubting the capabilities of a rifle they already own. Most of the Marlins I've owned or handled will print around 1.5" @ 100 yards. Some will print under 1" with the right ammunition. That is firing a three shot group. They seem to heat up quickly and vertical stringing takes over much after that. I believe the barrel band is credited with being the culprit. Regardless, three rounds is more than adequate for most any hunting situation we may ever encounter.
The very common and inexpensive Federal 150 gr. flat points will have a 4.2" drop at 200 yards if zeroed at 150 yards. At 100 yards, the impact will only be 1.5" high. The Hornady Leverevolution ammo is even more impressive. I'm not seeing the drop off that you mention in your post. It's not a 7mm mag, but 200 yards with common ammo and 250 with the Hornady LE stuff is perfectly doable.