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Posted: 8/14/2012 7:57:34 PM
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Hey all,
I have tons of questions (please forgive my grammer) I'm not a newbie to guns but its been years since I've bought one. My son Cole and I have decided that the Rossi R92, model number 51003 will be our first purchase, 24" barrel in .357 cal. I've called a few dealers in the So Cal area and not one has gotten back to me, yet. Are these guns that hard to get from Rossi?

2nd question..I keep getting kicked to the Rossi web page when I search Puma. Are these guns made by the same manufature? If so, is the quality the same?

I've always thought that some gun were an investment, just like all investments, some are good and some are bad. I bought a brand new Ruger new model blackhawk (Stainless Steel 357) in the late 80's for 207.00. I'm thinking that was a good investment. I'm wondering if the Rossi 92 will be?

I've read about Steve's Gunz Action Job Kit , I'm all for it... Should that be done brand new or after a few rounds have been fired?

Mark

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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:25:01 PM
92's are mechanically complex.....nice guns but lots of parts.
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:31:47 PM
I have a Rossi Puma 92 in .454 (although I shoot almost .45 colt exclusively) and mine was very stiff to operate when new. I sent it off to M&M gunsmithing and it works very nice now. Good luck with whatever decision you make.
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Posted: 8/14/2012 8:48:38 PM
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I have a Rossi '92 20" Carbine in .44 Magnum.

I did not send it to anyone and it is slick enough to operate with my pinky finger after 250 rounds.

Buy one and spend your money on ammo or reloading components.

ETA: My trigger is very nice, crisp and not at all heavy.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:51:31 AM
I got a Rossi 92 in .357
With mine there was no reason to do the Steve's Gunz action work.
Worked smooth and easy out of the box.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 10:33:59 AM
Rossi has been making model 92 clones for a long time. They have had several importers, sometimes more than one importer at a time.

Interarms was the first importer than I'm aware of.

Navy Arms and EMF Hartford were both previous importers of Rossi 92's. These are some of the nicest ones.

Legacy Sports, or LSI, imported the Rossi 92 until a few years ago, and called it the Puma. When they dropped the Rossi 92, they started importing a higher grade and more expensive 92 from Chiappa in Italy. This is where it gets confusing, they also call this one the Puma.

Braztech (Taurus) is the current importer of the Rossi 92.

I have owned Rossi's imported by Interarms, EMF, LSI, and Braztech. Currently own stainless 16 inch trappers from LSI and Braztech.

The interarms and EMF guns had nice slick actions out of the box. The EMF was the nicest Rossi 92 I've ever seen. The shop I bought it from said it was a salesman's sample.

The LSI 44 came to be by way of Steve Young, he had already worked it over before I got it. The Braztech 357 was VERY rough out of the box, I sent it down to Steve and now it's just as slick as the 44.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 11:04:15 AM
I have had several Rossi 92s and never needed to do action work on them. You can pull out the action lock bars and polish them if you want, and change the hammer spring, but it really doesn't need more than that.

If you aren't competing with it, this work is completely unnecessary.

The Rossi really isn't that complex to someone who knows what end of a screwdriver to use.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 1:51:45 PM
I have two Rossi '92s in 357mag, a 20" rd bbl carbine and a 24" oct bbl rifle. Both are excellent shooters and you'll be pleased with either. As to working on them. 1st, DO NOT TOUCH THE ACTION LOCK BARS! Messing with them can open up the headspacing on the bolt. Second, Steve's DVD and kit (along with his bolt top safety plug) is a great investment for your new Rossi. I've given 3 Rossis (1 carbine and 2 rifles) action/trigger jobs using Steve's parts and DVD and they all work really nice after the work. Stock, the Rossi is over sprung. The ejector spring is ridiculously heavy and will throw empty brass into the next county.

The extractor's spring weight is also on the heavy side and together, they both make for a stiff closing action as you fight against the springs the last ¼" or so. Replacing the ejector spring with Steve's and lightening up the others per his instructions is a smart move for long term reliability and operation as the lighter spring weight will avoid the excessive wear caused from the high spring weights.

Snipping the hammer spring and mag spring per his direction, along with lightening the loading gate's spring, coupled with a bit of judicious part polishing will give you a smooth operating, enjoyable action and better, crisper trigger to boot. Finally, replacement of the plastic mag follower with Steve's steel one will avoid any magazine jamming issues down the road. All in all, Steve's $58.40 kit is worth every penny as is his $20 bolt safety plug.

I did the action/trigger job on my first Rossi, my 24" case colored rifle, after about 200 rds. Mind you, the stock Rossi worked fine out of the box, feeding both 38spl and 357mag without any issues. It was just stiff with a normal, heavy trigger and about normal for today's rifles. However, after the work, the difference was dramatic. The action was smooth and the trigger was lighter and crisper. So much so that when I got my 20" carbine, I did the work before I fired a shot through it. Both have over 3,500 rds each and are both as reliable and smooth as the day they were finished.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 5:56:23 PM
Thank you all for the great info...I finally got some news about this gun from the local Bass Pro Shops buyer. She said there are none avalible and I'd have to wait until Rossi decides they want to build em. She gave me no time line at all but she did give me a price of 549.00.

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Posted: 8/15/2012 6:18:50 PM
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Why not settle for a ROSSI they can be fine guns I love mine after a little work.
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Posted: 8/15/2012 8:27:41 PM
If you're going to get the action job, just buy it direct from him. Also he has the case color octagon version I haven't seen elsewhere (was going to get that before I found my Browning). Call and see if they are in stock:

http://store.stevesgunz.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=10_12_4
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Posted: 8/15/2012 9:39:27 PM
Originally Posted By golfish:
Thank you all for the great info...I finally got some news about this gun from the local Bass Pro Shops buyer. She said there are none avalible and I'd have to wait until Rossi decides they want to build em. She gave me no time line at all but she did give me a price of 549.00.




Buds gun shop usually has a few of these available at better prices than BAss Pro –– cruise over to their website and see what they have ––- or direct from Steves Guns would also be good
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Posted: 10/12/2012 6:15:05 PM
Originally Posted By streetstar:
Originally Posted By golfish:
Thank you all for the great info...I finally got some news about this gun from the local Bass Pro Shops buyer. She said there are none avalible and I'd have to wait until Rossi decides they want to build em. She gave me no time line at all but she did give me a price of 549.00.




Buds gun shop usually has a few of these available at better prices than BAss Pro –– cruise over to their website and see what they have ––- or direct from Steves Guns would also be good


Thank you, I ordered the 24" SS version today from Buds...it took me a while to get things together and find it.
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Posted: 10/16/2012 7:05:05 PM
that's a good deal..I paid 501.00 for the SS version with free shipping to my local FFL (pawn shop) the bummer is I have to pay tax and a 75.00 transerfer fee..that's the norm for living in Calif.

Its a xmas gift for my 11 years old son (that's what I told the wife) We're both reved up, its been years since I've bought a gun. I'm looking at a compact 45acp for my next buy..

Hey guys, what's a good ammo to start breaking this gun in with? I used to reload shotgun when I was a kid, thought maybe I would start reloading .357 ...

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Posted: 10/18/2012 8:48:57 PM
Nice find I hope it is a nice one like mine is.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 12:45:01 AM
I got one this summer and it's my new favorite gun. I didn't have to do anything to it except oil it and shoot it. It's not all that stiff, totally reliable with .38's and .357's and I can't miss with it inside of 100 yards. I even got used to the crappy buckhorn sight. The only thing I'm considering is a lighter ejector spring because it does eject brass quite far and can nick the case mouth as it ejects.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 6:32:54 PM
went down to the pawn shop (FFL) that I had the gun sent to today.. I have never held one of these 92's before, what a sweet gun, so light..

I'll have to wait another 10 days before I can bring it home.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 9:22:12 PM
ya the rossi are pretty nice guns was going to leave pm abouts buds but i see im to late
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Posted: 11/2/2012 3:05:00 AM
My 454 Casull chambered M92 came very smooth out of the box. I really can't find any area to polish out in the action. The buttstock is butt ugly though.
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Posted: 11/3/2012 8:25:01 PM
The 92s slick up nicely, run them like you mean it. 24" is a lot of gun for a 357.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 1:26:31 AM
Hopefully next weekend I will get my new 16" .357 mag out and run some ammo through it. Today I was at the same LGS and saw a 20" CCH .45 Colt. Now I want that too. This is a sickness worse than the BRD.
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Posted: 11/6/2012 10:20:09 AM
Fired the gun this weekend, very accurate at 75 yards using .38sp rounds and some .357 158 grain target loads but when I shot 125 grain Remington .357 the gun shot 12" high and there's no more adjustment on the sights.

BTW, the gun will NOT cycle .357 rounds..the .38sp cycled fine..