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Posted: 7/24/2012 7:57:47 PM

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Originally I posted about the Henry Big Boy and per a few replies checked out the Rossi.

Based on some research the Rossi looked very impressive. It too has the octagon barrel.
What the Rossi has that the Henry did not was the different barrel lengths.
For me the longer barrel length really caught my eye.
The kicker was the price was almost $300 less than the Henry.

So, I check the web site for local Rossi dealers and it returns none found but "Search for local Taurus dealer." was the return message.

As soon as I saw the reference to Taurus I was like WTF.

My personal experience with Taurus (not any second hand info) has not been good and swore off owning any Taurus related items.

Is Taurus now manufacturing these items or did they simply buy the company for extra revenue and not have any direct involvement?
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Posted: 7/24/2012 8:38:04 PM
If there are any dealers near you, go look at one (some) and make up your own mind.

All Rossis didn't just turn into turds because Taurus bought them out.

Evidently the Tauruses are easy to tell, they have the silly little safety in the base of the hammer.
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Posted: 7/24/2012 9:21:20 PM
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If there are any dealers near you, go look at one (some) and make up your own mind.

All Rossis didn't just turn into turds because Taurus bought them out.

Evidently the Tauruses are easy to tell, they have the silly little safety in the base of the hammer.


Will keep that in mind. Is it obvious? Does anyone have a picture of the "new" safety so I know?

If I could find a pre-Taurus Rossi with a 20 or 24 inch Octagon barrel (oh and with the hardened steel) for a good price I will jump on it.
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Rossi's can be gems with a little wortk to them being done for example my thread I have used Steve's dvd to slick up the action replaced the mag follower and refinished the wood and she is a gem as any can be with a little care and work.
Here is my original refinish thread for my Rossi 20 " inch .357 mag These guns are gems in the ruff in most cases, but if you can take time to finish them they become jewels. I fo you are handy at being a gunsmith then you can judge by examining the guns before buying. Then after you can tune them more.
my original refinish thread
and some after pics the oil soaks in and get darker as these will show in contrast to the finished pics in the thread.
after initial refinish

after several months of oil darkening the finish
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Posted: 7/25/2012 7:58:12 AM
Hi, I have 6 of the old style rossi (Hartfords) and 2 of the the new style with the silly safety, all 24" octagonal barrels and recent 2 Taurus versions in carbine, 20" and16" round barrels. I really like the old style without the safety but the safety can be removed and replaced with a plug or rear sight so it isn't a big deal. As was said before Rossi's are like diamonds in the rough, a little work and patients and they are great. The Taurus version, at least the ones I have have a bit better wood to metal fit but it still requires sanding and refinishing, sights are usable but I like to change them to peeps and white beads
(personal preference). sight dovetails are generally bigger than the normal sights you can buy but I have found that a little JB Weld will lock a new sight in but can be removed easily if you want to go back to the old sights.
New taurus models are drilled and tapped for barrel mounted scope base, old ones aren't. Everyone of them that I have shoot well, and unlike my marlins the bore isn't oversized.. So in a nutshell I think they are well worth the money and way fun to play with.
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Posted: 7/25/2012 9:16:33 AM
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Rossi's can be gems with a little wortk to them being done for example my thread I have used Steve's dvd to slick up the action replaced the mag follower and refinished the wood and she is a gem as any can be with a little care and work.
Here is my original refinish thread for my Rossi 20 " inch .357 mag These guns are gems in the ruff in most cases, but if you can take time to finish them they become jewels. I fo you are handy at being a gunsmith then you can judge by examining the guns before buying. Then after you can tune them more.
my original refinish thread
and some after pics the oil soaks in and get darker as these will show in contrast to the finished pics in the thread.
after initial refinish
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee97/akuser47/100_0052-1.jpg
after several months of oil darkening the finish
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee97/akuser47/rugervaquerobeforeandafterandrossi92005.jpg


That is very impressive and a HUGE improvement.
What is "Steve's DVD" used to slick up the action and just how rough is the action if you didn't do it?
Is there any other work required for this Rossi?
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Posted: 7/25/2012 10:08:05 AM
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Posted: 7/25/2012 10:27:33 AM
The 16 inch is too small for me but not sure if the 20 or 24 would be better.
There doesn't appear to be any local Rossi dealers which means I may have to buy it onLine without seeing which feels better.
I am leaning toward the 24 inch but wonder if that makes for a overall long firearm and the 20 inch barrel would be optimum.
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Posted: 7/25/2012 12:37:59 PM
Go through davidsons that way if you get a lemon they will take care of it for you. They are a stand up company for sure. If you know any other with solid customer support than use them be careful with Gun Broker most are all sales final which means you are stuck.
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Posted: 7/25/2012 1:26:38 PM
Originally Posted By akuser-47:
Go through davidsons that way if you get a lemon they will take care of it for you. They are a stand up company for sure. If you know any other with solid customer support than use them be careful with Gun Broker most are all sales final which means you are stuck.


I am assuming that is the same as GalleryOfGuns.com site?
If so, they are about $100-$200 more then some other places.
Actually more than GB.
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Posted: 7/25/2012 1:31:56 PM
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Originally Posted By JThompson:
The 16 inch is too small for me but not sure if the 20 or 24 would be better.
There doesn't appear to be any local Rossi dealers which means I may have to buy it onLine without seeing which feels better.
I am leaning toward the 24 inch but wonder if that makes for a overall long firearm and the 20 inch barrel would be optimum.


Same stocks and stock length. I am a big dude, but this gun is not too small. It is a handy length. The only limitation is mag capacity for Cowboy Action Shooting. For that:

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Posted: 7/25/2012 1:55:01 PM
Originally Posted By JThompson:
The 16 inch is too small for me but not sure if the 20 or 24 would be better.
There doesn't appear to be any local Rossi dealers which means I may have to buy it onLine without seeing which feels better.
I am leaning toward the 24 inch but wonder if that makes for a overall long firearm and the 20 inch barrel would be optimum.



I have an older 24" octogon barrel,and a newer 16".I bought the 24 awhile back and love it,but it is a little long.I picked up a 16",but was disappointed in the length of the stock-a little too short for me (6'2",195lbs).It's over an inch shorter than my 24.I started a thread a few months back on it,but didn't learn much.Friend of mine just got a 20",and that's the one I should have gone with.His 20 has the same length stock as my 16 though.I might get a lace on extender to give me a little extra.

Both my weapons run flawless-the only thing I did was polish everything up and replace the followers with metal ones from Steves.The more you work it,the smoother they get.

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Posted: 7/25/2012 2:48:59 PM
Originally Posted By JThompson:
Originally Posted By akuser-47:
Go through davidsons that way if you get a lemon they will take care of it for you. They are a stand up company for sure. If you know any other with solid customer support than use them be careful with Gun Broker most are all sales final which means you are stuck.


I am assuming that is the same as GalleryOfGuns.com site?
If so, they are about $100-$200 more then some other places.
Actually more than GB.


I am only suggesting because I have seen others in rossirifleman.com that had an issue and they took care of it Gb is a gamble and in most cases you can get stuck yes they are not the cheapest I agree Just be carful about the sellers you deal with on GB make sure they will return the item if there is an issue just giving a heads up not promoting anyone over any other.gallery of guns is davidsons correct. Good luck with your purchase and report in with pics and reviews of what you end up getting.
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Posted: 7/25/2012 5:19:46 PM

here is mine, I like it.
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Love my Rossi... 20" case hardened (at least fake case hardened), octagon barrel, .45 LC. Built like a tank and plenty accurate.

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Here is mine, a 20" Carbine in .44 Magnum, and I couldn't be happier with it.

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At the gun show last weekend I handled the 16", 20", and 24" inch Rossi M92. The stock on the 16" & 20" was waaaaay to short. The stock on the 24" was just right. Do you know if the longer stock is available on the short barreled rifles?

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Posted: 7/26/2012 1:14:39 AM
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Originally Posted By JThompson:
Originally Posted By akuser-47:
Rossi's can be gems with a little wortk to them being done for example my thread I have used Steve's dvd to slick up the action replaced the mag follower and refinished the wood and she is a gem as any can be with a little care and work.
Here is my original refinish thread for my Rossi 20 " inch .357 mag These guns are gems in the ruff in most cases, but if you can take time to finish them they become jewels. I fo you are handy at being a gunsmith then you can judge by examining the guns before buying. Then after you can tune them more.
my original refinish thread
and some after pics the oil soaks in and get darker as these will show in contrast to the finished pics in the thread.
after initial refinish
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee97/akuser47/100_0052-1.jpg
after several months of oil darkening the finish
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee97/akuser47/rugervaquerobeforeandafterandrossi92005.jpg


That is very impressive and a HUGE improvement.
What is "Steve's DVD" used to slick up the action and just how rough is the action if you didn't do it?
Is there any other work required for this Rossi?



Sorry I missed this so I will finally answer you in most cases the action is ruff there is alot of tooling marks and burrs inside the action and the bolt and cartridge giudes they are made ruff some worse than others. This is how they are affordable. The dvd shows you step by step how to polish it up to smooth out the action and lower the trigger pull a little. I refinished the wood because I found rust around the forearm were the wood was in contact with the metal so I tore her down and refinished it to seal it up so it will not rust the mag tube or barrel anymore. Thi is why it is generally better to be able to handle the gun and if they allow you to cycle dummy rounds/snap caps to see if it functions before you buy most will not do this unless you know them personally but it is worth trying to ask. Check your wood to see if the fit and finish is good enough for you. Good luck on your choice and post back your results of your choice made.
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That is very impressive and a HUGE improvement.
What is "Steve's DVD" used to slick up the action and just how rough is the action if you didn't do it?
Is there any other work required for this Rossi?


Steve is an expert on gunsmithing the Rossi 92 rifles. His DVD covers some basic home gunsmithing tips you can use to make your rifle run better.

There are a few well-known issues with the Rossi 92s:

a) The hammer spring is too strong. Makes it hard to cycle the action and can damage the firing pin retaining pin.

b) The ejector spring is too strong. Makes the action difficult to cycle and throws your brass a long way.

c) The plastic magazine follower jams.

d) The internal parts are rough, and really benefot from being properly lubed with white lithium grease.



My own Rossi had the old metal follower, so I didn't need to fuss with that. But it's easy to replace if you have a newer model.

The old lubricant had dried out and had become a nasty, sticky mess, so I had to disassemble the weapon to clean it, and apply the proper lubricant.

Now, the first thing you'll learn when you disassemble your rifle is that it's a motherfucker to get back together. It comes apart easily enough, and you may lose the hammer spring if you're not careful, but getting it back together requires detailed instructions, a dummy round, a strong pin, and the patience of a saint. Also, the process for disassemby is different than the process for reassembly (at least the way I do it).

Once the gun is disassembled, you can easily switch out the ejector spring, though the hammer spring may be a bit trickier. In my case, sisnce I didn't have the springs handy, I just scrubbed the reciever out and then lubed the whole works with white lithium grease as reccomended. After finally figuring out how to get the damned thing back together, I tried out the action and found that it had been considerable smoothed out just by having it properly lubricated. I also work the action a few dozen times every once in awhile to break it in a bit.

I can honestly say that the action feels pretty good. Not great yet (it doesn't have that super-slick feel that a well-used gun has), but it's certainly a vast improvement from how I got it. I don't really need to change out the springs to improve the action, but I'm going to do so anyway. The hammer spring can cause damage, and the ejector throws brass all over the place so it's worthwhile to do it, even if the takedown and reassembly is a bitch.

Overall, the Rossi is a great gun, if you're willing to do a bit of gunsmithing. But you've got to have some dedication and gumption to learn the reassembly process. You'll also need a few special tools in your kit. The good news is that you shouldn't have to disassmble it often.

I don't have Steve's CD. It might have made the process a little easier. But I couldn't afford to buy it so I just tried to figure it out myself. I did happen to find some useful stuff just by googling it. I didn't find anything that captured the process from beginning to end... I found some stuff that claimed to, but it left out some vital steps. But I wrote down my observations as I went so I can do it again if I need to.

When I get the replacement springs (at some point when I've got some spare cash), I'll do a youtube video so that people will be able to get the info for free. It really bugs me that you've got to buy essential info like that, so I'm happy to share what I've learned about the process.

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Posted: 7/26/2012 10:37:42 AM
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At the gun show last weekend I handled the 16", 20", and 24" inch Rossi M92. The stock on the 16" & 20" was waaaaay to short. The stock on the 24" was just right. Do you know if the longer stock is available on the short barreled rifles?

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I tried swapping the stock from my 24 to my 16 and it wouldn't work-tang was different (different enough to require major fitting,which I didn't want to do).

I tried calling Rossi,but wasn't able to talk with anyone that could help me.Thought maybe I could order a stock for the 24 and make it work.I'll try again some day when I have some patience.

I had a thread going on it a few months back.

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I have 2 Rossis both 16", one is a LSI in .45LC and the other is an Interarms in .357. Both of them are great shooters although the Interarms is noticeably slicker and better fit. Given the chance I'd replace the LSI with a used Interarms in a heartbeat just because the quality was higher IMHO but the newer guns are still a great deal for the money. I'm 6' 185# and have no problems with the LOP but that's me.
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Posted: 7/26/2012 3:30:47 PM
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At the gun show last weekend I handled the 16", 20", and 24" inch Rossi M92. The stock on the 16" & 20" was waaaaay to short. The stock on the 24" was just right. Do you know if the longer stock is available on the short barreled rifles?

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I called Rossi and was told the stock length is the same for 16, 20 & 24.
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Posted: 7/26/2012 11:25:21 PM
Originally Posted By JThompson:
Originally Posted By Accountant30339:
At the gun show last weekend I handled the 16", 20", and 24" inch Rossi M92. The stock on the 16" & 20" was waaaaay to short. The stock on the 24" was just right. Do you know if the longer stock is available on the short barreled rifles?

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I called Rossi and was told the stock length is the same for 16, 20 & 24.


The 24" stock looks different look at the rear of it(more creseent shaped butt) and it looks like the angle is different than 20" and 16" If they were the same they would be interchangeable which i bet they are not. I am only speculating no facts for this.
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Posted: 7/27/2012 8:33:44 AM

Originally Posted By JThompson:
Originally Posted By Accountant30339:
At the gun show last weekend I handled the 16", 20", and 24" inch Rossi M92. The stock on the 16" & 20" was waaaaay to short. The stock on the 24" was just right. Do you know if the longer stock is available on the short barreled rifles?

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I called Rossi and was told the stock length is the same for 16, 20 & 24.

That is not correct.


There are 16 and 20 inch carbines, and 20 and 24 inch rifles. Carbines and rifle have different stocks, with the carbine stock having less curve to the butt and being shorter.
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Posted: 7/27/2012 10:16:48 AM
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Originally Posted By JThompson:
Originally Posted By Accountant30339:
At the gun show last weekend I handled the 16", 20", and 24" inch Rossi M92. The stock on the 16" & 20" was waaaaay to short. The stock on the 24" was just right. Do you know if the longer stock is available on the short barreled rifles?

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I called Rossi and was told the stock length is the same for 16, 20 & 24.


The 24" stock looks different look at the rear of it(more creseent shaped butt) and it looks like the angle is different than 20" and 16" If they were the same they would be interchangeable which i bet they are not. I am only speculating no facts for this.



No speculation-they are different.Mine do not interchange-the stock from the 24 will not fit the 16.The tang is different so the stock would have to be modified to get it to fit.The holes don't line up either.

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No speculation-they are different.Mine do not interchange-the stock from the 24 will not fit the 16.The tang is different so the stock would have to be modified to get it to fit.The holes don't line up either.



Are you, perhaps, comparing a rifle stock to a carbine stock?
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