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Posted: 5/20/2015 2:00:15 PM EDT
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You should seriously search this very site about Cannon gun safes before buying.
You can do a hell of a lot better than this. Edit to include...The Tractor shop safe is the better of the two. It is at least UL rated and so therefore it has lock protection and a relocker. The Safari is a joke as far as security protection. |
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Posted: 5/20/2015 4:03:01 PM EDT
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If you buy it, do so knowing they will probably not honor their warranty. If you get an electronic lock model, be prepared to pay for it to be drilled + new lock.
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Posted: 5/20/2015 4:11:23 PM EDT
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If you buy it, do so knowing they will probably not honor their warranty. If you get an electronic lock model, be prepared to pay for it to be drilled + new lock. I hear the talk abt the electronic lock horror stories but I've had mine for 9 years with no issues.. Cannon doesn't honor their warrenties? |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 4:20:10 PM EDT
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I hear the talk abt the electronic lock horror stories but I've had mine for 9 years with no issues.. Cannon doesn't honor their warrenties? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you buy it, do so knowing they will probably not honor their warranty. If you get an electronic lock model, be prepared to pay for it to be drilled + new lock. I hear the talk abt the electronic lock horror stories but I've had mine for 9 years with no issues.. Cannon doesn't honor their warrenties? I think they only warranty the electronics for a year, which is pretty crappy for a company that advertises a "Lifetime Warranty." The ones I examined at Tractor Supply were junk. Extremely thin steel; most of the weight is drywall. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:52:58 PM EDT
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Just my .02, if you have enough firearms that you need that capacity you should buy a better RSC.
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Posted: 5/24/2015 9:57:47 PM EDT
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Roget that. Comments are appreciated. Gonna hold off for now. I had orig wanted a fat boy or fat boy Jr but saw these for a little less...
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Posted: 5/25/2015 2:57:10 PM EDT
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I think they only warranty the electronics for a year, which is pretty crappy for a company that advertises a "Lifetime Warranty." The ones I examined at Tractor Supply were junk. Extremely thin steel; most of the weight is drywall. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you buy it, do so knowing they will probably not honor their warranty. If you get an electronic lock model, be prepared to pay for it to be drilled + new lock. I hear the talk abt the electronic lock horror stories but I've had mine for 9 years with no issues.. Cannon doesn't honor their warrenties? I think they only warranty the electronics for a year, which is pretty crappy for a company that advertises a "Lifetime Warranty." The ones I examined at Tractor Supply were junk. Extremely thin steel; most of the weight is drywall. Everyone complains about the cannon safes and their electronic locks, yet liberty and other safe companies use the same s&g lock  . ETA: I was unaware cannon switched to a cheaper lock.
One of the reasons cannons seem to break more often is because there are alot more cannon safes out there but percentage wise they go down at the same rate. |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 5:23:16 PM EDT
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Everyone complains about the cannon safes and their electronic locks, yet liberty and other safe companies use the same s&g lock .
One of the reasons cannons seem to break more often is because there are alot more cannon safes out there but percentage wise they go down at the same rate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you buy it, do so knowing they will probably not honor their warranty. If you get an electronic lock model, be prepared to pay for it to be drilled + new lock. I hear the talk abt the electronic lock horror stories but I've had mine for 9 years with no issues.. Cannon doesn't honor their warrenties? I think they only warranty the electronics for a year, which is pretty crappy for a company that advertises a "Lifetime Warranty." The ones I examined at Tractor Supply were junk. Extremely thin steel; most of the weight is drywall. Everyone complains about the cannon safes and their electronic locks, yet liberty and other safe companies use the same s&g lock .
One of the reasons cannons seem to break more often is because there are alot more cannon safes out there but percentage wise they go down at the same rate. Canon has not used a S&G e-lock for a very long time. You are dead wrong on both your statements. |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 5:23:50 PM EDT
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Unless you want a mechanical lock you can get the cannon and just switch the electronic lock to whatever brand you want, amsec, lagard, s&g, etc. You can even get a mechanical lock but you would have to pay a locksmith to install it which might not be cost effective.
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Posted: 5/25/2015 10:24:08 PM EDT
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Roget that. Comments are appreciated. Gonna hold off for now. I had orig wanted a fat boy or fat boy Jr but saw these for a little less... This is one of those times where you really want to up your budget and get a high quality safe thats rated. If you have 50 guns to store, you should be looking at the big thread on safes on this site and reading up on the different ratings and level of protection available. Many of the safes sold at big box stores are complete junk and are defeated in a couple minutes with a screwdriver and a crowbar. Do a little research, ask yourself what your collection is worth and then make an educated decision. Pretty paint jobs and nice carpeted shelves aren't going to slow down a couple of guys with prybars, and that is the goal of any gun safe. |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 10:34:55 PM EDT
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This is one of those times where you really want to up your budget and get a high quality safe thats rated. If you have 50 guns to store, you should be looking at the big thread on safes on this site and reading up on the different ratings and level of protection available. Many of the safes sold at big box stores are complete junk and are defeated in a couple minutes with a screwdriver and a crowbar. Do a little research, ask yourself what your collection is worth and then make an educated decision. Pretty paint jobs and nice carpeted shelves aren't going to slow down a couple of guys with prybars, and that is the goal of any gun safe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Roget that. Comments are appreciated. Gonna hold off for now. I had orig wanted a fat boy or fat boy Jr but saw these for a little less... This is one of those times where you really want to up your budget and get a high quality safe thats rated. If you have 50 guns to store, you should be looking at the big thread on safes on this site and reading up on the different ratings and level of protection available. Many of the safes sold at big box stores are complete junk and are defeated in a couple minutes with a screwdriver and a crowbar. Do a little research, ask yourself what your collection is worth and then make an educated decision. Pretty paint jobs and nice carpeted shelves aren't going to slow down a couple of guys with prybars, and that is the goal of any gun safe. This video is worth watching: 
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Posted: 5/26/2015 12:11:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/26/2015 12:26:21 AM EDT
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Nchapa please do more research before posting.
If you can verify where Cannon has suddenly switched back to S&G e-locks or for that matter a high quality lock provider please post the info. Go to your local box store and look at those locks on those safes. Cannon gun safes,which are no longer made here and have not been for several years,have basically become a supplier to low cost box stores. |
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Posted: 5/26/2015 7:39:58 AM EDT
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Nchapa please do more research before posting. If you can verify where Cannon has suddenly switched back to S&G e-locks or for that matter a high quality lock provider please post the info. Go to your local box store and look at those locks on those safes. Cannon gun safes,which are no longer made here and have not been for several years,have basically become a supplier to low cost box stores. My bad I misread your comment. I was unaware they switched to a cheaper lock. I bought one for my dad and one for my brother years ago with the s&g locks. Either way, my statement on changing locks stands, those locks are easy to change. I changed my dads safe s&g digital lock to a lagard digital lock a few months ago and it was a direct replacement. His s&g keypad was messing up and local locksmith only had the lagard in stock. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 9:53:03 AM EDT
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Fuck cannon safes...just Google it, they are terrible
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Posted: 5/31/2015 10:53:27 AM EDT
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Either way, my statement on changing locks stands, those locks are easy to change. I changed my dads safe s&g digital lock to a lagard digital lock a few months ago and it was a direct replacement. His s&g keypad was messing up and local locksmith only had the lagard in stock. They are not easy to change when the safe is not set up for it. All UL rated locks share a common footprint. Many of the non-rated locks do not. If the safe has a non UL rated lock in it from the factory, it may not be as simple as you believe to swap them out. And even thought the safe could be modified, it's likely not worth the expense or effort. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 7:07:54 AM EDT
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I was looking at these at my local TSC last weekend. I see they're made in Mexico now. Same factory that makes the lower end Champion safes?
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Posted: 6/1/2015 9:42:00 AM EDT
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Same factory that makes the lower end Champion safes? The Mexican prison? 
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Posted: 6/1/2015 7:21:52 PM EDT
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http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE97I01A20130819
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Posted: 6/1/2015 11:37:14 PM EDT
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http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE97I01A20130819 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Now that's funny. |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 12:06:26 PM EDT
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They are not easy to change when the safe is not set up for it. All UL rated locks share a common footprint. Many of the non-rated locks do not. If the safe has a non UL rated lock in it from the factory, it may not be as simple as you believe to swap them out. And even thought the safe could be modified, it's likely not worth the expense or effort. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Either way, my statement on changing locks stands, those locks are easy to change. I changed my dads safe s&g digital lock to a lagard digital lock a few months ago and it was a direct replacement. His s&g keypad was messing up and local locksmith only had the lagard in stock. They are not easy to change when the safe is not set up for it. All UL rated locks share a common footprint. Many of the non-rated locks do not. If the safe has a non UL rated lock in it from the factory, it may not be as simple as you believe to swap them out. And even thought the safe could be modified, it's likely not worth the expense or effort. They are a direct replacement, and they are UL rated, but hey lets bash cannon they suck stay away from them. LoL. |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 2:00:36 PM EDT
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They are a direct replacement, and they are UL rated Cannon uses both UL rated, and non-rated locks. They are not all UL rated, and they are not all direct replacement. but hey lets bash cannon they suck stay away from them. LoL. I'm not bashing anybody. Merely dishing out the facts. |
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