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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:31:58 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't see how a kid pressing buttons would change the combo. Try removing the front and put in a new battery, and try again.
If you just want your stuff out, you can cut the top open with a Sawz All. If you want to use the safe again, then you need to know where to drill it. The factory would give drill points to a registered lock smith. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:37:53 PM EDT
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I don't see how a kid pressing buttons would change the combo. Try removing the front and put in a new battery, and try again. If you just want your stuff out, you can cut the top open with a Sawz All. If you want to use the safe again, then you need to know where to drill it. The factory would give drill points to a registered lock smith. Them pressing the buttons while it was still open. My wife would close it but it would not lock. When not locked the code can be reset according to the owners manual. Either way I need to open it. The lock Smith said it will be at least $850 to drill and replace the lock. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:41:15 PM EDT
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If it's a GSP simple solenoid lock, then it can be opened by a pro with a coat hanger. My record is about 5 seconds. Combination is easy to reset, assuming everything else is working properly. If the pro doesn't know the coat hanger trick, there's a scope trick that will also get it open without drilling, again, assuming everything is working properly.
You're talking to the wrong "locksmith". No drilling, no lock replacing (assuming the lock is indeed functioning properly), and no $850 bill required. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:45:43 PM EDT
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Is there anyway I can do the the "trick"? Or is it a trade secret?
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Posted: 9/17/2014 11:56:09 PM EDT
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Go try your combination one more time. It might work.
Otherwise, call a friend that has some mechanical skills. It wouldn't take much to cut your safe open and then repair it..............as long as the hourly rate is calculated in beer. $900 sounds steep. Shop around. $900 may be cheap if you do the math on the contents. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 12:01:36 AM EDT
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It's such a good secret that there are several in the trade that don't even know it.
If you want to give me your zip code (you can PM me if you don't want to post it here), I'll see who's down in your area. It would cost you around $300 here in the St. Louis area. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 11:15:34 AM EDT
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It probably says to reset the code with the door open, to reduce the chance of lockout. I am not sure how it would know if the door was locked or not.
I would change the batteries and try again. Maybe there is not enough power for the solenoid. Also make sure the handle does not have force against the mechanism. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 11:17:21 AM EDT
[#8]
nevermind
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Posted: 9/18/2014 11:53:03 AM EDT
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Call locksmith. Also, manufacturer sometimes can help depending on how the combo is set up.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 12:51:40 PM EDT
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Call locksmith. Also, manufacturer sometimes can help depending on how the combo is set up. Called locksmith. Sent me to their safe guy. Safe guy gave me that price. Changed battery twice, have continuously tried the combo. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 12:59:55 PM EDT
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so stupid question but I would assume that the battery and keypad are on the outside of the case, as is the tiny keypad. from the keypad to the inside of the safe door there will be 2 wires, one will be positive and one negative... I MIGHT try you know powering the solenoid directly bypassing the keypad... Ah la directly power the starter on a car bypassing the key.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:29:30 PM EDT
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I MIGHT try you know powering the solenoid directly bypassing the keypad... Ah la directly power the starter on a car bypassing the key. This is why I like do it yourselfers. 
Don't do that. You'll fry the electronics. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:52:59 PM EDT
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so stupid question but I would assume that the battery and keypad are on the outside of the case, as is the tiny keypad. from the keypad to the inside of the safe door there will be 2 wires, one will be positive and one negative... I MIGHT try you know powering the solenoid directly bypassing the keypad... Ah la directly power the starter on a car bypassing the key. Yeah it would have to be a REALLY cheap and REALLY poorly designed safe for that to work. They don't work like that. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:00:51 PM EDT
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Can you hear the solenoid working when you type in the combo?
I have a vault at work that I replaced the old lock with a digital S&G and often it won't open when the last person closed it softly... I have to slam the handle into closed position again, wait for the solenoid to re-lock after a few seconds, and try the code again. I like to think that if there is pressure on the plunger of the lock it won't open as a safely measure... |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:24:19 PM EDT
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You should be able to beat the top open like a pop can with a 3 lb sledge.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:35:14 PM EDT
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CO2 extinguisher and a ball peen hammer.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:55:43 PM EDT
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IN!
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:08:02 PM EDT
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Can't believe I am the first to say"
DAY ONE |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:17:22 PM EDT
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Can't the safe company send you some type of override code to reset the lock? As long as you have proof that it's your safe?
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:24:13 PM EDT
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Can't the safe company send you some type of override code to reset the lock? As long as you have proof that it's your safe? One inch hole in the top, Fill safe with water, Suspend one M90 firecracker through hole, voila! I think I saw this in a movie once. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 9:11:38 PM EDT
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"The Score" Edward Norton, Robert Deniro
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Posted: 9/18/2014 10:12:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Stories like this are why I didn't go with an electronic lock. Combination lock only takes a few seconds longer and all the locksmiths on this board say that the majority of their calls are on the digital locks.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 10:18:33 PM EDT
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does it have a time out for too many wrong combos? Is it something you could wait 24hrs and try again?
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Posted: 9/18/2014 10:55:02 PM EDT
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I have 2 safes with electronic locks and if I did it again I would have a traditional lock instead. My locks have acted up occasionally since new and I have been locked out of a safe before. Thankfully it is a short time lockout and I was able to get in again later on.
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Posted: 9/19/2014 12:08:37 AM EDT
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Was that the lockout from getting too many codes wrong or a malfunction?
I am sort of in the mood for a dial myself - just for fun. But my next system is an electronic with a backup key. ITL-2000 safe autodialers sell on eBay for under $400, by the way. Like this: http://web.archive.org/web/20100107094822/http://web.mit.edu/kvogt/www/safecracker.html |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 1:12:51 AM EDT
[#26]
Another safe thread! I own page 2!
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Posted: 9/19/2014 10:04:31 AM EDT
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Can't the safe company send you some type of override code to reset the lock? As long as you have proof that it's your safe? That safe company is in China my friend. |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 10:18:21 AM EDT
[#28]
Tricks on ARFCOM.
Safe is his the neighbor's, who happens to be on a 1 week long vacation. 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 2:24:34 PM EDT
[#29]
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Stories like this are why I didn't go with an electronic lock. Combination lock only takes a few seconds longer and all the locksmiths on this board say that the majority of their calls are on the digital locks. Stories like this are the reason I paid close attention in the AMSEC thread and chose an electronic lock with a reliable track record. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 2:42:45 PM EDT
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I'm confused, your wife shut the safe? You keep sammich stuff in your gun safe?
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Posted: 9/21/2014 3:26:39 PM EDT
[#31]
Could be a dead keypad. Mine is on it's third keypad
 I've come to hate the electronic keypads. Call the manufacturer (probably Granite) and see what they tell you.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:13:10 PM EDT
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DAY 3
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:28:31 PM EDT
[#33]
Pic of said wife that fucked up the safe?
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:40:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Friend of mine had a bad tumbler on his Liberty safe. Locksmith drilled into it and had it open in less than 10 minutes. Charged him like $50 bucks. I realize yours is digital, but call another locksmith. To get into a $400 safe without destroying it can't be that fucking hard.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:53:13 PM EDT
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Locksmith drilled into it and had it open in less than 10 minutes. Charged him like $50 bucks. I have drill bits that cost more than that. To get into a $400 safe without destroying it can't be that fucking hard. Certainly not rocket science, but it does take valuable knowledge. Anybody can drill a hole. Not everybody knows where to drill it, or what to do with after it's there. Like I said previously, I can open this safe with a coat hanger. No drilling required. So easy, a caveman could do it......if a caveman knew how. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:59:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have drill bits that cost more than that. Certainly not rocket science, but it does take valuable knowledge. Anybody can drill a hole. Not everybody knows where to drill it, or what to do with after it's there. Like I said previously, I can open this safe with a coat hanger. No drilling required. So easy, a caveman could do it......if a caveman knew how. Quote HistoryQuoted: Locksmith drilled into it and had it open in less than 10 minutes. Charged him like $50 bucks. I have drill bits that cost more than that. To get into a $400 safe without destroying it can't be that fucking hard. Certainly not rocket science, but it does take valuable knowledge. Anybody can drill a hole. Not everybody knows where to drill it, or what to do with after it's there. Like I said previously, I can open this safe with a coat hanger. No drilling required. So easy, a caveman could do it......if a caveman knew how. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 5:06:31 PM EDT
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What is the best way to do it? I have a Winchester Legends safe. Has a GSP digital lock. Won't take my combo anymore. What I think happened was my wife didn't close the safe completely. My little kids like to punch the buttons when I'm not home. So I think it reset the combo to some random # they punched in. At least that's my theory. I'm not paying someone $900 to drill and replace a safe I only paid $400 for (it is a $1200 safe that bought used). So what is the best way to do this? Thanks. override code http://winchestersafes.com/combo%20request.pdf |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 5:07:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Did you try the default code?
123456 |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:51:19 AM EDT
[#39]
Did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?
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Posted: 9/22/2014 11:42:00 AM EDT
[#40]
I have an S&G electronic lock on mine and pray the thing doesn't become a horror story for me...
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Posted: 9/22/2014 12:35:02 PM EDT
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I have drill bits that cost more than that. Certainly not rocket science, but it does take valuable knowledge. Anybody can drill a hole. Not everybody knows where to drill it, or what to do with after it's there. Like I said previously, I can open this safe with a coat hanger. No drilling required. So easy, a caveman could do it......if a caveman knew how. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Locksmith drilled into it and had it open in less than 10 minutes. Charged him like $50 bucks. I have drill bits that cost more than that. To get into a $400 safe without destroying it can't be that fucking hard. Certainly not rocket science, but it does take valuable knowledge. Anybody can drill a hole. Not everybody knows where to drill it, or what to do with after it's there. Like I said previously, I can open this safe with a coat hanger. No drilling required. So easy, a caveman could do it......if a caveman knew how. If you drill the hole big enough it wouldn't matter 
A good axe will cut through 12ga too. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 12:50:05 PM EDT
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If you drill the hole big enough it wouldn't matter That's true. And if you're limited to small holes, if you drill enough of them, you're bound to hit something. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 12:51:16 PM EDT
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I have an S&G electronic lock on mine and pray the thing doesn't become a horror story for me... I had one(actually 3), after it would choose to lock me out for days on end. I had liberty send me a mech lock and had a locksmith swap it out. I do not regret it for a sec. |
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Posted: 10/12/2014 10:26:01 PM EDT
[#44]
Wonder if this ended well...................
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Posted: 10/13/2014 6:17:49 PM EDT
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Is it bolted down? If not, you can put it on its side, cut a section out of the bottom, take out the guns, and try opening the door from the inside...tricky, but possible.
Then you can replace the lock and use it again.....if you BOLT IT DOWN. |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 6:28:47 PM EDT
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I have a few safes and 1 has an electronic SG keypad
Few years ago had a single prob with it not unlocking ... tried multiple times to open - replaced battery. Just chilled a few hours then tried again and BINGO it opened. maybe has a shutdown mode if you try to open too many times in a row ? Maybe the batter R&R did the trick. Not really sure. Never figured out what was wrong and it only happened that 1 series of events. I prefer the spin dial. But keypad is nice for a 10 second open. Hope this info helps you BTW - there is a very long specific series of codes and steps to change the master combination. not a chance in a million your kids accidently reset to a different combo if your keypad works similar to mine to add pass codes - reset / change etc. |
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Posted: 10/13/2014 9:57:50 PM EDT
[#47]
Didn't read every post, but on the electronic safes I've seen there is a key lock under the key pad if you pull it off. This was on Winchester branded ones at least
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Posted: 10/14/2014 12:31:51 AM EDT
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Okay... that is one of those cheesy solenoids blocking boltwork. If it's not bolted down, then all you need to do is tip it back, let it fall forward and turn the handle just as it slams on the floor. Get the timing right and you will be in.
Options #2... if you know about where the button is, drill a small hole in the side nearest the button, and use a probe to find and push the button... walla! |
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Posted: 10/14/2014 12:38:38 AM EDT
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Okay... that is one of those cheesy solenoids blocking boltwork. If it's not bolted down, then all you need to do is tip it back, let it fall forward and turn the handle just as it slams on the floor. Get the timing right and you will be in. That trick won't work on that safe. Options #2... I'd be careful posting stuff like this. Wouldn't want to give the wrong people any ideas. |
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Posted: 10/14/2014 1:33:10 AM EDT
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"The Score" Edward Norton, Robert Deniro Good movie. |
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