Wife and I are expecting twins in November, so the HD stuff will have to be locked up.

Any recommendations on gun lockers that can be installed between existing wall studs?  TIA.

There is this.

www.tacticalwalls.com

This one appears on Slickguns often:  Stack On in wall cabinet at Walmart for $62

Guns don't need to be locked up immediately. You've got time before they start moving around and even more before they get to walking and exploring their curiosities.

Congrats on the new family!

Wonder how hard that would be to put it behind a mirror?  Maybe have the mirror secured with one of those magnetic locks.

This one is very good quality for the money, it screws into the studs on each side of it three times per side.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/141238562509?nav=SEARCH

Congrats on the twins, I have twin girls that are almost 5, it goes very fast.

I have the Closet Vault from Vline, very nice. Fast access without keys or electronic locks. It isn't a safe but keeps kids/cleaning lady from getting into them.

http://www.wicked-whitetails.com/V-Line-Closet-Vault-Ivory-51653-SA-IVY.htm?categoryId=-1


I happened to get one from a closeout/open box/return off ebay for about $250 but I think I got very lucky.

Thanks, guys.  I'm worried that the Stack-On won't fit an AR with a side mounted light.  I've seen that V-Line, and thinking that's the way to go, especially since a member has chimed in with experience.  

Lucky for me, the housecleaning gal is a shooter, so never had a problem with ar parts and glocks laying all over the house.  

How hard is the Closet Vault to pop open with a crowbar?  I've only seen the similar product from Stack-On, and I honestly wasn't impressed with metal thickness, overall construction and  specifically the way it's locking. I realize something like that is not intended to replace an RSC, but still... i would barely call it child proof. Is Closet Vault any better in that regard?

No it is not at all a safe replacement. But neither are lots of safes if you watch the videos on guys cracking them open with prybars. I'm currently building a walk in gun room/tornado shelter in the basement and will likely use a SturdySafe vault door for that. Think of the Stack-On and Closet Vault as a gear locker. The CV is sturdier and has 3 locks if you do use the keys. The big benefit of the CV is the shelving options and quick entry. For me it will always hold my home defense/daily carry stuff. When I go on vacation I'll have everything in the walk-in behind the vault door.

I have a home alarm (monitored) and will have the vault on a second alarm that is always on, even when we are home.

But to answer your question I'd look more at where you place the CV. If you put the opening side near a wall it will be much harder to pry open if that makes sense. But yes, I understand it can be opened in minutes. It is for keeping kids, guests and cleaning ladies out while allowing the very fastest access while still being behind any sort of lock. I wouldn't consider it for heavy security if that is your goal you'd be disappointed.

Double check the depth you'll need for a side mounted light. The CV goes beyond the drywall for extra depth so it likely works. I don't have anything mounted on the side of my AR. I use a Inforce WML at 12 o'clock on my AR for home defense so if I'm shooting while against a corner I won't blind myself or block the light. But that's my preference and doesn't always work on some setups.

The way I see it, if a kid is old enough to know how to defeat a security cabinet, find the key, or pick a lock, they are also old enough to be taught to keep out of the cabinet.  My parents had a wooden cabinet with glass doors, and had no issues with me, my brother, or my sister handling anything in the cabinet without permission.

I teach them AND keep shit locked up.

Congrats on the twins - 7 yr old boys here!

To expand on this for a second.

It is very easy to conceal items behind pictures, mirrors and other wall hanging items.
I've done several of these for myself and others.

Use a pair (or more depending on size and weight) of flat, roller ball, drawer slides.
Mount them to the back of said object and then to the wall.
If you do it right, have no more than 1/8" clearance to the wall, no one will ever know it moves.

The mirror or picture just slides up, down, left or right exposing the hidden area.

My four year old has never shot but knows and recognizes rifles and handguns as well as ammunition.  We've discussed firearm safety in terms she can understand.  

The rules in my house are pretty absolute.  No loaded weapons.  My definition of loaded is a round in the chamber.  I'll carry in condition 1, but will make safe when I get home.

Get used to securing your firearms, don't make exceptions, or take for granted how resourceful kids can be.

I've been looking at these lately as well.  

I don't like the Stack-on, where it requires a key.  I would rather have some kind of electronic or push-button mechanical lock, such that I could open the thing any time.  The Closet Vault model is good in this regard.  But I don't like how that one extends outward from the wall.  I'd like something that I can put a hinged mirror over to conceal as well, and I think that one is just too big for that.  

I like the looks of this one from Stealth Wall as it looks more natural and already has the mirror built in, but again it requires a key.  And it is really just for concealment, and appears less secure than the Stack-on model.  The locking mechanism appears to be the same type of child-proof locks I have on some of my bathroom cabinets.  It will keep small children out, but a strong tug will defeat it.

So ideally, I'd like to find something that's set up like the Stealth Wall, and locks like the Closet Vault.

Some more options.  No personal experience, here.



http://www.deansafe.com/gun-cabinets.html