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Posted: 9/4/2010 8:01:08 PM
Moved my Liberty 23 (Gander Mtn) gun safe and we removed the door by jimmyn' the door until it came off
Now we can't get it back on....
I saw specs on their website that the hinges are welded on the door and body so they don't unbolt off the door, unfortunately
The door lines up but then we need to pull the door towards the top of the safe to get the male hinge pins on the door into the female ones on the box side.
Now here is the problem.... the male hinge pins are 3" long and the door can only move 1" at most....

The only way we see to get it back on is to cut the hinge pins down to an inch maybe 3/4"

Yes, i know now to never remove the door but does anyone have a suggestion besides cutting the hinge pins???
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Posted: 9/4/2010 11:00:18 PM
why did u have to take the door off? That's a major pain.
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Posted: 9/4/2010 11:01:25 PM
DON'T CUT THE HING'S?
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Posted: 9/5/2010 12:00:36 PM
Your not supposed to take the door off a liberty. I work on safes for a living and have never had a liberty door off. Good luck with that one.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 1:42:01 PM
By "Jimmying" do you mean stuffing a crowbar between the door and the box and spreading the box apart till the door came off? Or maybe prying the door away from the box until it slid off?

However you tweaked it to come off you're going to have to do the same to get it back on, but this time you don't have the leverage of the door to help. So you've got a couple of options, find some other form of leverage like a farm jack, use hydraulic power like a porta power, or heat the hinge, bend it, put the door back on then heat again and bend it back.
Sorry, you've got the wrong 6'4" 240 pound pig. Try next door.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 2:13:08 PM
@$#k... just my luck....

No tools were used to remove the door just a few beers and some bad advise....

The biggest problem now is that i moved an hour away from everyone i know that can help.

I honestly don't see anyway to position the door to drop the pins back into the hinges.

Liberty says there hinges use ball bearings, does that mean there is a bearing in the bottom of the hinge that the male pins sits on to open smoothly?? This was the only concern i see with cutting the pin.

I understand the leverage tip i guess my next plan is to use a bottle jack and see if i can cram the hinges into place.

Thanks for he help guys, i'll let y'all know the outcome but i wouldn't be able to work on it until next weekend.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 4:09:06 PM
It sounds like you may need some type of hoist that can safely hold the weight of the door while the door is maneuvered into place.

This might be a good time to contact the factory before doing anything else like cutting pins or whatnot. There might be a simple, non-obvious trick to putting the door back on.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 5:46:08 PM
Well one thing for sure don't cut anything. If you got the door off with only beer and man power then you should be able to get it back on.
Maybe you can rent an engine hoist or something to hold the door while you try and slide it back on.
Wait... What?
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Posted: 9/5/2010 6:43:08 PM
Where are you at in NC? I have an engine hoist in Sanford that you could borrow if you think it would help.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 9:21:21 PM
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A simple hand truck/dolly to lift the door and manuver it into position and one person holding the door to stabalize it works wonders.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 3:15:26 AM
there is usually a set screw, and a round ball bearing that sits in the hole.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 3:22:27 AM

Originally Posted By Duratuss:
Well one thing for sure don't cut anything. If you got the door off with only beer and man power then you should be able to get it back on.
Maybe you can rent an engine hoist or something to hold the door while you try and slide it back on.


This...........Simply drink MOAR beer.

Problem solved
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Posted: 9/6/2010 5:49:24 PM
If you can take the bearings out you may be able to put the pins in the holes at an angle, then use a hoist to hold it in place while you put the bearings in and line it all up. This would be ideal as you don't have to bend or force anything.
Sorry, you've got the wrong 6'4" 240 pound pig. Try next door.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 2:58:57 AM
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Originally Posted By customcruiser:
Moved my Liberty 23 (Gander Mtn) gun safe and we removed the door by jimmyn' the door until it came off
Now we can't get it back on....
I saw specs on their website that the hinges are welded on the door and body so they don't unbolt off the door, unfortunately
The door lines up but then we need to pull the door towards the top of the safe to get the male hinge pins on the door into the female ones on the box side.
Now here is the problem.... the male hinge pins are 3" long and the door can only move 1" at most....

The only way we see to get it back on is to cut the hinge pins down to an inch maybe 3/4"

Yes, i know now to never remove the door but does anyone have a suggestion besides cutting the hinge pins???


Buy a new safe, cause you just destroyed that one.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 4:12:04 PM
Can you explain why you took the door off???? It is not like moving a dresser and taking the drawers out.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 6:17:41 PM

Originally Posted By charliehorse794:
Can you explain why you took the door off???? It is not like moving a dresser and taking the drawers out.

From an earlier post

a few beers and some bad advise...

The job at hand is getting it back on, not berating him for taking it off. But don't worry, when it's back on we'll have a long thread where we get to call him a dumbass as many different ways possible, we'll even use a thesaurus to make sure we don't miss any.
Sorry, you've got the wrong 6'4" 240 pound pig. Try next door.
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Posted: 9/12/2010 8:16:03 PM
You might try calling Liberty, worst case scenario they join the majority in laughing at you...
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Posted: 11/7/2010 9:22:37 PM
I am sure you already figured it out, but just to put it out there because I just had the same problem. The key to getting the door back on it to turn the door and the safe upside down, then you will be able to roll the "top" (now the bottom pin) pin inside the frame and the bottom (now the top) will roll right into the frame.