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Originally Posted By FortKnoxVaults:
Pardon the crappy iPotato pics in a dim basement. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=77862 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=77863 View from inside looking out. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=77864 Room is 22x22 and needs a lot of work. Once I get out from under other house projects and the yard the fun begins. View Quote How much does a door like that cost? |
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Originally Posted By Sooner67:
Thank you for the answers fellas. I spoke with the builder, plumbing inspection is done and we are grading for concrete today. He said it wasn't possible at this point to add a floor drain in that room but he could add a wall drain. I told him no HVAC into that room too. Is there any need for a passive air tube like a PVC pipe that will allow air in case you are in there for a tornado? I wouldn't want to run out of oxygen to breathe if the room is all sealed off. My brother in law put one in his tornado room that comes out then curves downward in the attic space above so water couldn't run in. What are yalls thoughts? The door is ready to ship, it's a Fort Knox I ordered from Ryan on here. Just waiting on a foundation so they can deliver it. I'll post pics as its going up View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sooner67:
Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
Originally Posted By Sooner67:
I am about to begin construction on our home and I am adding a 10'x12' (measurements on the plan, actual interior will be smaller due to thickness of cinderblocks) vault room. It is above ground (no basement). I will have my workbench and wall displayed guns via gallowtech. My question is what are yall doing for ventilation/temp control into your room? My concerns are humidity control and temperature for comfort when working. The builder suggested tying into the HVAC system of the house with a vent and return vent. I've been told there are fire dampers that close off a particular temps in case of fire. Another option is a separate mini unit that has its own compressor outside and a wall mounted AC/heater in the room. I've also been told due to the nature of the cinder block with concrete poured in it the temp will remain at a pretty constant temp and then I'd just have to use some sort of golden rod or dehumidifier I'm guessing. I know many of yall have these rooms in a basement and moisture is of great concern. What should I consider to maintain proper humidity and comfortable temp? If your room is covered by a roof and insulated walls which I assume it will (as in, it's not standing in direct sun to concrete), then you shouldn't worry about temperature. Your issue is going to be humidity, you can get a single room size dehumidifier, so a good idea is to put a drain somewhere in your room so that you can get a dehumidifier with a condensate pump... so you never have to empty it. Build the room first, if you feel like you want it warmer/cooler, then get a mini split system... but do not duct HVAC from your homes air handler.... regardless if you can get fire dampers. Thank you for the answers fellas. I spoke with the builder, plumbing inspection is done and we are grading for concrete today. He said it wasn't possible at this point to add a floor drain in that room but he could add a wall drain. I told him no HVAC into that room too. Is there any need for a passive air tube like a PVC pipe that will allow air in case you are in there for a tornado? I wouldn't want to run out of oxygen to breathe if the room is all sealed off. My brother in law put one in his tornado room that comes out then curves downward in the attic space above so water couldn't run in. What are yalls thoughts? The door is ready to ship, it's a Fort Knox I ordered from Ryan on here. Just waiting on a foundation so they can deliver it. I'll post pics as its going up One person in that room assuming it's a 8' ceiling should be able to survive 2.4 days with a sealed off room of that size. Obviously a ton of factors plays into this including weight, size, etc etc. How long does one camp out in a tornado shelter for? If you are planning on having say 4 people sleep overnight in it then you'd need to put vents in. You could always put a breather pipe in there like your BIL did but put an easy to remove endcap on it. So when it's not needed you have yourself a air tight setup that would aide in fire... but when you are camping in it or need it, you can just twist off the cap. Best of both worlds. Hang an aircraft warning flag (remove before flight type tag) from it so you don't end up forgetting.... put an air monitor alarm in there too if you want to feel better. |
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Originally Posted By FortKnoxVaults:
MSRP on doors starts at about $4250. That particular door being the larger size, high gloss paint, inswing and with added AR500 liner retails for $8185 Of course working here has its advantages.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FortKnoxVaults:
Originally Posted By Biohawk1:
How much does a door like that cost? MSRP on doors starts at about $4250. That particular door being the larger size, high gloss paint, inswing and with added AR500 liner retails for $8185 Of course working here has its advantages.... Is there some sort of payment plan for buying such an expensive item? |
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Originally Posted By FortKnoxVaults: MSRP on doors starts at about $4250. That particular door being the larger size, high gloss paint, inswing and with added AR500 liner retails for $8185 Of course working here has its advantages.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FortKnoxVaults: Originally Posted By Biohawk1: How much does a door like that cost? MSRP on doors starts at about $4250. That particular door being the larger size, high gloss paint, inswing and with added AR500 liner retails for $8185 Of course working here has its advantages.... What is the story with the threaded 2/3rd gen Smith? And the Ruger MKII threaded? |
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Originally Posted By Biohawk1:
Is there some sort of payment plan for buying such an expensive item? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Biohawk1:
Originally Posted By FortKnoxVaults:
Originally Posted By Biohawk1:
How much does a door like that cost? MSRP on doors starts at about $4250. That particular door being the larger size, high gloss paint, inswing and with added AR500 liner retails for $8185 Of course working here has its advantages.... Is there some sort of payment plan for buying such an expensive item? Some of my dealers offer financing. There is no factory direct financing however. Price wise they start at about the cost of a 72x41 guardian vault which is a steal when you consider they have the same mechanism as the guardian, 19-24 bolts (in-swing - 19 out-swing - 24) an electronic lock, and a 3/8" door plate -1300 pounds starting weight. Also probably the lowest $ per pound you find in a vault door out there. Would there be an interest if we could make a lighter weight version for less? No idea what the features would be at this point but I am willing to pitch an idea. |
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I'm interested in using a ft Knox door in my vault build on my houses new addition. Do the doors typically swing in? I'd be interested in the 40" putting it in a room about 6' deep and 16 ft long.
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Doors are available in outswing or inswing depending on your preference. The outswing doors are typically a bit less expensive than the inswing, though not significantly so. Just depends on what fits your application.
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Originally Posted By Radi8r:
I'm interested in using a ft Knox door in my vault build on my houses new addition. Do the doors typically swing in? I'd be interested in the 40" putting it in a room about 6' deep and 16 ft long. View Quote The one person I know that actually has a gun/safe room opted for an inswing door. His reasoning was, although it is a gun room, it is also a hurricane room for he and his family in times of natural emergencies. His thought process was if the house came down around him, he would still be able to open the door from the inside, without a debris pile stopping the door... Of course, even with a door that opens inward, you may open the door and just see a large debris pile and still be stuck.... |
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Noted. I was talking to my father in law who is in emergency management and that was his thought as well. Looking like this room is going to have air purification and a landline phone as well.
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I finally have the space just not sure where to start. Keep the ideas coming
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Originally Posted By BM-ARM-DPMS-guns:
You have a better gun wall than this guy....and that's saying something http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s51/trob500/burttremors2.jpg I've never run out of ammo either. Then again, I've never fought off a hoard of Precambrian beasts View Quote You guys just made my night i was just thinking i want to have a gunroom like burt |
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Originally Posted By NCUrk:
The one person I know that actually has a gun/safe room opted for an inswing door. His reasoning was, although it is a gun room, it is also a hurricane room for he and his family in times of natural emergencies. His thought process was if the house came down around him, he would still be able to open the door from the inside, without a debris pile stopping the door... Of course, even with a door that opens inward, you may open the door and just see a large debris pile and still be stuck.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NCUrk:
Originally Posted By Radi8r:
I'm interested in using a ft Knox door in my vault build on my houses new addition. Do the doors typically swing in? I'd be interested in the 40" putting it in a room about 6' deep and 16 ft long. The one person I know that actually has a gun/safe room opted for an inswing door. His reasoning was, although it is a gun room, it is also a hurricane room for he and his family in times of natural emergencies. His thought process was if the house came down around him, he would still be able to open the door from the inside, without a debris pile stopping the door... Of course, even with a door that opens inward, you may open the door and just see a large debris pile and still be stuck.... This is the reason i chose an outward swing. If my entire house came down and blocked the door swinging out, then I have way bigger problems than the tornado that just rolled through. The leads swing is what I chose and I would do it that way again. |
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Found this while crawling the interwebs. Thought I should maybe bump this thread by sharing it here... Dan Bilzerian's gun room? http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/17/6b/89/176b894c124a300491408f277753eebf.jpg View Quote Not Dans. Belongs to prominent dealer on the West coast. |
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Originally Posted By SERVED_USMC:
Not Dans. Belongs to prominent dealer on the West coast. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SERVED_USMC:
Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Found this while crawling the interwebs. Thought I should maybe bump this thread by sharing it here... Dan Bilzerian's gun room? http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/17/6b/89/176b894c124a300491408f277753eebf.jpg Not Dans. Belongs to prominent dealer on the West coast. Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't really sure. It's certainly worthy of the "Gun Room" title though. |
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Originally Posted By SERVED_USMC: Not Dans. Belongs to prominent dealer on the West coast. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SERVED_USMC: Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71: Found this while crawling the interwebs. Thought I should maybe bump this thread by sharing it here... Dan Bilzerian's gun room? http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/17/6b/89/176b894c124a300491408f277753eebf.jpg Not Dans. Belongs to prominent dealer on the West coast. |
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Anyone ever use Security Barrier Mesh ? Something similar to this product Security Mesh.
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Originally Posted By 175BFD:
Anyone ever use Security Barrier Mesh ? Something similar to this product Security Mesh. View Quote It works. Lots of businesses uses these. |
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater: It works. Lots of businesses uses these. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TacticalHeater: Originally Posted By 175BFD: Anyone ever use Security Barrier Mesh ? Something similar to this product Security Mesh. It works. Lots of businesses uses these. |
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You would definitely install the mesh barrier and drywall over it. We did work during a remodel for a big gun collector and he did his room this way. Came out nice
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I am throwing around the idea of installing this. The room is unfinished so it may work out to install it before I drywall.
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Originally Posted By grimhollow:
I'm thinking of doing this in a small "ammo and magazine room" that I will be finishing in my house. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By grimhollow:
Originally Posted By 175BFD:
I am throwing around the idea of installing this. The room is unfinished so it may work out to install it before I drywall. I'm thinking of doing this in a small "ammo and magazine room" that I will be finishing in my house. There is a drywall product called Hi-Impact (among other brands) that is standard drywall with a lexan backing bonded to it. 2 layers of this product produce an impressive finished wall. I first saw it used in interview rooms for a police station build I managed. I wouldn't rely on it alone, but more of an additional layer to other systems. Or, for a room that might need a lower level of security like for ammo and accessories. |
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Originally Posted By Equator:
There is a drywall product called Hi-Impact (among other brands) that is standard drywall with a lexan backing bonded to it. 2 layers of this product produce an impressive finished wall. I first saw it used in interview rooms for a police station build I managed. I wouldn't rely on it alone, but more of an additional layer to other systems. Or, for a room that might need a lower level of security like for ammo and accessories. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Equator:
Originally Posted By grimhollow:
Originally Posted By 175BFD:
I am throwing around the idea of installing this. The room is unfinished so it may work out to install it before I drywall. I'm thinking of doing this in a small "ammo and magazine room" that I will be finishing in my house. There is a drywall product called Hi-Impact (among other brands) that is standard drywall with a lexan backing bonded to it. 2 layers of this product produce an impressive finished wall. I first saw it used in interview rooms for a police station build I managed. I wouldn't rely on it alone, but more of an additional layer to other systems. Or, for a room that might need a lower level of security like for ammo and accessories. Interesting. I will look into it. |
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Does anyone with experience using the security barrier mesh care to share on cost and where they purchased the product? I've got a basement room I'd like to reinforce, and I think this could be the ticket for the non brick walled areas. I'm wondering if this type of product isn't available more locally or if you have to work through a large dealer and order commercial quantities.
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I haven't used it, but I would call my local steel supplier and see how much they want per sheet of expanded metal before getting the "special" stuff.
As long as it is painted and rust proofed or stainless the expanded metal will likely be just as effective as the "hardened" stuff and perhaps at significantly less cost. |
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Originally Posted By david_the_greek:
Does anyone with experience using the security barrier mesh care to share on cost and where they purchased the product? I've got a basement room I'd like to reinforce, and I think this could be the ticket for the non brick walled areas. I'm wondering if this type of product isn't available more locally or if you have to work through a large dealer and order commercial quantities. View Quote Are you thinking an EMP shielding mesh? I bought some for work to go in junction boxes over the glass door so that when the opperators keyed their radios it wouldnt screw with our equipment. I think I bought 3 yards of stainless mesh for about $125. That was about 5 years ago. |
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Originally Posted By disorientedpilot:
I haven't used it, but I would call my local steel supplier and see how much they want per sheet of expanded metal before getting the "special" stuff. View Quote About $45 for a 4x8 sheet when I bought some last year. The thicker stuff...not that wimpy shit you see at Lowes/Home Depot |
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Seems like chain link fencing could be attached to the studs and then drywalled
or cement boarded over it for less money |
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You guys are high tech! I just used half inch OSB.
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I've gotten a lot of ideas from this thread for my gun room. I'm currently finishing up with the oak lam I'm putting up on the walls and have a week or two worth of trim and paint left before I put in the ceiling. I went with slatwall for the display and carpeted them with grey indoor outdoor carpet. I'm staining the oak with red chestnut and trimming it all out with ebonized trim. I lucked out and got all of my cabinetry from a reclaim store and used some large solid core pocket doors to make countertops out of. In reality I'm probably looking at another few months before I get everything exactly as I want. I want to show it off but have reservations on posting pics due to security concerns even though I have a pretty good layered security system.
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Originally Posted By NCUrk:
With your Avatar... Is Gus part of your layered system? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRD8mTj5B5s View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NCUrk:
Originally Posted By DM1975:
I've gotten a lot of ideas from this thread for my gun room. I'm currently finishing up with the oak lam I'm putting up on the walls and have a week or two worth of trim and paint left before I put in the ceiling. I went with slatwall for the display and carpeted them with grey indoor outdoor carpet. I'm staining the oak with red chestnut and trimming it all out with ebonized trim. I lucked out and got all of my cabinetry from a reclaim store and used some large solid core pocket doors to make countertops out of. In reality I'm probably looking at another few months before I get everything exactly as I want. I want to show it off but have reservations on posting pics due to security concerns even though I have a pretty good layered security system. With your Avatar... Is Gus part of your layered system? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRD8mTj5B5s Yep, he shot many a sassy bandit with just his pistol too! |
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Very nice
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Thanks. It's small by it's mine.
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Originally Posted By DM1975:
Hell, I guess it can't hurt none. Still not finished but here is a panoramic shot of it. <a href="http://s24.photobucket.com/user/DM1975/media/The%20Study/D222F2B8-D696-4943-940A-827D36E863CD_zpszxmno3ys.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/The%20Study/D222F2B8-D696-4943-940A-827D36E863CD_zpszxmno3ys.jpg</a> View Quote Wait....hmmm...no...I don't see them.... Where's all U wonderful retros?? |
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Wait....hmmm...no...I don't see them.... Where's all U wonderful retros?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Originally Posted By DM1975:
Hell, I guess it can't hurt none. Still not finished but here is a panoramic shot of it. <a href="http://s24.photobucket.com/user/DM1975/media/The%20Study/D222F2B8-D696-4943-940A-827D36E863CD_zpszxmno3ys.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/The%20Study/D222F2B8-D696-4943-940A-827D36E863CD_zpszxmno3ys.jpg</a> Wait....hmmm...no...I don't see them.... Where's all U wonderful retros?? Only one I have left is the XM177E2 and its laying on the countertop on the right side under the SBR's. I have to build some new ones. |
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You clearly have poor taste as to not using knotty pine...but please continue with your disaster
Seriously though your have a beautiful setup. I am taking notes for our build. Are you using a vault door or safe for the real valuable items? |
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Originally Posted By FLchuck8:
You clearly have poor taste as to not using knotty pine...but please continue with your disaster Seriously though your have a beautiful setup. I am taking notes for our build. Are you using a vault door or safe for the real valuable items? View Quote Those guns aren't valuable enough or something??? Thanks. For now I just have a regular interior door but I do plan on getting a vault door when I can. Between now and then I believe I may put my welding experience to work and make a good heavy steel door and reinforce the door jamb with steel as well. While I know it isn't full proof by any means I do have a monitored security system and security cameras on the house and some good watchful neighbors. Plus the dogs. And the house is rarely ever unoccupied. |
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Originally Posted By DM1975:
Those guns aren't valuable enough or something??? Thanks. For now I just have a regular interior door but I do plan on getting a vault door when I can. Between now and then I believe I may put my welding experience to work and make a good heavy steel door and reinforce the door jamb with steel as well. While I know it isn't full proof by any means I do have a monitored security system and security cameras on the house and some good watchful neighbors. Plus the dogs. And the house is rarely ever unoccupied. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DM1975:
Originally Posted By FLchuck8:
You clearly have poor taste as to not using knotty pine...but please continue with your disaster Seriously though your have a beautiful setup. I am taking notes for our build. Are you using a vault door or safe for the real valuable items? Those guns aren't valuable enough or something??? Thanks. For now I just have a regular interior door but I do plan on getting a vault door when I can. Between now and then I believe I may put my welding experience to work and make a good heavy steel door and reinforce the door jamb with steel as well. While I know it isn't full proof by any means I do have a monitored security system and security cameras on the house and some good watchful neighbors. Plus the dogs. And the house is rarely ever unoccupied. Did you buy those slatwalls pre carpeted? If so where? Thanks. Looks good. |
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I did the carpeting myself. It's kind of a bitch till you get the hang of doing it.
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Originally Posted By DM1975:
Hell, I guess it can't hurt none. Still not finished but here is a panoramic shot of it. <a href="http://s24.photobucket.com/user/DM1975/media/The%20Study/D222F2B8-D696-4943-940A-827D36E863CD_zpszxmno3ys.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/The%20Study/D222F2B8-D696-4943-940A-827D36E863CD_zpszxmno3ys.jpg</a> View Quote Nice job! Simple and utilitarian. If I had the space in my house I'd also build something like that. |
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Originally Posted By Rossi:
Nice job! Simple and utilitarian. If I had the space in my house I'd also build something like that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rossi:
Originally Posted By DM1975:
Hell, I guess it can't hurt none. Still not finished but here is a panoramic shot of it. <a href="http://s24.photobucket.com/user/DM1975/media/The%20Study/D222F2B8-D696-4943-940A-827D36E863CD_zpszxmno3ys.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/The%20Study/D222F2B8-D696-4943-940A-827D36E863CD_zpszxmno3ys.jpg</a> Nice job! Simple and utilitarian. If I had the space in my house I'd also build something like that. Thanks. I'm adding corner shelves between the slatwall as well. I'm also planning on adding a rack for my radios and scanners on the far left side. Plus the other wall that's out of the photo I haven't even started on yet but it'll be for my hunting rifles and gear storage. |
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