Posted: 9/17/2015 11:02:04 AM EDT
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kind of this, but I would add that their 716 has been redesigned into a G2 configuration so while I could see the 516 taking a back seat to the MCX/MPX line up, the role of the 716 is so that I think that It may almost serve sig as their center piece. the 716 isn't "there" yet, but has a lot of potential.
love my first gen 556, but after 10 years of running I am beginning to worry about spare parts, especially a second barrel as once that's gone, the gun is done. its somewhat disconcerting that after 10 years, sig never made made spare parts a thing with the 556, View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Quoted:
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The classic SIG rifles are going to be dropped at some point. I guarantee it.
SIG is increasingly defense oriented, while recognizing that their biggest customer is the US civilian market. You really don't make a lot of money, or reinforce yourself as a forward thinking modern arms company by selling an outdated design that really only appeal to collectors. There's little to no demand in the foreign arms market, and NONE in the western world for any version of the 550, 556, or XI. The global defense industry is hardcore wired for ARs and new rifles.
SIG is pushing the MCX as it's latest and greatest, and I could see it relegating the 516/716 to the back shelf. (It really is a better design). Unlike the ACR, it is already being adopted by some of the top units in the world and will do the "HK416" thing of being in tthe gun locker of every highspeed CT unit and SWAT team, while also actually being available for you to buy.
kind of this, but I would add that their 716 has been redesigned into a G2 configuration so while I could see the 516 taking a back seat to the MCX/MPX line up, the role of the 716 is so that I think that It may almost serve sig as their center piece. the 716 isn't "there" yet, but has a lot of potential.
love my first gen 556, but after 10 years of running I am beginning to worry about spare parts, especially a second barrel as once that's gone, the gun is done. its somewhat disconcerting that after 10 years, sig never made made spare parts a thing with the 556,
I REALLY liked the prototypes of the 716 LW, which I believe became the G2. However, SIG has already shown off working prototypes of the MCX-M (CSASS entrant) which are SR25 receiver compatible. having been involved in a lot of 716 projects I've always gotten the feeling that the G2 is the stopgap for the next few years until the MCX-M goes through needed development to become a viable system long term. The 516 has been fairly concrete while every change to the 716 I saw was incremental for best and, to me, suggested they were trying to figure out the best direction to go with it long term.
The G2 looks like a great gun (and the 716 IS a great gun), but it's not commercially available, and I'm not confident that there's too much future in it because it introduces future product redundancy.
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while a great little carbine, its not the world beater that HK would love for people to believe. its never been able to distance its self from other high end AR's in terms of performance. the SEAL's love them but they also love Eotechs, a RDS that has an order of magnitude more issues than an aimpoint so go figure
Which is why the MCX has a chance at filling that slot. It has a lot more things going for it than the 416. Folding/Sliding stocks, quick change barrels/calibers, etc. The 416 doesn't really offer a whole lot more than a MK18.
The HK416 is a very highly regarded firearm but, materials advantages aside, it does little for most over a 10.5" AR or MK18. The MCX has a lot going for it that significantly improves over the HK416 and the AR. When the HKM4 project was developed they ended up scraping a lot of the goals and shoving a G36 oprod in an AR (originally it was supposed to be a G36-esque rifle that fit the M4 lower). The lead engineer went to SIG and was given the free reign to develop the LVAW (later HALO, then MPX/MCX) how he wanted. This resulted in a rifle whos gas system was designed to use as little gas as possible, allow for a variety of folding stocks, has as little recoil as possible, and designed to be suppressed without the noise of the gas system. I'm fairly confident that these advantages may make it the non-AR rifle of choice with legitimate advantages over the AR.
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