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Posted: 6/2/2015 4:21:10 PM EDT
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yes a bunch have done the 7.62 versions to sbr. Mine is back at sig now to look over a few things but also my form1 has been pending.
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Posted: 6/2/2015 5:53:56 PM EDT
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Currently, I have a 556 Classic and a 556R Classic. I've been thinking of getting a pistol upper for each and making SBR's.
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Posted: 6/3/2015 1:40:19 PM EDT
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Hi I have a p556xi that I sbr'd. It originally came with the sig brace and I was able to order the sig swiss style folding stock directly from Sig to add to it once my form 1 was approved. It literally took only a few minutes to switch from the sig brace to the stock without having to purchase a lower.
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Posted: 6/3/2015 9:06:18 PM EDT
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I thought Sig was supposed to be offering 10" and 14.5" barrels for the 556XI?
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Posted: 6/3/2015 10:28:27 PM EDT
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Hi I have a p556xi that I sbr'd. It originally came with the sig brace and I was able to order the sig swiss style folding stock directly from Sig to add to it once my form 1 was approved. It literally took only a few minutes to switch from the sig brace to the stock without having to purchase a lower. I hope this helps. Got any pictures? Range reports? |
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Posted: 6/5/2015 11:32:10 PM EDT
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Hi I have a p556xi that I sbr'd. It originally came with the sig brace and I was able to order the sig swiss style folding stock directly from Sig to add to it once my form 1 was approved. It literally took only a few minutes to switch from the sig brace to the stock without having to purchase a lower. I hope this helps. I have/did the exact same thing. Mine is the p556xi. Bought my folder direct from Sig too. Love it. Bought it in December of 14 and not an issue with it yet. I bought a Houge grip, and it has a different muzzle brake and charging handle on it now.  </a>" />
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Posted: 6/11/2015 1:51:09 AM EDT
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I thought Sig was supposed to be offering 10" and 14.5" barrels for the 556XI? two different sig reps told me they would be shipping mid year.... will see. I have a form 1 already approved but would rather buy a 10" factory barrel vs. chopping the original barrel. Plus I want the full 7.62x39 kit. |
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Posted: 6/11/2015 12:40:51 PM EDT
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I wouldn't chop any 7.62 barrel. There was someone that did a form1 rifle to sbr and chopped the barrel to 10" and it doesn't work. Sig must use different size gas holes in the barrels.
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:27:21 AM EDT
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I wouldn't chop any 7.62 barrel. There was someone that did a form1 rifle to sbr and chopped the barrel to 10" and it doesn't work. Sig must use different size gas holes in the barrels. That was my thoughts too. I'd rather buy a factory made upper with a short barrel rather than chop one down and have to tweak the ports to get it to work right. I'm going through some of the same issues with an AR15 10.5 SBR right now. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:33:40 AM EDT
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That was my thoughts too. I'd rather buy a factory made upper with a short barrel rather than chop one down and have to tweak the ports to get it to work right. I'm going through some of the same issues with an AR15 10.5 SBR right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't chop any 7.62 barrel. There was someone that did a form1 rifle to sbr and chopped the barrel to 10" and it doesn't work. Sig must use different size gas holes in the barrels. That was my thoughts too. I'd rather buy a factory made upper with a short barrel rather than chop one down and have to tweak the ports to get it to work right. I'm going through some of the same issues with an AR15 10.5 SBR right now. Did you call sig? You can call Ryan at 1-866-619-1128 and ask him about it. He is very helpful. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 9:46:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have/did the exact same thing. Mine is the p556xi. Bought my folder direct from Sig too. Love it. Bought it in December of 14 and not an issue with it yet. I bought a Houge grip, and it has a different muzzle brake and charging handle on it now. http://<a href=http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b572/stevetx77/IMG_3048_zpsf5d1zvk1.jpg</a>" /> Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hi I have a p556xi that I sbr'd. It originally came with the sig brace and I was able to order the sig swiss style folding stock directly from Sig to add to it once my form 1 was approved. It literally took only a few minutes to switch from the sig brace to the stock without having to purchase a lower. I hope this helps. I have/did the exact same thing. Mine is the p556xi. Bought my folder direct from Sig too. Love it. Bought it in December of 14 and not an issue with it yet. I bought a Houge grip, and it has a different muzzle brake and charging handle on it now. http://<a href=http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b572/stevetx77/IMG_3048_zpsf5d1zvk1.jpg</a>" /> That looks really nice. I like it! |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:35:18 PM EDT
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Did you call sig? You can call Ryan at 1-866-619-1128 and ask him about it. He is very helpful. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't chop any 7.62 barrel. There was someone that did a form1 rifle to sbr and chopped the barrel to 10" and it doesn't work. Sig must use different size gas holes in the barrels. That was my thoughts too. I'd rather buy a factory made upper with a short barrel rather than chop one down and have to tweak the ports to get it to work right. I'm going through some of the same issues with an AR15 10.5 SBR right now. Did you call sig? You can call Ryan at 1-866-619-1128 and ask him about it. He is very helpful. If you're asking about my 10.5 SBR, it's not a Sig, so I doubt they would be able to help. I was thinking of getting a 556xi pistol upper for my rifle receiver, doing a Form-1 and having a registered SBR. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 12:37:52 PM EDT
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If you're asking about my 10.5 SBR, it's not a Sig, so I doubt they would be able to help. I was thinking of getting a 556xi pistol upper for my rifle receiver, doing a Form-1 and having a registered SBR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't chop any 7.62 barrel. There was someone that did a form1 rifle to sbr and chopped the barrel to 10" and it doesn't work. Sig must use different size gas holes in the barrels. That was my thoughts too. I'd rather buy a factory made upper with a short barrel rather than chop one down and have to tweak the ports to get it to work right. I'm going through some of the same issues with an AR15 10.5 SBR right now. Did you call sig? You can call Ryan at 1-866-619-1128 and ask him about it. He is very helpful. If you're asking about my 10.5 SBR, it's not a Sig, so I doubt they would be able to help. I was thinking of getting a 556xi pistol upper for my rifle receiver, doing a Form-1 and having a registered SBR. Yes that is what I'm talking about. Call and ask about getting a 556xi 10" pistol upper. I'm curious to see what they say. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 7:36:36 PM EDT
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Yes that is what I'm talking about. Call and ask about getting a 556xi 10" pistol upper. I'm curious to see what they say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't chop any 7.62 barrel. There was someone that did a form1 rifle to sbr and chopped the barrel to 10" and it doesn't work. Sig must use different size gas holes in the barrels. That was my thoughts too. I'd rather buy a factory made upper with a short barrel rather than chop one down and have to tweak the ports to get it to work right. I'm going through some of the same issues with an AR15 10.5 SBR right now. Did you call sig? You can call Ryan at 1-866-619-1128 and ask him about it. He is very helpful. If you're asking about my 10.5 SBR, it's not a Sig, so I doubt they would be able to help. I was thinking of getting a 556xi pistol upper for my rifle receiver, doing a Form-1 and having a registered SBR. Yes that is what I'm talking about. Call and ask about getting a 556xi 10" pistol upper. I'm curious to see what they say. The upper is the firearm, and they don't sell just the receiver. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:28:52 AM EDT
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Duh, forgot about that. I guess you just have to order the barrel but I heard stories about sig not willing to sell short barrels to rifle owners. I doubt that is true though.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 1:29:52 AM EDT
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I haven't seen anyone do a conversion from pistol to sbr, but we have a factory SBR in the shop.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 8:56:28 AM EDT
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My pistol will be converted to a sbr. Just waiting on the atf
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Posted: 7/6/2015 9:46:39 PM EDT
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I haven't seen anyone do a conversion from pistol to sbr, but we have a factory SBR in the shop. Got some info on your shop? |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 10:42:01 PM EDT
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I haven't seen anyone do a conversion from pistol to sbr, but we have a factory SBR in the shop. Got some info on your shop? We are Cold Hands Arms/Oklahoma Machine Guns. We are inside Wilshire Gun in OKC. If you want to stop by and look at it, you are more than welcome. Then you can decide if you want to SBR yours or not. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 8:53:49 AM EDT
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We are Cold Hands Arms/Oklahoma Machine Guns. We are inside Wilshire Gun in OKC. If you want to stop by and look at it, you are more than welcome. Then you can decide if you want to SBR yours or not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I haven't seen anyone do a conversion from pistol to sbr, but we have a factory SBR in the shop. Got some info on your shop? We are Cold Hands Arms/Oklahoma Machine Guns. We are inside Wilshire Gun in OKC. If you want to stop by and look at it, you are more than welcome. Then you can decide if you want to SBR yours or not. This wouldn't be Steve I'm talking to would it? |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 1:06:20 AM EDT
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Negative, this is Tyler
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Posted: 7/8/2015 1:07:49 AM EDT
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I think Steve has pretty much sworn off ARFCOM. I troll through here just to keep up with things and see what's new.
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Posted: 7/10/2015 1:02:22 PM EDT
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Is this SBR for sale or is it a rental gun? I may have to make an excuse to go up there and grab a burger and pet the Shepherd.
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Posted: 7/10/2015 5:17:02 PM EDT
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It is for sale the last time I checked. I haven't been in the last few days. Our MPXs did show up, so I am going to have to get in there asson as I get back from AT. But, do you really need a reason to eat the food and pet the dog?
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Posted: 7/10/2015 7:34:50 PM EDT
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The main reason I need an excuse is that it's about a 40 mile one way drive from my house.
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Posted: 7/10/2015 7:43:22 PM EDT
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Guys, why don't we take this to IM. It's getting somewhat close to advertising for my comfort.
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Posted: 7/19/2015 9:36:00 AM EDT
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I've done plenty. Ya sometime you have to tweak the gas ports, this is almost always needed whenever you remove so much barrel. Really if you can chop and rethread the barrel, working the gas port up in size is not a big deal.
Classic 556R I've had a long time. |
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Posted: 7/19/2015 3:22:19 PM EDT
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Chopping a barrel was what I was wanting to avoid. I recently started looking at buying a 10" 516 upper to put on my AR since it's already SBR registered.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 2:30:05 AM EDT
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I've done plenty. Ya sometime you have to tweak the gas ports, this is almost always needed whenever you remove so much barrel. Really if you can chop and rethread the barrel, working the gas port up in size is not a big deal. http://i59.tinypic.com/11wfwog.jpg Classic 556R I've had a long time. But can you run a can on that without hitting the gas adjustment key? I have a XI and deciding whether to chop or just cancel the stamp. Was really planning on the conversion kits. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:45:10 AM EDT
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I've heard from a few people the 556R and 556xiR don't suppress well.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 8:47:30 AM EDT
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I have/did the exact same thing. Mine is the p556xi. Bought my folder direct from Sig too. Love it. Bought it in December of 14 and not an issue with it yet. I bought a Houge grip, and it has a different muzzle brake and charging handle on it now. http://<a href=http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b572/stevetx77/IMG_3048_zpsf5d1zvk1.jpg</a>" /> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hi I have a p556xi that I sbr'd. It originally came with the sig brace and I was able to order the sig swiss style folding stock directly from Sig to add to it once my form 1 was approved. It literally took only a few minutes to switch from the sig brace to the stock without having to purchase a lower. I hope this helps. I have/did the exact same thing. Mine is the p556xi. Bought my folder direct from Sig too. Love it. Bought it in December of 14 and not an issue with it yet. I bought a Houge grip, and it has a different muzzle brake and charging handle on it now. http://<a href=http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b572/stevetx77/IMG_3048_zpsf5d1zvk1.jpg</a>" /> That is sexy. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 11:50:22 AM EDT
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I've heard from a few people the 556R and 556xiR don't suppress well. not much suppresses well compared to an AR... however, I am sure its still a substantial improvement compared to no can. The gun does have a suppressor gas setting. |
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Posted: 7/22/2015 4:15:49 PM EDT
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But can you run a can on that without hitting the gas adjustment key? I have a XI and deciding whether to chop or just cancel the stamp. Was really planning on the conversion kits. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've done plenty. Ya sometime you have to tweak the gas ports, this is almost always needed whenever you remove so much barrel. Really if you can chop and rethread the barrel, working the gas port up in size is not a big deal. http://i59.tinypic.com/11wfwog.jpg Classic 556R I've had a long time. But can you run a can on that without hitting the gas adjustment key? I have a XI and deciding whether to chop or just cancel the stamp. Was really planning on the conversion kits. I have a 5.56mm Gas knob in mine. The 'adverse' setting is opened up a bit to make it run without the can, the regular setting is to keep it nice with the can. I built that gun long before the XI came about. I had to source soem 5.556 Patrol parts on gunbroker to build that one. |
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Posted: 7/27/2015 1:02:03 AM EDT
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Hi I have a p556xi that I sbr'd. It originally came with the sig brace and I was able to order the sig swiss style folding stock directly from Sig to add to it once my form 1 was approved. It literally took only a few minutes to switch from the sig brace to the stock without having to purchase a lower. I hope this helps. Can you describe to me how this works? I'm familiar with the non-xi 556es, and they have two styles of mounting stocks to the lower, one with an AR style tube, and one Swiss style for the folder. Looking on Gunbroker, all of the P556xi guns with aPSB look like the AR buffer tube style lower. How do you connect a folder to that? I'm assuming that you get a Swiss folding stock, and not a AR buffer tube type folder, like they use on some PSB guns. |
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Posted: 7/27/2015 12:22:59 PM EDT
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it was pretty easy to add the swiss style folding stock to the p556xi. My P556xi came with the non-folding sig brace. The hinge post was already on the lower. I used a punch and drove out the pin from the hinge post and the sig brace just slides out from the back of the lower. The swiss style stock came a little washer and replacement pin. Align the stock to the hinge and punch in the new pin. The great thing was that I didn't have to replace the lower. The same concept/prcess would work for the DDLES adapter as well if you wanted an AR style stock.
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Can you describe to me how this works? I'm familiar with the non-xi 556es, and they have two styles of mounting stocks to the lower, one with an AR style tube, and one Swiss style for the folder. Looking on Gunbroker, all of the P556xi guns with aPSB look like the AR buffer tube style lower. How do you connect a folder to that? I'm assuming that you get a Swiss folding stock, and not a AR buffer tube type folder, like they use on some PSB guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hi I have a p556xi that I sbr'd. It originally came with the sig brace and I was able to order the sig swiss style folding stock directly from Sig to add to it once my form 1 was approved. It literally took only a few minutes to switch from the sig brace to the stock without having to purchase a lower. I hope this helps. Can you describe to me how this works? I'm familiar with the non-xi 556es, and they have two styles of mounting stocks to the lower, one with an AR style tube, and one Swiss style for the folder. Looking on Gunbroker, all of the P556xi guns with aPSB look like the AR buffer tube style lower. How do you connect a folder to that? I'm assuming that you get a Swiss folding stock, and not a AR buffer tube type folder, like they use on some PSB guns. |
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Posted: 8/10/2015 6:18:08 PM EDT
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Stamp finally came in.
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Posted: 8/10/2015 6:43:10 PM EDT
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Nice....that's the "R" isn't it? I see that's a LaRue mount, what model?
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Posted: 8/10/2015 7:25:50 PM EDT
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Nice....that's the "R" isn't it? I see that's a LaRue mount, what model? Yes this is the 556xiR. Larue 152 aimpoint mount. The problem with the larue mounts is first you need to decide what side you want the CH on. The throw lever will hit your knuckles if it is on the same side of the CH or far enough forward to interfere with the CH. |
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Posted: 8/11/2015 12:07:25 PM EDT
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Since I'm left handed, the charging handle would be on the right side. All I would have to is turn the mount around.
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