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Posted: 2/5/2015 5:04:46 PM EDT
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Picked up the "kit" from Cabelas a few hours ago. It comes in a nice hard case with the 300 barrel installed. Also includes the 5.56 barrel, a nylon sling, magazine and a couple rails for the handguard. Unfortunately I had to scoot back to work so I don't have anything else to mention at this point. I'll dig into it further when I get home this evening if anyone has questions. Probably one of the first MCX's sold in Minnesota. Ha! Grats. My local store hasn't gotten them yet. Hopefully soon. 
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Posted: 2/5/2015 7:40:49 PM EDT
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Here ya go:
     I have no idea why links show instead of the photos... |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 7:54:27 PM EDT
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Here ya go: I have no idea why links show instead of the photos... That things awesome |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 7:55:55 PM EDT
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How difficult is it to swap out the barrel and op rod or whatever they call that?
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Posted: 2/5/2015 7:55:56 PM EDT
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Here ya go: I have no idea why links show instead of the photos... That things awesome +1 |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 8:02:15 PM EDT
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wow drooling right now
how much was it? |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 8:26:21 PM EDT
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Here ya go: I have no idea why links show instead of the photos... Sweet! 
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Posted: 2/5/2015 8:26:50 PM EDT
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Here ya go: ... I have no idea why links show instead of the photos... fixed it for ya 
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Posted: 2/5/2015 8:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How difficult is it to swap out the barrel and op rod or whatever they call that? Remove BCG. Pull the front takedown pin, slide handguard forward. Loosen the two T27 screws holding the barrel clamps, pull the barrel out. To change the op-rod the BCG has to be broken down to get the old rod off and new one on.
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Posted: 2/5/2015 8:29:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: fixed it for ya Quote HistoryQuoted: fixed it for ya What did I do wrong? Or is it because of my low post count? Thanks! |
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Posted: 2/5/2015 8:29:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wow drooling right now how much was it? $1899.99
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Posted: 2/5/2015 8:45:10 PM EDT
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Here it is broken down. The 300BLK op rod and barrel are on top and the assembled 5.56 BCG is below with its barrel.
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Posted: 2/5/2015 9:00:03 PM EDT
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fixed it for ya
What did I do wrong? Or is it because of my low post count? Thanks! Use the "img" links instead. Can't wait to find one of these for sale. Spent a while searching the local stores this afternoon to no avail. Most folks didn't even know what I was asking for.
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Posted: 2/5/2015 9:04:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Use the "img" links instead. Can't wait to find one of these for sale. Spent a while searching the local stores this afternoon to no avail. Most folks didn't even know what I was asking for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: fixed it for ya What did I do wrong? Or is it because of my low post count? Thanks! Use the "img" links instead. Can't wait to find one of these for sale. Spent a while searching the local stores this afternoon to no avail. Most folks didn't even know what I was asking for. No luck using the img link either. I've posted pics before so maybe the rules changed and I don't have enough posts. No idea. Tried different methods in the pic posting thread to keep from cluttering up this one but had no luck there either. Oh well. Back to MCX porn.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 3:15:55 AM EDT
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No luck using the img link either. I've posted pics before so maybe the rules changed and I don't have enough posts. No idea. Tried different methods in the pic posting thread to keep from cluttering up this one but had no luck there either. Oh well. Back to MCX porn. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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fixed it for ya
What did I do wrong? Or is it because of my low post count? Thanks! Use the "img" links instead. Can't wait to find one of these for sale. Spent a while searching the local stores this afternoon to no avail. Most folks didn't even know what I was asking for. No luck using the img link either. I've posted pics before so maybe the rules changed and I don't have enough posts. No idea. Tried different methods in the pic posting thread to keep from cluttering up this one but had no luck there either. Oh well. Back to MCX porn. I just went to the photobucket page, and grabbed the "direct" URL, and used the image link button to put direct image URL in. |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 3:30:02 AM EDT
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I don't think pics show up anymore if you have less than 50 posts.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 7:58:36 AM EDT
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I don't think pics show up anymore if you have less than 50 posts. His pictures showed up for me, but had an "Approve/Disapprove Images" question on it. Not sure if that's a Lifer power or something.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 9:20:45 AM EDT
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That gas system. Swappable op rod. UGH. UGGGHHHHH.
Shit. I'm gonna have to have one of these. Dammit. There's a devil on my shoulder that wants to put my SR-15 on the EE...
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Posted: 2/6/2015 11:44:09 AM EDT
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What mutt. Its like a AR-15 (lower), a AR-180 (recoil springs), a Daewoo K1A1 (wire stock), a Daewoo MaxII (long stroke - bolt carrier), SCAR (barrel change) and a ACR (handguard) all hooked up. I can't wait to adopt.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 1:26:39 PM EDT
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What mutt. Its like a AR-15 (lower), a AR-180 (recoil springs), a Daewoo K1A1 (wire stock), a Daewoo MaxII (long stroke - bolt carrier), SCAR (barrel change) and a ACR (handguard) all hooked up. I can't wait to adopt. It is a mutt but in a good way. As others have noted, the MCX isn't new technology but rather a combination of multiple ideas combined into one firearm. This really is what Magpul/Bushmaster came close to producing with the ACR but high prices, quality control problems and lack of replacement barrels have left the ACR wallowing in the mud. SIG could have just as easily created a new lower/magazine interface but they wisely chose to create a lower that's compatible/convertible. This leaves people in ban states, with Class III lowers and departments with tight budgets the option of using existing serialized items. |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 1:44:13 PM EDT
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It is a mutt but in a good way. As others have noted, the MCX isn't new technology but rather a combination of multiple ideas combined into one firearm. This really is what Magpul/Bushmaster came close to producing with the ACR but high prices, quality control problems and lack of replacement barrels have left the ACR wallowing in the mud. SIG could have just as easily created a new lower/magazine interface but they wisely chose to create a lower that's compatible/convertible. This leaves people in ban states, with Class III lowers and departments with tight budgets the option of using existing serialized items. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What mutt. Its like a AR-15 (lower), a AR-180 (recoil springs), a Daewoo K1A1 (wire stock), a Daewoo MaxII (long stroke - bolt carrier), SCAR (barrel change) and a ACR (handguard) all hooked up. I can't wait to adopt. It is a mutt but in a good way. As others have noted, the MCX isn't new technology but rather a combination of multiple ideas combined into one firearm. This really is what Magpul/Bushmaster came close to producing with the ACR but high prices, quality control problems and lack of replacement barrels have left the ACR wallowing in the mud. SIG could have just as easily created a new lower/magazine interface but they wisely chose to create a lower that's compatible/convertible. This leaves people in ban states, with Class III lowers and departments with tight budgets the option of using existing serialized items. That's what I characterized it as. It is everything the ACR should have been. I really like that they are making buffer tube threaded caps for AR lowers to use MCX stocks. http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140520-102936.jpg |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 2:38:30 PM EDT
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IceAuger, if you have a caliper, could I please trouble you to measure the OD of the barrel?
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Posted: 2/6/2015 2:45:56 PM EDT
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I'm looking forward to owning a short barreled upper for use on SBR lowers and my m16 lower. Sig seems to have done a very very good job with the MCX. Though I will wait to see how these perform before plunking down any cash.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 5:30:24 PM EDT
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It is only about 20 deg F but the sun was shining so I had to take the opportunity to go to the range and try out the MCX. I also had to zero the red dot on the Honey Badger so I figured I should take a group shot before hanging targets.
Sexy time   I think we may have a shooter, boys.  Right out of the gate to say I was surprised would be a severe understatement. First three shots out of the box running open sights at 50 yards and two holes on top of each other? Yep. I'll take that all day long. I was shooting 55gr AE ball ammo. Overall I probably ran around 150 rounds through it without a hiccup. |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 5:31:09 PM EDT
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...continued due to 2000 character limit. The one drawback is the trigger. It is a bear. After seeing those groups with that trigger I was shaking my head, but every shot was an exercise in concentration trying to find the break point so I think for the most part both me and the Sig did its job. After shooting the MCX for a bit I lined up the Honey Badger that I had built last year to zero the red dot and pulling the trigger on that Giessele SSA-E was like trying to catch a greased pig compared to the MCX. The shots just jumped out of the barrel with ease and the thought process switched to maintaining my trigger pull as to not let it break too quick. That HB is a treat to shoot and I smile every time that I do. I understand the MCX wasn't built for 3-gun matches, but man that trigger is a little rough around the edges. After shooting a few more times I'm sure I'll be swapping it out for something in between the factory trigger and the SSA-E to get a little more control and crispness. Overall I'm happy with it's first outing. Time to start thinking about what optic would fit well on "D-Generation mcX". |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 5:48:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IceAuger, if you have a caliper, could I please trouble you to measure the OD of the barrel? I appreciate it. Sorry, I don't. I have access to one but won't be able to get that info to you until Monday.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 6:46:18 PM EDT
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I think it's screaming for a 1-6x optic. Sig is getting ready to release their "Sig Optic Tango 6 1-6x24mm" which you can check out here
There's also the Primary Arms 1-6X ACSS (which I own) which is under $300. The ACSS illuminated reticle is amazing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
...continued due to 2000 character limit. The one drawback is the trigger. It is a bear. After seeing those groups with that trigger I was shaking my head, but every shot was an exercise in concentration trying to find the break point so I think for the most part both me and the Sig did its job. After shooting the MCX for a bit I lined up the Honey Badger that I had built last year to zero the red dot and pulling the trigger on that Giessele SSA-E was like trying to catch a greased pig compared to the MCX. The shots just jumped out of the barrel with ease and the thought process switched to maintaining my trigger pull as to not let it break too quick. That HB is a treat to shoot and I smile every time that I do. I understand the MCX wasn't built for 3-gun matches, but man that trigger is a little rough around the edges. After shooting a few more times I'm sure I'll be swapping it out for something in between the factory trigger and the SSA-E to get a little more control and crispness. Overall I'm happy with it's first outing. Time to start thinking about what optic would fit well on "D-Generation mcX". |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 7:31:59 PM EDT
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...continued due to 2000 character limit. The one drawback is the trigger. It is a bear. After seeing those groups with that trigger I was shaking my head, but every shot was an exercise in concentration trying to find the break point so I think for the most part both me and the Sig did its job. After shooting the MCX for a bit I lined up the Honey Badger that I had built last year to zero the red dot and pulling the trigger on that Giessele SSA-E was like trying to catch a greased pig compared to the MCX. The shots just jumped out of the barrel with ease and the thought process switched to maintaining my trigger pull as to not let it break too quick. That HB is a treat to shoot and I smile every time that I do. I understand the MCX wasn't built for 3-gun matches, but man that trigger is a little rough around the edges. After shooting a few more times I'm sure I'll be swapping it out for something in between the factory trigger and the SSA-E to get a little more control and crispness. Overall I'm happy with it's first outing. Time to start thinking about what optic would fit well on "D-Generation mcX". Since it takes AR trigger groups its easy to deal with. Sig factory triggers are atrocious. I've been wanting one of these since I tested some prototypes. I'm thinkingt a 10.5-11.5" SBR, SSA, T1, DBAL-I2 single spectrum, m600b, and a TAPS switch. 
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Posted: 2/6/2015 8:14:26 PM EDT
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So this just happened to one at work. Supposedly it happened while opening the stock. I wasn't there to witness I cannot say for sure.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 8:17:36 PM EDT
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So this just happened to one at work. Supposedly it happened while opening the stock. I wasn't there to witness I cannot say for sure. 
I hope that's clerk speak for "I dropped it on the concrete floor". |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 8:35:14 PM EDT
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So this just happened to one at work. Supposedly it happened while opening the stock. I wasn't there to witness I cannot say for sure. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/meestermurphy/media/4E6D5763-6C8C-4966-B375-A4D3DE02C352_zpsx4fmc9sg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/meestermurphy/4E6D5763-6C8C-4966-B375-A4D3DE02C352_zpsx4fmc9sg.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/meestermurphy/media/9BE5389E-17A6-4276-A5B5-511B46F108FD_zpsojmuszvn.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/meestermurphy/9BE5389E-17A6-4276-A5B5-511B46F108FD_zpsojmuszvn.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/meestermurphy/media/4F326C91-8FB2-4577-BA2C-6F4FCA0F5B9B_zpsnnexkfaf.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/meestermurphy/4F326C91-8FB2-4577-BA2C-6F4FCA0F5B9B_zpsnnexkfaf.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/meestermurphy/media/166C5FFE-0C0C-4896-882C-5BD30D7C44F7_zpsuegeebst.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/meestermurphy/166C5FFE-0C0C-4896-882C-5BD30D7C44F7_zpsuegeebst.jpg</a> 
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Posted: 2/6/2015 8:44:26 PM EDT
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and that is why I will not buy one, just one more ar15 clone from sig that doesn't come thru!!!! like the 556xi Russian , also where are the parts for the 556xi sig promised???
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So this just happened to one at work. Supposedly it happened while opening the stock. I wasn't there to witness I cannot say for sure. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/meestermurphy/media/4E6D5763-6C8C-4966-B375-A4D3DE02C352_zpsx4fmc9sg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/meestermurphy/4E6D5763-6C8C-4966-B375-A4D3DE02C352_zpsx4fmc9sg.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/meestermurphy/media/9BE5389E-17A6-4276-A5B5-511B46F108FD_zpsojmuszvn.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/meestermurphy/9BE5389E-17A6-4276-A5B5-511B46F108FD_zpsojmuszvn.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/meestermurphy/media/4F326C91-8FB2-4577-BA2C-6F4FCA0F5B9B_zpsnnexkfaf.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/meestermurphy/4F326C91-8FB2-4577-BA2C-6F4FCA0F5B9B_zpsnnexkfaf.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/meestermurphy/media/166C5FFE-0C0C-4896-882C-5BD30D7C44F7_zpsuegeebst.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/meestermurphy/166C5FFE-0C0C-4896-882C-5BD30D7C44F7_zpsuegeebst.jpg</a> |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 8:48:37 PM EDT
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I believe that's the new Sig Quick-Detach stock. In two weeks they're releasing the Quick-Attach version.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 8:52:16 PM EDT
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Just asked my coworker that broke it. He was pulling up on the stock to unlock it and fold it and if broke. I had him demonstrate on another one and it was pretty normal. I use my thumb to press on the folding block so that it bears part of the stress too.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 10:22:05 PM EDT
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Just asked my coworker that broke it. He was pulling up on the stock to unlock it and fold it and if broke. I had him demonstrate on another one and it was pretty normal. I use my thumb to press on the folding block so that it bears part of the stress too. Let's hope this was a fluke and not a design flaw. And let's hope the wire retractable stock fares better. |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 10:48:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I use my thumb to press on the folding block so that it bears part of the stress too. Yep. It does more than bear the stress, it helps lift the stock out of its retaining channel on the upper folding block so that it can swing away. Until that flat bar on the stock clears that channel it won't budge, and where that broke is exactly where it's going to break when someone who doesn't know what they're doing tries to forcibly fold the stock. I don't think a fall from a standing height would even break it there. That took some leverage in the wrong places. |
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Posted: 2/7/2015 12:12:05 AM EDT
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Yep. It does more than bear the stress, it helps lift the stock out of its retaining channel on the upper so that it can swing away. Until that flat bar on the stock clears that channel it won't budge, and where that broke is exactly where it's going to break when someone who doesn't know what they're doing tries to forcibly fold the stock. I don't think a fall from a standing height would even break it there. That took some leverage in the wrong places. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use my thumb to press on the folding block so that it bears part of the stress too. Yep. It does more than bear the stress, it helps lift the stock out of its retaining channel on the upper so that it can swing away. Until that flat bar on the stock clears that channel it won't budge, and where that broke is exactly where it's going to break when someone who doesn't know what they're doing tries to forcibly fold the stock. I don't think a fall from a standing height would even break it there. That took some leverage in the wrong places. QFT. |
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Posted: 2/7/2015 7:16:22 AM EDT
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I use my thumb to press on the folding block so that it bears part of the stress too. Yep. It does more than bear the stress, it helps lift the stock out of its retaining channel on the upper so that it can swing away. Until that flat bar on the stock clears that channel it won't budge, and where that broke is exactly where it's going to break when someone who doesn't know what they're doing tries to forcibly fold the stock. I don't think a fall from a standing height would even break it there. That took some leverage in the wrong places. QFT. Looks more like a horrible design combined with cheap metal to me. |
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Posted: 2/7/2015 3:32:27 PM EDT
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I believe that's the new Sig Quick-Detach stock. In two weeks they're releasing the Quick-Attach version. |
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Posted: 2/7/2015 3:53:31 PM EDT
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Looks more like a horrible design combined with cheap metal to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I use my thumb to press on the folding block so that it bears part of the stress too. Yep. It does more than bear the stress, it helps lift the stock out of its retaining channel on the upper so that it can swing away. Until that flat bar on the stock clears that channel it won't budge, and where that broke is exactly where it's going to break when someone who doesn't know what they're doing tries to forcibly fold the stock. I don't think a fall from a standing height would even break it there. That took some leverage in the wrong places. QFT. Looks more like a horrible design combined with cheap metal to me. It's a little of both but the former doesn't excuse the latter. It should not break. |
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Posted: 2/7/2015 4:03:58 PM EDT
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What is the stock made of? I assume it's aluminum. Maybe some type of reinforced polymer, like HK uses on the UMP, might prove to be a better choice.
If we do see more breakages, hopefully SIG will be quick to find a cure. |
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Posted: 2/7/2015 5:27:57 PM EDT
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What is the stock made of? I assume it's aluminum. Maybe some type of reinforced polymer, like HK uses on the UMP, might prove to be a better choice. If we do see more breakages, hopefully SIG will be quick to find a cure. Looks like that hinge plate changes out pretty easily, so at least it shouldn't need a whole new stock. |
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Posted: 2/7/2015 9:23:34 PM EDT
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Meh, that stock is ugly anyway. I'm sure Magpul will have a badass stock out for this rifle in a few months. If I had the cash, this broken stock would not stop me from buying this rifle.
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Posted: 2/8/2015 12:10:28 AM EDT
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Well that was short lived
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Posted: 2/8/2015 5:04:02 AM EDT
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So lets replace that hideous red jacket looking crap stock with...
Just some quick chop shopped images so don't worry about folded stock blocking ejection or anything yet. Final production versions will have left side folding stocks. 
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Posted: 2/8/2015 5:13:45 AM EDT
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Oh why not...
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Posted: 2/8/2015 9:53:01 AM EDT
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The second one looks pretty good
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So lets replace that hideous red jacket looking crap stock with... Just some quick chop shopped images so don't worry about folded stock blocking ejection or anything yet. Final production versions will have left side folding stocks. http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/Doug_262/Chopped%20n%20Shopped/MCX%20Stock%20Chopped.jpg http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/Doug_262/Chopped%20n%20Shopped/MCX%20Replaced%20Crap%20Stock%201.jpg |
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Posted: 2/8/2015 10:00:07 AM EDT
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So lets replace that hideous red jacket looking crap stock with... Just some quick chop shopped images so don't worry about folded stock blocking ejection or anything yet. Final production versions will have left side folding stocks. http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/Doug_262/Chopped%20n%20Shopped/MCX%20Stock%20Chopped.jpg http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/Doug_262/Chopped%20n%20Shopped/MCX%20Replaced%20Crap%20Stock%201.jpg I could go for the ACR stock. I was planning on putting a UCIW on my MCX when the stamp gets back(when I can actually get my hands on an MCX)
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Posted: 2/8/2015 10:15:44 AM EDT
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Having used the ACR stock extensively (have been an ACR owner for over four years) I wouldn't want it on another rifle.
The stock seems durable and rugged but it really isn't very comfortable. My main complaint is that when the stock is extended the back half of the stock is open with a wide trench running down the center. This makes shooting from unconventional positions fairly uncomfortable and doesn't aid in getting a repeatable cheek weld. |
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Posted: 2/8/2015 10:18:45 AM EDT
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The MCX is AR looking enough that an AR stock doesn't out of place. I actually think it looks sexiest with an MFT minimalist.I really don't like the current folding or MP5 retractable type stock on it.
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