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How is cheek weld without the hideous chek riser? It's the only thing I don't like about these guns.
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For the height of the mini acog the cheek riser is perfect, for the low tr-24 no cheek weld riser needed... Also kind of need the riser for the flip up sights
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Nice!!!
I don't suppose you have a set of calipers do you? If so, would you mind measuring the barrel at the two fattest spots? Just behind the birdcage and just in front of the hand guard. I'm curious how close they are in size. |
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How is cheek weld without the hideous chek riser? It's the only thing I don't like about these guns. View Quote You only need the riser if using AR height sights/optics. If you go with the Troy micro sights, or low mount the optic directly to the rail (no QD mount) then there is no need for the riser. That's what I did. My xi is now wearing a Vortex 1-4 Viper in medium height 30mm rings. |
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I am really liking what I'm seeing with this. I have been AK-less for a couple years and have been looking for another one for a while, but now I'm leaning heavily toward one of these to fill that role. The only thing I don't like about it is how short the handguards are -- the older models were just right on that. I realize they had to do it to work with the 10" barrel... there is no getting around it if you're going to have a monolithic upper with interchangeable barrels, just like the SCAR. As far as the cheek riser goes, yeah it's ugly, but I'll take ugly over shitty cheek weld any day. The ability to comfortably use AR-height sights and optics is a huge plus, as is the ability to run a left-side charging handle. I wonder if they would ever make a 5.45x39 conversion for it?
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Thursday evening I was able to run 120 rounds of wolf polyformance through 3 different mags, and I can report zero malfunctions! I will repeat that it ran flawlessly! I was nervous after seeing the you tube videos that were posted in another thread. Basically, it was a sight in at 25 yards indoors and then a couple of medium rate of fire mag dumps...love this rifle..... But I think I'm going to switch out the muzzle device to a brake.
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Thursday evening I was able to run 120 rounds of wolf polyformance through 3 different mags, and I can report zero malfunctions! I will repeat that it ran flawlessly! I was nervous after seeing the you tube videos that were posted in another thread. Basically, it was a sight in at 25 yards indoors and then a couple of medium rate of fire mag dumps...love this rifle..... But I think I'm going to switch out the muzzle device to a brake. View Quote Good to hear. Thanks for the report! |
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Looks like I will be ordering next week http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/sig-sauer-sig556xi-russian-detail.html?Itemid=0 |
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I finally got to see one in person at a gun show today. They were asking too much for it, IMO. But I have to say, I am not that impressed with the build. It just doesn't seem to be up to par... IMO. I'm probably still gonna get one. I'm just not in that much of a rush. Esp. after seeing the IWI announcement for the Galil Ace. And I may just get a 556Russian Swat instead of XI... I'm not sure what I'm gonna do now.
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Hansel, try gunbroker, I was able to pick mine up with shipping and transfer for a total of 1235!
Also,wanted to make a note that I used it as left hand side charger for the break in and came close once to whacking my hand when placing my grip with thumb up right in front of/ on the magwell |
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I finally got to see one in person at a gun show today. They were asking too much for it, IMO. But I have to say, I am not that impressed with the build. It just doesn't seem to be up to par... IMO. I'm probably still gonna get one. I'm just not in that much of a rush. Esp. after seeing the IWI announcement for the Galil Ace. And I may just get a 556Russian Swat instead of XI... I'm not sure what I'm gonna do now. View Quote If the Galil Ace can suppress well I'd rather go with it. Otherwise I'll grab the Sig. |
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If the Galil Ace can suppress well I'd rather go with it. Otherwise I'll grab the Sig. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I finally got to see one in person at a gun show today. They were asking too much for it, IMO. But I have to say, I am not that impressed with the build. It just doesn't seem to be up to par... IMO. I'm probably still gonna get one. I'm just not in that much of a rush. Esp. after seeing the IWI announcement for the Galil Ace. And I may just get a 556Russian Swat instead of XI... I'm not sure what I'm gonna do now. If the Galil Ace can suppress well I'd rather go with it. Otherwise I'll grab the Sig. I'm gonna get an ACE pistol. I think it'll be out before the 556xiR pistol will be. |
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I'm gonna get an ACE pistol. I think it'll be out before the 556xiR pistol will be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I finally got to see one in person at a gun show today. They were asking too much for it, IMO. But I have to say, I am not that impressed with the build. It just doesn't seem to be up to par... IMO. I'm probably still gonna get one. I'm just not in that much of a rush. Esp. after seeing the IWI announcement for the Galil Ace. And I may just get a 556Russian Swat instead of XI... I'm not sure what I'm gonna do now. If the Galil Ace can suppress well I'd rather go with it. Otherwise I'll grab the Sig. I'm gonna get an ACE pistol. I think it'll be out before the 556xiR pistol will be. Pistol is already out, not in large numbers... but that will change real soon. |
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Here's my xi with Vortex Viper 1-4x. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/jerrellwise/media/Gun%20Pics/459E815E-5C8A-48E8-A93C-7D879C1C55BC_zpswjldlw3a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/jerrellwise/Gun%20Pics/459E815E-5C8A-48E8-A93C-7D879C1C55BC_zpswjldlw3a.jpg</a> <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/jerrellwise/media/Gun%20Pics/E8CCED53-339D-4F5C-A0D4-05BD8EDE5030_zpsn3y4knfl.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/jerrellwise/Gun%20Pics/E8CCED53-339D-4F5C-A0D4-05BD8EDE5030_zpsn3y4knfl.jpg</a> View Quote Looks good, I just got a Leatherwood Hi-Lux 1-4x24mm CMR-AK762 to mount on my up and coming 556XI Russian pistol or rifle. I guess low rings are good for a riser-less stock then? |
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Looks good, I just got a Leatherwood Hi-Lux 1-4x24mm CMR-AK762 to mount on my up and coming 556XI Russian pistol or rifle. I guess low rings are good for a riser-less stock then? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here's my xi with Vortex Viper 1-4x. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/jerrellwise/media/Gun%20Pics/459E815E-5C8A-48E8-A93C-7D879C1C55BC_zpswjldlw3a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/jerrellwise/Gun%20Pics/459E815E-5C8A-48E8-A93C-7D879C1C55BC_zpswjldlw3a.jpg</a> <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/jerrellwise/media/Gun%20Pics/E8CCED53-339D-4F5C-A0D4-05BD8EDE5030_zpsn3y4knfl.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/jerrellwise/Gun%20Pics/E8CCED53-339D-4F5C-A0D4-05BD8EDE5030_zpsn3y4knfl.jpg</a> Looks good, I just got a Leatherwood Hi-Lux 1-4x24mm CMR-AK762 to mount on my up and coming 556XI Russian pistol or rifle. I guess low rings are good for a riser-less stock then? Yup good to go with low rings |
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What ammo were you using? My first outing with old 80's Norinco ammo was a disaster with multiple short strokes, a stuck case, and a couple of double feeds. The second and third outing with modern Red Army and TulAmmo went a lot better with one short stroke on the second and none on the third. My experience is that it doesn't like the old stuff. Also, some of the ejections seemed a bit lethargic.
Also, is your piston head pretty tight in the gas valve? On my 5.56mm xi and 556s, I can swap gas positions with little resistance, but on the 7.62x39, it's tough to turn, even when clean and lubed. Even with the gun disassembled, the 7.62 piston seems tighter when moved in and out of the gas valve. Not sure if that means anything. On one hand, a tighter fit means less leakage around the piston, but if it's too tight, I can see some of the motive force being used to overcome the drag. |
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Wow, I guess I got lucky with my first 120 rounds of wolf! I've got some old norinco ammo I'll have to try out soon.
Also, I did break the gun down and oil the crap out of it before shooting it the first time, dunno if that matters. |
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Wow, I guess I got lucky with my first 120 rounds of wolf! I've got some old norinco ammo I'll have to try out soon. Also, I did break the gun down and oil the crap out of it before shooting it the first time, dunno if that matters. View Quote My rifle had plenty of lube in it (Sig grease and some of my oil) the mixing of the grease and oil may have been part of the problem. I generally don't run grease in my firearms, I use a good synthetic gun oil. http://www.brownells.com/gun-cleaning-chemicals/oils-lubricants/lubricant-protectant-oils/m-pro-7-gun-oil-lpx-prod31895.aspx HDH. |
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I only used one Magpul magazine. I will clean and relube and try it again with steel mags.
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Wow, I guess I got lucky with my first 120 rounds of wolf! I've got some old norinco ammo I'll have to try out soon. Also, I did break the gun down and oil the crap out of it before shooting it the first time, dunno if that matters. View Quote Be interested to hear how yours goes with old Norinco ammo. Caused a lot of problems, including a case stuck in the chamber, and it was hard stuck because the extractor ripped a chunk of the rim off. I had cleaned and relubed mine before first outing, so that wasn't the problem. |
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This is very disappointing. I own a 556r and it has been utterly flawless for over 1k rounds. I was really hoping to get an XI russian for christmas but if they have issues I may just get an MPX if they are around
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Seriously considering one of these as a Christmas present to myself. Gonna wait on a few more reviews to make sure they aren't problem children.
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This is very disappointing. I own a 556r and it has been utterly flawless for over 1k rounds. I was really hoping to get an XI russian for christmas but if they have issues I may just get an MPX if they are around View Quote +1 - My 556R gen 2 has also been flawless with every brand I've put in it - 1000+ rounds. |
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This is very disappointing. I own a 556r and it has been utterly flawless for over 1k rounds. I was really hoping to get an XI russian for christmas but if they have issues I may just get an MPX if they are around View Quote +1 - My 556R gen 2 has also been flawless with every brand I've put in it - 1000+ rounds. |
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I fully disassembled my rifle a few times getting to know it before shooting it. I left the factory grease in place, as I typically run my ARs with grease, not oil. Tonight I tore it back down to clean it up, and I realized I must have reassembled the piston incorrectly, as it was so tight I had to use a tool to help me take it apart. It went back together correctly and now turns without need for a tool. It seems the rifle wasn't put together correctly when I was shooting it. So, I don't think my experience was a valid assessment of the rifle. I believe quite a bit of user error was at play. |
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There are three gas settings on the rifle correct? Adverse, normal and suppressed? Have you guys having malfunctions made sure you were on the correct gas setting? Just a thought.
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Full disclosure: I fully disassembled my rifle a few times getting to know it before shooting it. I left the factory grease in place, as I typically run my ARs with grease, not oil. Tonight I tore it back down to clean it up, and I realized I must have reassembled the piston incorrectly, as it was so tight I had to use a tool to help me take it apart. It went back together correctly and now turns without need for a tool. It seems the rifle wasn't put together correctly when I was shooting it. So, I don't think my experience was a valid assessment of the rifle. I believe quite a bit of user error was at play. View Quote How can you put the piston together wrong? One end is attached to the bolt carrier by the charging handle and the other end just goes in the gas plug. Or do you mean that the gas valve was turned to some strange intermediate position? |
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How can you put the piston together wrong? One end is attached to the bolt carrier by the charging handle and the other end just goes in the gas plug. Or do you mean that the gas valve was turned to some strange intermediate position? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Full disclosure: I fully disassembled my rifle a few times getting to know it before shooting it. I left the factory grease in place, as I typically run my ARs with grease, not oil. Tonight I tore it back down to clean it up, and I realized I must have reassembled the piston incorrectly, as it was so tight I had to use a tool to help me take it apart. It went back together correctly and now turns without need for a tool. It seems the rifle wasn't put together correctly when I was shooting it. So, I don't think my experience was a valid assessment of the rifle. I believe quite a bit of user error was at play. How can you put the piston together wrong? One end is attached to the bolt carrier by the charging handle and the other end just goes in the gas plug. Or do you mean that the gas valve was turned to some strange intermediate position? As I stated, the gas valve was so hard to turn, I had to use a tool. I thought it was because it was dirty, but that would be a terrible design flaw if shooting 80 rounds of ammo gummed up the works so badly it couldn't be disassembled. When I was re-assembling the rifle last night, I dropped the piston assembly in the tube, and tried to install the plug. It was pretty tight. I was able to use a tool to install it like this, but thought that this couldn't be right. It was one thing for the valve to be tight when dirty, but I just cleaned it. So I took the plug back out and I fiddled with the piston a bit and it dropped maybe 1mm further in, which allowed the plug to be installed easily. I am certain that I had the plug/piston installed incorrectly when I was out at the range. |
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There are three gas settings on the rifle correct? Adverse, normal and suppressed? Have you guys having malfunctions made sure you were on the correct gas setting? Just a thought. View Quote I ran the Si-R in Normal and Adverse, no change.(FTF) The suppressed setting is for a suppressor correct? I do own a Sig556 that I purchased around 5 years ago. Never had any problem with that rifle, so I think I know what I'm doing.( I hope lol) Talked with SIG today and they sent me a prepaid label to send back. I will post when I get it back after testing. HDH. |
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As I stated, the gas valve was so hard to turn, I had to use a tool. I thought it was because it was dirty, but that would be a terrible design flaw if shooting 80 rounds of ammo gummed up the works so badly it couldn't be disassembled. When I was re-assembling the rifle last night, I dropped the piston assembly in the tube, and tried to install the plug. It was pretty tight. I was able to use a tool to install it like this, but thought that this couldn't be right. It was one thing for the valve to be tight when dirty, but I just cleaned it. So I took the plug back out and I fiddled with the piston a bit and it dropped maybe 1mm further in, which allowed the plug to be installed easily. I am certain that I had the plug/piston installed incorrectly when I was out at the range. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Full disclosure: I fully disassembled my rifle a few times getting to know it before shooting it. I left the factory grease in place, as I typically run my ARs with grease, not oil. Tonight I tore it back down to clean it up, and I realized I must have reassembled the piston incorrectly, as it was so tight I had to use a tool to help me take it apart. It went back together correctly and now turns without need for a tool. It seems the rifle wasn't put together correctly when I was shooting it. So, I don't think my experience was a valid assessment of the rifle. I believe quite a bit of user error was at play. How can you put the piston together wrong? One end is attached to the bolt carrier by the charging handle and the other end just goes in the gas plug. Or do you mean that the gas valve was turned to some strange intermediate position? As I stated, the gas valve was so hard to turn, I had to use a tool. I thought it was because it was dirty, but that would be a terrible design flaw if shooting 80 rounds of ammo gummed up the works so badly it couldn't be disassembled. When I was re-assembling the rifle last night, I dropped the piston assembly in the tube, and tried to install the plug. It was pretty tight. I was able to use a tool to install it like this, but thought that this couldn't be right. It was one thing for the valve to be tight when dirty, but I just cleaned it. So I took the plug back out and I fiddled with the piston a bit and it dropped maybe 1mm further in, which allowed the plug to be installed easily. I am certain that I had the plug/piston installed incorrectly when I was out at the range. With the piston and gas valve both out of the gun, is the piston a snug fit in the gas valve? Mine is. In any case, it still doesn't make sense that what you describe is the problem. When you drop the piston back in the gas tube, it might not go all the way back and the gas valve might have some trouble going in, but once you lock the piston to the bolt carrier with the charging handle, the position of the piston in the valve is set, regardless of how it was during assembly. |
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I ran the Si-R in Normal and Adverse, no change.(FTF) The suppressed setting is for a suppressor correct? I do own a Sig556 that I purchased around 5 years ago. Never had any problem with that rifle, so I think I know what I'm doing.( I hope lol) Talked with SIG today and they sent me a prepaid label to send back. I will post when I get it back after testing. HDH. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are three gas settings on the rifle correct? Adverse, normal and suppressed? Have you guys having malfunctions made sure you were on the correct gas setting? Just a thought. I ran the Si-R in Normal and Adverse, no change.(FTF) The suppressed setting is for a suppressor correct? I do own a Sig556 that I purchased around 5 years ago. Never had any problem with that rifle, so I think I know what I'm doing.( I hope lol) Talked with SIG today and they sent me a prepaid label to send back. I will post when I get it back after testing. HDH. Yup. Looks like this may be a repeat of the Gen I 556r fiasco. I haven't seen a range report without at least one failure. |
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Yup. Looks like this may be a repeat of the Gen I 556r fiasco. I haven't seen a range report without at least one failure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There are three gas settings on the rifle correct? Adverse, normal and suppressed? Have you guys having malfunctions made sure you were on the correct gas setting? Just a thought. I ran the Si-R in Normal and Adverse, no change.(FTF) The suppressed setting is for a suppressor correct? I do own a Sig556 that I purchased around 5 years ago. Never had any problem with that rifle, so I think I know what I'm doing.( I hope lol) Talked with SIG today and they sent me a prepaid label to send back. I will post when I get it back after testing. HDH. Yup. Looks like this may be a repeat of the Gen I 556r fiasco. I haven't seen a range report without at least one failure. LOL Sig 556xi russian gen2...hulluva name. |
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I plan to thoroughly degrease mine, relube with oil, and take it out for a function test.
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Yup. Looks like this may be a repeat of the Gen I 556r fiasco. I haven't seen a range report without at least one failure. View Quote http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2014/10/the-sig-556r-xi-the-ultimate-762x39.html#.VGIHuBZN_YY |
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It is very possible that the gas tube, or gas piston is out of spec. My 556xi had problems with the gas tube after 80 rounds that completely seized up the gun and chewed up the op rod. I sent it back to SIG and they replaced the gas tube and polished the op rod and it ran flawlessly for over 400 rounds now.
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