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Posted: 8/31/2014 12:57:18 AM EDT

My newest fun gun. Has the barrel extension on it until my form 1 is cleared (filed last Thursday).
Swiss made Sig 551-2 SP with 14" barrel + extension.
Gun has some finish wear on it but I got it for a good price and I have
been kicking my self for 24 years for not buying one of the original
import ones back in the day.
Question about the scope rail. Does anyone know if a B&T rail will allow you to co-witness in the bottom 1/3 of a T-1 mounted on it? The rail that came with this gun will not allow you to use the iron sights with the optic mounted.
Also does anyone know where you can find original SAN SIG furniture?
Pic for those wondering:

Posted: 8/31/2014 3:12:03 AM EDT

[#1]

I don't think ANY of the mounts will go low enough to let you co witness.

As for the stock, CO gun sales does not seem to offer SIG stuff anymore... The only other option I know about, would be ordering from Switzerland. Because its over $100, you will have to apply for an import permit though.

Posted: 8/31/2014 1:22:13 PM EDT

[#2]

What makes you think the furniture isn't Swiss?

Posted: 8/31/2014 1:41:49 PM EDT

[#3]

The best place to get original Sig SAN furniture is from gunfactory.ch in Zurich. Email them and ask for Rolf, he speaks perfect english and will help you with what you need. They have nearly everything you could want, they accept paypal and they ship to the US. I've ordered lots of furniture and other parts from them in the past.

The only caveat is that it is EXPENSIVE... but since you already own a real Sig SAN rifle you should be familiar with that.

As for the rail heights you may want to ask them, they would know the answer.

Posted: 8/31/2014 1:49:27 PM EDT

[#4]

I've been shooting my SG552 with a B&T rail for a couple years now.
It's like a lower 1/4 cowitness with a T1 on the factory low mount.

It works best with the open sight notch.
I want to say that it's difficult to use with the peep sight positions due to being near the lower edge of the T1 window, but I'll need to check that and get back to you.
(It might be a couple days before I have a chance).

Here's an older photo I took for someone with a similar question:

ETA:
I'll get you some rail height measurements when I get the thing out.

Posted: 8/31/2014 2:22:04 PM EDT

[#5]

Looking at the Swiss Gunfactory website and using Google translate it seems they do have a rail made specifically to co-witness with the T-1.

If I am going to place an order over there I will buy a lot of stuff I guess since I will not want to do a Form 6 again.

I'm thinking all green furniture on mine.

Thanks for the help guys.

Posted: 8/31/2014 8:04:56 PM EDT

[#6]

Mike Otte of Michael's Machines has Swiss scope rails.

Posted: 8/31/2014 10:46:29 PM EDT

[#7]

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My newest fun gun. Has the barrel extension on it until my form 1 is cleared (filed last Thursday).

Swiss made Sig 551-2 SP with 14" barrel + extension.

Gun has some finish wear on it but I got it for a good price and I have been kicking my self for 24 years for not buying one of the original import ones back in the day.

Question about the scope rail. Does anyone know if a B&T rail will allow you to co-witness in the bottom 1/3 of a T-1 mounted on it? The rail that came with this gun will not allow you to use the iron sights with the optic mounted.

Also does anyone know where you can find original SAN SIG furniture?

Pic for those wondering:

http://home.comcast.net/~sfischer397/pictures/sig-551/sig551-1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~sfischer397/pictures/sig-551/sig551-3.jpg

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Who do we hate? THE OP!
Why do we hate? Pure JEALOUSY!

Seriously, beautiful firearm! Congrats!

Posted: 9/3/2014 6:59:16 PM EDT

[#8]

may I ask what you paid? you said a good deal, I want one but I am not sure what a good deal is on a 551 these days?

Posted: 9/3/2014 7:04:01 PM EDT

[#9]

Gunbroker gives a pretty decent overview.

Posted: 9/3/2014 7:11:04 PM EDT

[#10]

So 6K?

Posted: 9/3/2014 7:21:26 PM EDT

[#11]

Well, the 553 is between $3-4k most places. While a 550 can $10k +.

The recent LEO/imported 552s were around $6k last I looked

Posted: 9/3/2014 10:24:22 PM EDT

[#12]

I just measured mine.

The B&T rail is about 0.55" from the top surface down to the top of the receiver.
It's about 0.025" from the top of the rail down to the flat surface just forward of the windage screw.
I free handed these with my calipers, so there's a bit of error there, but it should give you an idea of where the rail sits.

As far as co-witnessing, I'm going to stick with my lower 1/4 cowitness description.
The open position is good to get a clear view over the sights and through the dot, and the night sights are visible, but when I try to use the notch, I tend to lose the rear sight against the T1 body.
It may be easier with the green finish on your 551, or maybe if the T1 was painted (or something to give you contrast).

The peep positions are usable, but you lose some of the peep's field of view to the curvature of the bottom edge of the T1 window, and that slanted portion in the lower right of the T1 is visible through the peep.

YMMV, of course.

Posted: 9/3/2014 10:34:48 PM EDT

[#13]

I paid $4,250 but it only came with one magazine and the rail mount. The best other price I could find was $5,900 on GB.

So far $4,250 for the gun + $200 tax stamp + $220 for mags + $375 for the Aimpoint T-1 (smoking deal NIB I got on special about 2 years ago and have not had a gun I wanted to use with it). I figure I'll spend another $1K on goodies from Switzerland and that should finish it at $6,045 just over my planned limit of $6K though it is with many more goodies than I planned on.

I know, that will increase the hate.

Posted: 9/3/2014 10:38:18 PM EDT

[#14]

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I just measured mine.

The B&T rail is about 0.55" from the top surface down to the top of the receiver.

It's about 0.025" from the top of the rail down to the flat surface just forward of the windage screw.

I free handed these with my calipers, so there's a bit of error there, but it should give you an idea of where the rail sits.

As far as co-witnessing, I'm going to stick with my lower 1/4 cowitness description.

The open position is good to get a clear view over the sights and through the dot, and the night sights are visible, but when I try to use the notch, I tend to lose the rear sight against the T1 body.

It may be easier with the green finish on your 551, or maybe if the T1 was painted (or something to give you contrast).

The peep positions are usable, but you lose some of the peep's field of view to the curvature of the bottom edge of the T1 window, and that slanted portion in the lower right of the T1 is visible through the peep.

YMMV, of course.

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Thanks, I think I am going to import the rail in my post above when I buy the green furniture and other misc. goodies from the land of chocolate and cuckoo clocks.

Posted: 9/3/2014 10:57:27 PM EDT

[#15]

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Thanks, I think I am going to import the rail in my post above when I buy the green furniture and other misc. goodies from the land of chocolate and cuckoo clocks.

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I just measured mine.

The B&T rail is about 0.55" from the top surface down to the top of the receiver.
It's about 0.025" from the top of the rail down to the flat surface just forward of the windage screw.
I free handed these with my calipers, so there's a bit of error there, but it should give you an idea of where the rail sits.

As far as co-witnessing, I'm going to stick with my lower 1/4 cowitness description.
The open position is good to get a clear view over the sights and through the dot, and the night sights are visible, but when I try to use the notch, I tend to lose the rear sight against the T1 body.
It may be easier with the green finish on your 551, or maybe if the T1 was painted (or something to give you contrast).

The peep positions are usable, but you lose some of the peep's field of view to the curvature of the bottom edge of the T1 window, and that slanted portion in the lower right of the T1 is visible through the peep.

YMMV, of course.

Thanks, I think I am going to import the rail in my post above when I buy the green furniture and other misc. goodies from the land of chocolate and cuckoo clocks.

I believe that rail has a set screw that is tightened against the front trunion dovetail. What would be very interesting is to have a machinist cut a direct T1 interface into a B&T rail, doing so at a height that allows for proper co-witness.

Posted: 9/4/2014 9:38:35 AM EDT

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I paid $4,250 but it only came with one magazine and the rail mount. The best other price I could find was $5,900 on GB.

So far $4,250 for the gun + $200 tax stamp + $220 for mags + $375 for the Aimpoint T-1 (smoking deal NIB I got on special about 2 years ago and have not had a gun I wanted to use with it). I figure I'll spend another $1K on goodies from Switzerland and that should finish it at $6,045 just over my planned limit of $6K though it is with many more goodies than I planned on.

I know, that will increase the hate.

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That is a smoking hot deal, I traded for one I had, the trade value was right around $6500!

Posted: 10/1/2014 7:18:59 AM EDT

[#17]

Got my form 1 back yesterday. Time to engrave and dremel that damn barrel extension off.

Posted: 10/1/2014 9:10:07 AM EDT

[#18]

I have a line on Swiss furniture. Also can get any SAN/ Swiss parts you need. Email - [email protected] remember that we are talking about SIG Sauer / SAN / Swiss Arms-- realize that parts are not cheap, and they sell fast.

Posted: 10/3/2014 10:02:57 AM EDT

[#19]

I know that a lot of you are looking for these parts, and that you are hoping that I may have them in stock. I wish that I had that bankroll to do that. I have a contact that imports the parts. PLEASE, email me with a list of what you are looking to PURCHASE, and I will get you a quote for pricing and delivery time. These parts are hard enough to get in Europe, let alone here in the USA. Some things will be 4-6 months wait. The cost of importing are not cheap, and I will not be importing 1 or 2 parts at a time. I will have to have a substantial order from at least 4-6 customers to justify an order. I will not bother my contact with small orders. With that said, feel free to EMAIL me with a list of what you definitely what ordered and I will get back to you as soon as possible. It may take 5-10 days to get quotes, so please be patient.

Jim

Posted: 10/3/2014 2:02:13 PM EDT

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Got my form 1 back yesterday. Time to engrave and dremel that damn barrel extension off.

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Please take photos during the process, I'm curious about how that extension works and was installed. THANKS and nice rifle!

Posted: 10/20/2014 4:28:10 PM EDT

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Please take photos during the process, I'm curious about how that extension works and was installed. THANKS and nice rifle!

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Got my form 1 back yesterday. Time to engrave and dremel that damn barrel extension off.

Please take photos during the process, I'm curious about how that extension works and was installed. THANKS and nice rifle!

Posted: 10/25/2014 6:04:15 PM EDT

[#22]

Awesome, thank you!

PS- You take very good photos. The lighting and close-up detail... Fantastic. I wish more members here took pics as good as you.

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