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Just spoke to sig, yes a 10mm will be made and shipped 2 weeks after SHOT show announcement. They are also working to develop a .50, called the MPXtreme. Stupid stuff like this belongs in GD. In tech, someone might actually be inclined to believe you. Hate to say it, but it made me pause for a few seconds. |
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Just spoke to sig, yes a 10mm will be made and shipped 2 weeks after SHOT show announcement. They are also working to develop a .50, called the MPXtreme. Stupid stuff like this belongs in GD. In tech, someone might actually be inclined to believe you. If that is the case there is plenty in this thread. So we could nuke it or keep it for a place to converse. A while back there were 4-5 threads or more running and everything in them were just speculation. I am glad they are getting closer to shipping but most everything in here is still just a bunch of speculation. |
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Just spoke to sig, yes a 10mm will be made and shipped 2 weeks after SHOT show announcement. They are also working to develop a .50, called the MPXtreme. Stupid stuff like this belongs in GD. In tech, someone might actually be inclined to believe you. you clearly have not read this entire thread. Lighten up francis, 2 weeks ok! |
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Just spoke to sig, yes a 10mm will be made and shipped 2 weeks after SHOT show announcement. They are also working to develop a .50, called the MPXtreme. Stupid stuff like this belongs in GD. In tech, someone might actually be inclined to believe you. you clearly have not read this entire thread. Lighten up francis, 2 weeks ok! |
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Just spoke to sig, yes a 10mm will be made and shipped 2 weeks after SHOT show announcement. They are also working to develop a .50, called the MPXtreme. Stupid stuff like this belongs in GD. In tech, someone might actually be inclined to believe you. you clearly have not read this entire thread. Lighten up francis, 2 weeks ok! |
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Just spoke to sig, yes a 10mm will be made and shipped 2 weeks after SHOT show announcement. They are also working to develop a .50, called the MPXtreme. Stupid stuff like this belongs in GD. In tech, someone might actually be inclined to believe you. you clearly have not read this entire thread. Lighten up francis, 2 weeks ok! Have you read the whole thread?? |
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What type of optics/upgrades are you guys going with? So far im thinking a Trijicon RMR RM05G mounted on a Low-Pro mount from AMS Machine and a Geissele Super Tricon trigger. Still not sure if a Battle Arms Dev. Safety Selector will fit.
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Just spoke to sig, yes a 10mm will be made and shipped 2 weeks after SHOT show announcement. They are also working to develop a .50, called the MPXtreme. Stupid stuff like this belongs in GD. In tech, someone might actually be inclined to believe you. you clearly have not read this entire thread. Lighten up francis, 2 weeks ok! Have you read the whole thread?? I have. And I've posted in it several times as well. And the "two weeks" thing is stupid, over played, and unoriginal as fuck. Even stupider though, is deliberate misinformation in a tech thread. i.e. "I spoke to Sig and..." when it never occurred. There are a lot of folks who aren't as up to date as the regulars who come to these forums looking for real information. They see that, and could be inclined to believe it. |
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Why don't you ask my range master for my police dept and my US Army reserve unit and see what they say. How the fuck would you know what my police dept policy is and isn't? Most departments even my old LAPD will not allow after market triggers for liability and court problems if you ever have to smoke someone. The defense immediately makes you out to be a killer with all these super duper fancy gun parts. Think before you make these stupid comments like I am lying or something, I should know, I work there you don't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Thats BS. Generally the only trigger upgrade you can do in mil/le is Giessele. Anyone who would opt out is retarded. Why don't you ask my range master for my police dept and my US Army reserve unit and see what they say. How the fuck would you know what my police dept policy is and isn't? Most departments even my old LAPD will not allow after market triggers for liability and court problems if you ever have to smoke someone. The defense immediately makes you out to be a killer with all these super duper fancy gun parts. Think before you make these stupid comments like I am lying or something, I should know, I work there you don't. Sounds like a shitty department to work for. All my buddies who are cops have their department guns tricked out. Giessele and all, but I guess were not as tight assed with guns in this part of the country. Happy Vets day!!! |
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Sounds like a shitty department to work for. All my buddies who are cops have their department guns tricked out. Giessele and all, but I guess were not as tight assed with guns in this part of the country. Happy Vets day!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Thats BS. Generally the only trigger upgrade you can do in mil/le is Giessele. Anyone who would opt out is retarded. Why don't you ask my range master for my police dept and my US Army reserve unit and see what they say. How the fuck would you know what my police dept policy is and isn't? Most departments even my old LAPD will not allow after market triggers for liability and court problems if you ever have to smoke someone. The defense immediately makes you out to be a killer with all these super duper fancy gun parts. Think before you make these stupid comments like I am lying or something, I should know, I work there you don't. Sounds like a shitty department to work for. All my buddies who are cops have their department guns tricked out. Giessele and all, but I guess were not as tight assed with guns in this part of the country. Happy Vets day!!! my USMS friend is rocking a SAI glock with a RMR. |
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Thats BS. Generally the only trigger upgrade you can do in mil/le is Giessele. Anyone who would opt out is retarded. Why don't you ask my range master for my police dept and my US Army reserve unit and see what they say. How the fuck would you know what my police dept policy is and isn't? Most departments even my old LAPD will not allow after market triggers for liability and court problems if you ever have to smoke someone. The defense immediately makes you out to be a killer with all these super duper fancy gun parts. Think before you make these stupid comments like I am lying or something, I should know, I work there you don't. Sounds like a shitty department to work for. All my buddies who are cops have their department guns tricked out. Giessele and all, but I guess were not as tight assed with guns in this part of the country. Happy Vets day!!! Actually it's a good deartment and good equipment all issued to us at no cost out of our pocket, but they are strict on what we can and can't do to the weapons. Most departments on the west coast are like this. We are issued Gen 4 Glocks in either 9, 40 or 45 and Smith & Wesson M&P AR-15. We also have assigned police cars that we can take home, so not to bad of a deal. |
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What type of optics/upgrades are you guys going with? So far im thinking a Trijicon RMR RM05G mounted on a Low-Pro mount from AMS Machine and a Geissele Super Tricon trigger. Still not sure if a Battle Arms Dev. Safety Selector will fit. View Quote FWIW, the TA26 and TA44 ACOG reticles were meant for 9mm subguns. It's an 18" circle, so if you have even half of a silhouette in the circle you are still going to get a torso shot. I'd be looking long and hard at the TA-26SG. |
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Best sight for this type of weapon/application would be a Aimpoint T1 or the new T2 Clearly this statement is an opinion and not a fact. But i would like to hear your reasoning behind it. Yes it's more of an opinion, but I have used every close quarter combat optic you can think of and for close in get dirty work, the Aimpoint T1 is hard to beat. It's compact, rugged and very quick on target engagements. The Trijicon/ACOG set ups are great, but more for distance and slower to get on target than the Aimpoint. |
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Yes it's more of an opinion, but I have used every close quarter combat optic you can think of and for close in get dirty work, the Aimpoint T1 is hard to beat. It's compact, rugged and very quick on target engagements. The Trijicon/ACOG set ups are great, but more for distance and slower to get on target than the Aimpoint. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Best sight for this type of weapon/application would be a Aimpoint T1 or the new T2 Clearly this statement is an opinion and not a fact. But i would like to hear your reasoning behind it. Yes it's more of an opinion, but I have used every close quarter combat optic you can think of and for close in get dirty work, the Aimpoint T1 is hard to beat. It's compact, rugged and very quick on target engagements. The Trijicon/ACOG set ups are great, but more for distance and slower to get on target than the Aimpoint. I also have used both, however I prefer the RMR because it has no batteries (I hate relying on batteries/electronics in any life threatening situation), it's lighter, and the dual illumination model adjusts itself when transitioning between different lighting conditions (which allows me to keep both hands on my weapon). I do wish trijicon would make one with a smaller reticle though, like 4 moa. This is also just my opinion. I may pick up a T2 in the future, it never hurts to have options. |
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FWIW, the TA26 and TA44 ACOG reticles were meant for 9mm subguns. It's an 18" circle, so if you have even half of a silhouette in the circle you are still going to get a torso shot. I'd be looking long and hard at the TA-26SG. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What type of optics/upgrades are you guys going with? So far im thinking a Trijicon RMR RM05G mounted on a Low-Pro mount from AMS Machine and a Geissele Super Tricon trigger. Still not sure if a Battle Arms Dev. Safety Selector will fit. FWIW, the TA26 and TA44 ACOG reticles were meant for 9mm subguns. It's an 18" circle, so if you have even half of a silhouette in the circle you are still going to get a torso shot. I'd be looking long and hard at the TA-26SG. good to know, happen to have a TA26 sitting around with nothing better to do. |
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I also have used both, however I prefer the RMR because it has no batteries (I hate relying on batteries/electronics in any life threatening situation), it's lighter, and the dual illumination model adjusts itself when transitioning between different lighting conditions (which allows me to keep both hands on my weapon). I do wish trijicon would make one with a smaller reticle though, like 4 moa. This is also just my opinion. I may pick up a T2 in the future, it never hurts to have options. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Best sight for this type of weapon/application would be a Aimpoint T1 or the new T2 Clearly this statement is an opinion and not a fact. But i would like to hear your reasoning behind it. Yes it's more of an opinion, but I have used every close quarter combat optic you can think of and for close in get dirty work, the Aimpoint T1 is hard to beat. It's compact, rugged and very quick on target engagements. The Trijicon/ACOG set ups are great, but more for distance and slower to get on target than the Aimpoint. I also have used both, however I prefer the RMR because it has no batteries (I hate relying on batteries/electronics in any life threatening situation), it's lighter, and the dual illumination model adjusts itself when transitioning between different lighting conditions (which allows me to keep both hands on my weapon). I do wish trijicon would make one with a smaller reticle though, like 4 moa. This is also just my opinion. I may pick up a T2 in the future, it never hurts to have options. Batteries last a long time in these new Aimpoints. Also that's what the BUIS are for just in case. I really like the new T2 but not sure if it's worth the upgrade from my T1. |
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Best sight for this type of weapon/application would be a Aimpoint T1 or the new T2 Clearly this statement is an opinion and not a fact. But i would like to hear your reasoning behind it. Yes it's more of an opinion, but I have used every close quarter combat optic you can think of and for close in get dirty work, the Aimpoint T1 is hard to beat. It's compact, rugged and very quick on target engagements. The Trijicon/ACOG set ups are great, but more for distance and slower to get on target than the Aimpoint. I also have used both, however I prefer the RMR because it has no batteries (I hate relying on batteries/electronics in any life threatening situation), it's lighter, and the dual illumination model adjusts itself when transitioning between different lighting conditions (which allows me to keep both hands on my weapon). I do wish trijicon would make one with a smaller reticle though, like 4 moa. This is also just my opinion. I may pick up a T2 in the future, it never hurts to have options. Batteries last a long time in these new Aimpoints. Also that's what the BUIS are for just in case. I really like the new T2 but not sure if it's worth the upgrade from my T1. Thats good to know. Can you co-witness the BUIS through the T2? |
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Every time I see someone running a T1 it's mounted on that "tall" mount. Looks like it would be too high for an absolute co-witness. I use a Bobro QD mount with a medium spacer and it works on my duty/patrol rifle with the absolute co witness just fine. Is there one brightness setting that works for most lighting conditions, indoor and outdoor? Or do you have to constantly adjust it? |
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Every time I see someone running a T1 it's mounted on that "tall" mount. Looks like it would be too high for an absolute co-witness. I use a Bobro QD mount with a medium spacer and it works on my duty/patrol rifle with the absolute co witness just fine. Is there one brightness setting that works for most lighting conditions, indoor and outdoor? Or do you have to constantly adjust it? The T1 and T2 have NV settings and red dot settings depending on the lighting conditions. Yes you need to adjust accordingly, which is the case in most red dot optics. |
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Every time I see someone running a T1 it's mounted on that "tall" mount. Looks like it would be too high for an absolute co-witness. I use a Bobro QD mount with a medium spacer and it works on my duty/patrol rifle with the absolute co witness just fine. Is there one brightness setting that works for most lighting conditions, indoor and outdoor? Or do you have to constantly adjust it? The T1 and T2 have NV settings and red dot settings depending on the lighting conditions. Yes you need to adjust accordingly, which is the case in most red dot optics. This is the main reason I like the dual illumination RMR. If I shoot at The outdoor range during the day, I dont need to worry about adjusting my brightness in case I need to use my weapon in a home defense situation at night. Of course this is a very specific hypothetical scenario, but it's more about the peace of mind knowing that my optics will ALWAYS be ready to go. Which is another reason I dislike batteries, it's a "peace of mind" thing. To each his own I guess. |
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In a home defense situation I would just look over my sights and walk the rounds right in. Do it all the time during speed quals, but it's only at 7 yards. I Never even use the sights and always get 10 ring hits. A good light is more important in my opinion.
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In a home defense situation I would just look over my sights and walk the rounds right in. Do it all the time during speed quals, but it's only at 7 yards. I Never even use the sights and always get 10 ring hits. A good light is more important in my opinion. View Quote Bingo. I train close quarters stuff inside of ten yards off my light. I know where the rounds land in regards to where the light center is... close enough for hip-rapid- fire center mass hits. |
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Every time I see someone running a T1 it's mounted on that "tall" mount. Looks like it would be too high for an absolute co-witness. View Quote It is too high for absolute co-witness. It produces a lower 1/3 co-witness which is ideal for fixed front iron sights(like the AR) because it declutters the sight picture. Absolute co-witness is fine when you can flip down the front sight. You might have an issue if you are going to mount any lasers/lights at the 12 o'clock rail position with an absolute setup. |
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In a home defense situation I would just look over my sights and walk the rounds right in. Do it all the time during speed quals, but it's only at 7 yards. I Never even use the sights and always get 10 ring hits. A good light is more important in my opinion. Bingo. I train close quarters stuff inside of ten yards off my light. I know where the rounds land in regards to where the light center is... close enough for hip-rapid- fire center mass hits. Which brings me to my next question. Which light do you guys recommend? Are the Surefire lights worth the money or is there a better alternative? |
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It is too high for absolute co-witness. It produces a lower 1/3 co-witness which is ideal for fixed front iron sights(like the AR) because it declutters the sight picture. Absolute co-witness is fine when you can flip down the front sight. You might have an issue if you are going to mount any lasers/lights at the 12 o'clock rail position with an absolute setup. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Every time I see someone running a T1 it's mounted on that "tall" mount. Looks like it would be too high for an absolute co-witness. It is too high for absolute co-witness. It produces a lower 1/3 co-witness which is ideal for fixed front iron sights(like the AR) because it declutters the sight picture. Absolute co-witness is fine when you can flip down the front sight. You might have an issue if you are going to mount any lasers/lights at the 12 o'clock rail position with an absolute setup. You are absolutely right. However, I will only be running this optic on the MPX which does not have a fixed front sight. |
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In a home defense situation I would just look over my sights and walk the rounds right in. Do it all the time during speed quals, but it's only at 7 yards. I Never even use the sights and always get 10 ring hits. A good light is more important in my opinion. Bingo. I train close quarters stuff inside of ten yards off my light. I know where the rounds land in regards to where the light center is... close enough for hip-rapid- fire center mass hits. Which brings me to my next question. Which light do you guys recommend? Are the Surefire lights worth the money or is there a better alternative? Surefire are great lights and I own them, but currently I am running a Inforce WML attached at the 9 o'clock possition. Very easy to manipulate with your left thumb and plenty of light to get the job done. I plan on the same set up with the MPX. |
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Surefire are great lights and I own them, but currently I am running a Inforce WML attached at the 9 o'clock possition. Very easy to manipulate with your left thumb and plenty of light to get the job done. I plan on the same set up with the MPX. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In a home defense situation I would just look over my sights and walk the rounds right in. Do it all the time during speed quals, but it's only at 7 yards. I Never even use the sights and always get 10 ring hits. A good light is more important in my opinion. Bingo. I train close quarters stuff inside of ten yards off my light. I know where the rounds land in regards to where the light center is... close enough for hip-rapid- fire center mass hits. Which brings me to my next question. Which light do you guys recommend? Are the Surefire lights worth the money or is there a better alternative? Surefire are great lights and I own them, but currently I am running a Inforce WML attached at the 9 o'clock possition. Very easy to manipulate with your left thumb and plenty of light to get the job done. I plan on the same set up with the MPX. Awesome. This is great information, thank you. I did a little research and the Inforce WML will definitely be my next purchase. I look forward to seeing everyones MPX setups when they become available! |
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The more I think about it, I think I am going to use my Eotech XPS3-0 on the MPX. Has a quicker sight pick up and for CQB, that is an awesome reticle. Sometimes with the smaller dot as on the T1, it's harder to find sometimes.
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Any updates? Almost going to be into Dec and still not a dam thing.
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Checked one of these out at the NRA Convention here in Indy earlier this year. Definitely a gun on my wish list. I recall the Sig rep saying that it take AR15 fire control parts. Wonder if this would be compatible with a RDIAS.
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