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Basenji703
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Posted: 2/4/2012 7:50:35 PM
[Last Edit: 2/10/2012 6:59:15 PM by Basenji703]

THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT
OK, I am an early adopter. My 556 was and is flawless, my SBR 556 is flawless and I'm hoping that my 716 is that way also. (Don't ask me about my early Kimber Solo...I think I got one made late Friday afternoon.)

I have not shot it yet, I'll go to the indoor range next week for a 25 yard zero and the outdoor range later. I have, however, cleaned it and taken pictures.

This is what came with it (the case is just a SIG case so I didn't take a picture of it):

Upper and lower separated:

Fire control group from above:

Looking aft towards the buffer tube (please excuse the dirty towel):

Shots of the bolt and carrier from different angles compared with a Colt (I believe) AR15 bolt and the piston:




I am not an expert on anything, especially AR piston rifles, but it appears at first blush to be well put together and robust. It was interesting to me that the 716 bolt has what appears to me to be lightening cuts and the "carrier key" is part of the carrier group and not a separate piece. I am told that this is the standard for piston ARs. Since this is my first .308/7.62 AR rifle I can't compare it to any other bolt for that caliber. I am looking forward to shooting it and I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Posted: 2/4/2012 8:13:34 PM
Lucky
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Posted: 2/4/2012 8:53:16 PM
Range Report Please
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Posted: 2/4/2012 10:15:52 PM
very nice
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Posted: 2/4/2012 10:29:44 PM
What did you pay for it?
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Posted: 2/4/2012 10:30:54 PM
Congrats ! Gotta wait for tax return to pick mine up.
Don't forget the range report.
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Posted: 2/4/2012 11:49:57 PM
That may be my next set of rifles, subject to favorable range reports.

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Posted: 2/5/2012 3:15:27 PM
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OK, I wasn't going to shoot it until next week, but...
I went to the indoor range to see if I could get it on paper. I was using the mag as a monopod. I am not the world's greatest shot. This is the first shot at 25 yards.

These are the next 6 rounds.

Fifteen round rapid fire:

Forgot to add, I was shooting Aussie military surplus.

I am very happy with the results! The rifle feels solid and is more accurate than I am. As I have said, I've been very lucky with my SIG rifles. I hope they all are as good as this one.
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Posted: 2/5/2012 3:31:31 PM
Originally Posted By Basenji703:
OK, I wasn't going to shoot it until next week, but...
I went to the indoor range to see if I could get it on paper. I was using the mag as a monopod. I am not the world's greatest shot. This is the first shot at 25 yards.
http://i42.tinypic.com/bjfnf7.jpg
These are the next 6 rounds.
http://i42.tinypic.com/bjfnf7.jpg
Fifteen round rapid fire:
http://i40.tinypic.com/nfihvs.jpg
Forgot to add, I was shooting Aussie military surplus.

I am very happy with the results! The rifle feels solid and is more accurate than I am. As I have said, I've been very lucky with my SIG rifles. I hope they all are as good as this one.


You know you used the same picture for the first shot and six shot group pics right?
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Posted: 2/5/2012 3:31:56 PM
Originally Posted By Basenji703:
OK, I wasn't going to shoot it until next week, but...
I went to the indoor range to see if I could get it on paper. I was using the mag as a monopod. I am not the world's greatest shot. This is the first shot at 25 yards.
http://i42.tinypic.com/bjfnf7.jpg
These are the next 6 rounds.
http://i42.tinypic.com/bjfnf7.jpg
Fifteen round rapid fire:
http://i40.tinypic.com/nfihvs.jpg
Forgot to add, I was shooting Aussie military surplus.

I am very happy with the results! The rifle feels solid and is more accurate than I am. As I have said, I've been very lucky with my SIG rifles. I hope they all are as good as this one.


You know you used the same picture for the first shot and six shot group pics right?

ETA: What's it weigh?
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Posted: 2/5/2012 3:45:57 PM
Cr*p, I fixed it. I'm not sure how heavy it is, but it's not light. SIG calls it 9.3 without a mag. I believe it!
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Posted: 2/9/2012 10:00:14 AM
The FDE version will soon be mine....

Thanks for the report OP, my itch just got worse.
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Posted: 2/10/2012 4:07:18 PM
Nice rifle. Take your time, and break it in right. What was the cost? What mags does it use?
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Posted: 2/10/2012 4:24:57 PM
Damn, the 716 looks awesome. The street price looks pretty good at around $1600. Gonna have to get one.
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Posted: 2/10/2012 7:01:34 PM
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It uses Magpul .308's. I can't tell you what I paid, but I think the street price will be just south of $1700.

I went to the outdoor range to shoot it at longer ranges. I found out two things, my Leupold 1.5x5 scope is not as powerful as my old eyes need and I am not that great of a shot. These shots were taken at 50 yards seated with a front support. I had 5 different types of ammo, but it liked the 168 grain the best. I had Federal Sierra Matchking and PPU Match that were both 168 so I shot that for what I laughingly call accuracy. I shot 5 rounds each string.

This is the Federal at 50 yards:


PPU at 50 yards:


Federal at 100 yards (I shot two strings each, the second I shot using the hold under to try and hit the center of the target):

PPU at 100 yards (same as the Federal, 2 five round strings, the top most one on the Shoot and See was from the first and higher string):


By the way, I don't claim to be a great shot. I haven't shot at this distance in 6 or 7 years. I suspect I will get better with practice.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 12:43:22 PM
Just got my 716 last week. While cleaning it for the first time, I noticed there was no firing pin spring. The manual shows one in the illustration on page 74 and in the parts diagram. Did yours have one?
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Posted: 3/10/2012 12:43:56 PM
Just got my 716 last week. While cleaning it for the first time, I noticed there was no firing pin spring. The manual shows one in the illustration on page 74 and in the parts diagram. Did yours have one?
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Posted: 3/10/2012 10:26:43 PM
Originally Posted By axbandit468:
Just got my 716 last week. While cleaning it for the first time, I noticed there was no firing pin spring. The manual shows one in the illustration on page 74 and in the parts diagram. Did yours have one?

Just checked mine. There is no spring although it is shown in the manual. It is essentially an AR bolt and they don't have springs as far as I know. You are good to go. Here is a picture taken by Tokarev from the m4 forum. The smaller bolt is from a SIG 516.


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Posted: 3/11/2012 8:42:46 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll take it to the range next week.
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Posted: 3/12/2012 4:21:32 PM
Nice!
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Posted: 3/22/2012 8:25:35 PM
My local gun shop just got one (1) in this morning, and I was sorely tempted to buy it. Looked really nice–– as in, it looked like it was of good quality.

The price, however, was a bit steep. $1795
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Posted: 3/22/2012 9:25:59 PM
Unfortunately, the price of admission for .308 ARs is steep. For a piston .308 AR it's not bad for what you get.
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Posted: 4/22/2012 4:42:56 PM
Originally Posted By GySgt_D:
My local gun shop just got one (1) in this morning, and I was sorely tempted to buy it. Looked really nice–– as in, it looked like it was of good quality.

The price, however, was a bit steep. $1795


Not a bad price for a piston .308 with a rail and flip up sights
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Posted: 4/23/2012 3:26:20 PM
Try $2350. I went to my local favorite funshop and there was a new one for that price and a DPMS LR-308 SASS for $3400. I damn near choked on the soda I was drinking when I saw those. I was like Obama hasn't been re-elected yet.
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Posted: 5/1/2012 12:51:56 PM

Originally Posted By c350z:
Originally Posted By GySgt_D:
My local gun shop just got one (1) in this morning, and I was sorely tempted to buy it. Looked really nice–– as in, it looked like it was of good quality.

The price, however, was a bit steep. $1795


Not a bad price for a piston .308 with a rail and flip up sights
I think my .308 AR build will be about the same price.

Buds has them for $1745, but they're out of stock.

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Posted: 5/7/2012 4:09:09 PM
I thinking this will be my next purchase. I love my 551A1. Hoping the price will drop a little.
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