https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/remove-gunsmithing-itar

Seen in GD.

Hit it & spread the word!

How about itar all together!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/remove-gunsmithing-itar

This is sad... Only a few have signed and 91K to go before 5 Sept.
Looks like not enough gunsmiths know about this and or...Not enough gunsmiths exist..

What's sad is anyone thinking a whitehouse.gov "petition" has any effect at all.

It's a device to placate the masses.

No, the truly sad thing is that with a stroke of a pen, a bureaucracy can destroy so many business's.

It's called a dictatorship.

No, its not a fucking dictatorship. Anyone who stayed awake through 5th grade social studies would know that.

ATF or any other "bureaucracy" (like the IRS, VA, EPA, DOD, etc) cannot invent law. They do create administrative regulations based on law because Federal law gives them that authority. When those administrative regulations overreach the intent of Congress then Congress comes back and bitch slaps them. If the administrative regulation violates the Constitution, then the bureaucrats get bitch slapped by the Federal courts.


Do not mistake my explanation for agreement with ATF and the State Departments actions. It's not. But calling such actions "dictatorship" shows you either don't know what a real dictatorship is or you don't understand how our government works.

Bottom line......don't like a bureaucratic ruling? Call/email/write your Congressman. Signing an online petition results in Obama laughing his ass off. Your Congressman can  take action, an online petition doesn't do jack shit.

I'm aware that many laws are written this way. But many times this is exceeded and we are seeing an example of this. Obama has been so bad about this that you even have the liberal constitutional prof Jonathan Turly testifying to confess that this is a big danger to the separation of powers.

Anyhow, the whole idea of writing laws that give law making powers (creating regulations) to the executive branch flies in the face of the constitution. The motivation for the separation of powers concept was to prevent monarchies that controlled everything and could change the laws on a whim. But now I guess making laws is too much work for the legislative branch so they write easy laws that outsource the hard work to the executive branch. Then we watch as the country inches everyday towards what the founders where trying to prevent.

What are you smoking!  When's the last time YOU wrote your congressman and got satisfaction!  Get in REALITY Bub, this isn't the gov't you were told it was in 5th grade!

If it doesn't fit the Obama administration agenda it does nothing.

I just had a conversation with a local gunsmith. He's closing his shop because of this ruling. I don't know how successful his business was in the first place but he's done now.

I don't agree with the gun regulations of ITAR, but if $2200 a year makes his business unprofitable it probably wasn't very profitable to begin with.

Drone strike target list signup.

We should add this to Trump's hitlist of illegal Obama administration actions that need to go away.