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Posted: 5/1/2012 2:46:29 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT So what do I need to do? Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/1/2012 2:59:01 PM
felony!!!!!
you have to mail that rifle to an FFL in his state and he then trasnfers it. |
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Posted: 5/1/2012 3:02:23 PM
Originally Posted By vengarr:
felony!!!!! you have to mail that rifle to an FFL in his state and he then trasnfers it. Yep! |
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Posted: 5/1/2012 3:11:34 PM
From the USPS site
12.2 Rifles and Shotguns Except under 12.1.1d and 12.1.2, unloaded rifles and shotguns are mailable. Mailers must comply with the rules and regulations under 27 CFR, Part 478, as well as state and local laws. The mailer may be required by the USPS to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the rifle or shotgun is unloaded and not ineligible for mailing under 12.1.1d. The following conditions also apply: a. Subject to state, territory, or district regulations, rifles and shotguns may be mailed without restriction when sent within the same state of mailing. These items must bear a �Return Service Requested� endorsement, and must be sent by Express Mail (�signature required� must be used at delivery), Registered Mail, or must include either insured mail service (for more than $200) requiring a signature at delivery. b. A shotgun or rifle owned by a non-FFL may be mailed outside the owner's state of residence by the owner to himself or herself, in care of another person in the state, where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. These mailpieces must: 1. Be addressed to the owner. 2. Include the �in the care of� endorsement immediately preceding the name of the applicable temporary custodian. 3. Be opened by the rifle or shotgun owner only. 4. Be mailed using services described in 12.2a.. c. Rifles and shotguns may be mailed by a non-FFL owner domestically to a FFL dealer, manufacturer, or importer in any state. USPS recommends these items be mailed using those services described in 12.2a.. d. Except as described in 12.1.2a, licensed curio and relic collectors may mail firearms meeting the definition of curios or relics under 27 CFR 478.11 domestically to FFL licensed curio and relic collectors in any state. USPS recommends these items be mailed using those services described in 12.2a.. e. Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, state, or federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest may be accepted for mailing without restriction. f. Air guns that do not fall within the definition of firearm under 12.1.1a are mailable. A shipment containing an air gun with a muzzle velocity of 400 or more feet per second (fps) must include an Adult Signature service under 503.8.0. Mailers must additionally comply with all applicable state and local regulations. |
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Posted: 5/1/2012 3:22:52 PM
Yea, I knew it was okay if it was being shipped within the same state. Since I'm in Idaho I guess I do need to ship to an FFL. Bah, so many silly gun laws.
Thanks for confirming my theory. I'll get it shipped to an FFL. |
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Posted: 5/1/2012 10:03:37 PM
A police officer FFL that doesn't know the law, I'm shocked
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Posted: 5/1/2012 10:10:44 PM
[Last Edit: 5/1/2012 10:11:09 PM by DogtownTom]
Originally Posted By rcoers:
A police officer FFL that doesn't know the law, I'm shocked ![]() Any FFL that doesn't know a nonlicensee to nonlicensee INTERSTATE transfer is illegal is an idiot. Its the whole freaking point of the GCA '68! He better wise up or he won't be a police officer or FFL for very long. |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 9:54:40 AM
ATF's Top 10 Frequently Asked Firearms Questions and Answers
2. May I lawfully transfer a firearm to a friend who resides in a different State? Under Federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual who does not reside in the State where the transferee resides. Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html. The GCA provides an exception from this prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. Thus, for example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm from you to go hunting. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent. See 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(5). http://links.govdelivery.com/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkPTIwMTIwNTAxLjcyMjY3NjEmbWVzc2FnZWlkPU1EQi1QUkQtQlVMLTIwMTIwNTAxLjcyMjY3NjEmZGF0YWJhc2VpZD0xMDAxJnNlcmlhbD0xNjk3MjU5NiZlbWFpbGlkPW1pY2hhZWxqdGlnaGVAZ21haWwuY29tJnVzZXJpZD1taWNoYWVsanRpZ2hlQGdtYWlsLmNvbSZmbD0mZXh0cmE9TXVsdGl2YXJpYXRlSWQ9JiYm&&&100&&&http://www.atf.gov/firearms/industry/0501-firearms-top-10-qas.pdf |
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Posted: 5/2/2012 8:38:12 PM
Thanks guys. I got it packaged up and shipped out to an FFL in Alabama. Can't believe that cop/FFL told us I could ship it directly to him.
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