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Posted: 4/14/2012 12:26:46 PM

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I am wanting to ship my CZ P-01 pistol to the CZ Custom shop for some work.

Can someone explain what is the best way to ship this ? Do I have to take it to my FFL and have him ship it ?

I'm very confused, so please keep it simple.
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Posted: 4/14/2012 12:32:39 PM
My understanding is that you can ship it OVERNIGHT ONLY UPS. No need for a dealer to be involved.
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Posted: 4/14/2012 12:33:33 PM
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Posted: 4/14/2012 12:38:14 PM
I got my answer . . .

I originally took it to a UPS Store which is no good. It must go through a UPS Customer Center. Too bad they are only open M-F
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Posted: 4/14/2012 12:45:54 PM
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Prepare to be violated. I just sent a couple pistols off for customizing and I was dry banged for $126 by UPS. Next time I am going to stop by my friendly local gunshop and see if they are cheaper. Also, some UPS hubs want a copy of the receiving shop's FFL. Ask before you wait and get a copy from CZ if you need it. The lady who works at my local hub demands FFLs from every receiver other than Colt and Remington and a few other big names.
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Posted: 4/14/2012 1:04:25 PM

Originally Posted By scottydoesnt:
I got my answer . . .

I originally took it to a UPS Store which is no good. It must go through a UPS Customer Center. Too bad they are only open M-F

Is there a local FFL you do a lot of business with? You might see if they will ship it for you.

As an FFL they can ship it USPS a lot cheaper and easier. Even if the FFL tacks on a small fee it still maybe cheaper and less hassle.


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Posted: 4/14/2012 8:09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By scottydoesnt:
I got my answer . . .

I originally took it to a UPS Store which is no good. It must go through a UPS Customer Center. Too bad they are only open M-F

Is there a local FFL you do a lot of business with? You might see if they will ship it for you.

As an FFL they can ship it USPS a lot cheaper and easier. Even if the FFL tacks on a small fee it still maybe cheaper and less hassle.




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Posted: 4/16/2012 12:30:24 PM
Originally Posted By substandard:

Originally Posted By scottydoesnt:
I got my answer . . .

I originally took it to a UPS Store which is no good. It must go through a UPS Customer Center. Too bad they are only open M-F

Is there a local FFL you do a lot of business with? You might see if they will ship it for you.

As an FFL they can ship it USPS a lot cheaper and easier. Even if the FFL tacks on a small fee it still maybe cheaper and less hassle.




This. FFL's can and smart ones do use priorty mail. Good, free packaging materials + "red label" signature tracking for about $15.50 to anywhere in the US. It's a pretty solid value available only to FFL;s.



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Posted: 4/16/2012 6:05:43 PM
I just got home from shipping the package UPS. $48 next day air. I know I could have saved some money going through my FFL, but he works out of the home so you're on his schedule which doesn't always work with my work schedule. He was going to charge me $25, but this time I just took care of it myself. Now if UPS said it was going to be $60+ like some of you were saying I would have gone the FFL route.
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Posted: 4/17/2012 11:25:46 PM
Most of the time we (FFL's) can ship cheaper even with a fee tacked on. I shipped out a Browning Sweet 16 a few months ago and with it fully insured + postage and my $25.00 fee the guy saved a ton. I've also seen the custom shops charge return shipping too so be careful and check on that.
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Posted: 4/18/2012 6:09:26 PM
Originally Posted By supv26:
Most of the time we (FFL's) can ship cheaper even with a fee tacked on. I shipped out a Browning Sweet 16 a few months ago and with it fully insured + postage and my $25.00 fee the guy saved a ton. I've also seen the custom shops charge return shipping too so be careful and check on that.


I as quoted $40 return shipping, fedex next day air.
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Posted: 4/18/2012 10:25:40 PM
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Originally Posted By supv26:
Most of the time we (FFL's) can ship cheaper even with a fee tacked on. I shipped out a Browning Sweet 16 a few months ago and with it fully insured + postage and my $25.00 fee the guy saved a ton. I've also seen the custom shops charge return shipping too so be careful and check on that.


Are you logging these into your bound book or no? I have a customer who wants to send his handgun to S&W for some custom work. I have done a lot of outbound transfers for customers in the past, but they were all sales to others out of state. So I logged those in my book (both in and out), but in this case, the handgun will eventually return to the original customer. I know the rules with regards to gunsmithing, but since I'm just acting as an intermediary to ship the handgun ($40 shipped/insured, including my fee), I'm not exactly certain how to handle it. If he goes UPS or FedEx, he is looking at $60 to $90.

I'm just sure whether I should log it on my bound book or not.
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Posted: 4/19/2012 7:19:39 PM
Originally Posted By Scollins:
Originally Posted By supv26:
Most of the time we (FFL's) can ship cheaper even with a fee tacked on. I shipped out a Browning Sweet 16 a few months ago and with it fully insured + postage and my $25.00 fee the guy saved a ton. I've also seen the custom shops charge return shipping too so be careful and check on that.


Are you logging these into your bound book or no? I have a customer who wants to send his handgun to S&W for some custom work. I have done a lot of outbound transfers for customers in the past, but they were all sales to others out of state. So I logged those in my book (both in and out), but in this case, the handgun will eventually return to the original customer. I know the rules with regards to gunsmithing, but since I'm just acting as an intermediary to ship the handgun ($40 shipped/insured, including my fee), I'm not exactly certain how to handle it. If he goes UPS or FedEx, he is looking at $60 to $90.

I'm just sure whether I should log it on my bound book or not.


If you touch that gun....you log it.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 8:16:09 PM
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If you touch that gun....you log it.



Not quite accurate. If you take a gun in for work, and return it to the customer that same day, ATF does not require it to be logged into the bound book. Probably a good habit to have (log everything), but not a requirement in some instances.

In any case, customer found a local revolversmith, so I don't have to worry about it in this instance....
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Posted: 4/19/2012 8:52:52 PM
Originally Posted By Scollins:
Originally Posted By DogtownTom:

If you touch that gun....you log it.



Not quite accurate. If you take a gun in for work, and return it to the customer that same day, ATF does not require it to be logged into the bound book. Probably a good habit to have (log everything), but not a requirement in some instances.

In any case, customer found a local revolversmith, so I don't have to worry about it in this instance....

i'll repeat, If you touch that gun....you log it.

Since he isn't taking in the gun for "same day" gunsmithing, he needs to log it.
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Posted: 4/19/2012 11:11:35 PM

Originally Posted By Scollins:
Originally Posted By supv26:
Most of the time we (FFL's) can ship cheaper even with a fee tacked on. I shipped out a Browning Sweet 16 a few months ago and with it fully insured + postage and my $25.00 fee the guy saved a ton. I've also seen the custom shops charge return shipping too so be careful and check on that.


Are you logging these into your bound book or no? I have a customer who wants to send his handgun to S&W for some custom work. I have done a lot of outbound transfers for customers in the past, but they were all sales to others out of state. So I logged those in my book (both in and out), but in this case, the handgun will eventually return to the original customer. I know the rules with regards to gunsmithing, but since I'm just acting as an intermediary to ship the handgun ($40 shipped/insured, including my fee), I'm not exactly certain how to handle it. If he goes UPS or FedEx, he is looking at $60 to $90.

I'm just sure whether I should log it on my bound book or not.

The customer is giving it to you for gunsmithing, you in turn are subbing the work out to another FFL. The gun will come back to you, then you send it back to the customer.

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Posted: 4/20/2012 8:48:15 AM
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I would log it in my A&D book.....of course I log all guns in and out that I take possession of. Its a good way to CYOA.
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Posted: 4/21/2012 12:09:42 AM
it is a 2 part entry. You log it in from the customer and log it out to the repair shop and note it as sent for repair. When they ship it back to you, you log it in from the repair shop and out to the customer as repaired. The person who dropped it off needs to be the one who picks it up ie cant send the wife in to pick it up. 4473 not required as it is being returned to the customer from repair