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Posted: 8/19/2016 11:04:59 AM EDT
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Okay, so I finally got to hold my RDB yesterday!!! It came in to the FFL and I went in to do my NICS background check and provide the muzzle device which they will soon attach
before I go back to take it home. But holding and looking at the RDB was nice. It felt really solid as everyone else here has said, even kind of weighty. I can't tell if it felt lighter than my Tavor at home, but when I bring the RDB home I will be able to compare weights. The ergonomics felt good, the magazine release felt fine. I only held it for a few minutes before handing it back to the FFL, so I don't know anything for sure yet. I have a few questions. My RDB came with some extras, but I'm wondering if anything was missing from the box when I received it. Here is what was in the box: >1 Black Sling >1 Orange Chamber Flag >1 Owner's Manual >1 Sling Point Attachment set, Including: 2 buckle looking things, 2 skinny metal clasp/clip type things, 1 Triangular Shaped hook thing with a spring lever thing. >Some stickers >No Magazine Is anything missing according to what you folks received? |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 12:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, so I finally got to hold my RDB yesterday!!! It came in to the FFL and I went in to do my NICS background check and provide the muzzle device which they will soon attach before I go back to take it home. But holding and looking at the RDB was nice. It felt really solid as everyone else here has said, even kind of weighty. I can't tell if it felt lighter than my Tavor at home, but when I bring the RDB home I will be able to compare weights. The ergonomics felt good, the magazine release felt fine. I only held it for a few minutes before handing it back to the FFL, so I don't know anything for sure yet. I have a few questions. My RDB came with some extras, but I'm wondering if anything was missing from the box when I received it. Here is what was in the box: >1 Black Sling >1 Orange Chamber Flag >1 Owner's Manual >1 Sling Point Attachment set, Including: 2 buckle looking things, 2 skinny metal clasp/clip type things, 1 Triangular Shaped hook thing with a spring lever thing. >Some stickers >No Magazine Is anything missing according to what you folks received? I received a 20rd PMAG with mine. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 12:51:15 PM EDT
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Okay, so I finally got to hold my RDB yesterday!!! It came in to the FFL and I went in to do my NICS background check and provide the muzzle device which they will soon attach before I go back to take it home. But holding and looking at the RDB was nice. It felt really solid as everyone else here has said, even kind of weighty. I can't tell if it felt lighter than my Tavor at home, but when I bring the RDB home I will be able to compare weights. The ergonomics felt good, the magazine release felt fine. I only held it for a few minutes before handing it back to the FFL, so I don't know anything for sure yet. I have a few questions. My RDB came with some extras, but I'm wondering if anything was missing from the box when I received it. Here is what was in the box: >1 Black Sling >1 Orange Chamber Flag >1 Owner's Manual >1 Sling Point Attachment set, Including: 2 buckle looking things, 2 skinny metal clasp/clip type things, 1 Triangular Shaped hook thing with a spring lever thing. >Some stickers >No Magazine Is anything missing according to what you folks received? I believe I received a 20 or 30 rounder with mine I can't remember. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 1:32:24 PM EDT
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A magazine? Hmm.
Were there any additional sling mounting components included besides the 5 metal pieces I mentioned? The small ziplock baggie they came in was slightly torn when I opened the box; I'm worried that perhaps a few small parts may have gone astray. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 1:59:17 PM EDT
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A magazine? Hmm. Were there any additional sling mounting components included besides the 5 metal pieces I mentioned? The small ziplock baggie they came in was slightly torn when I opened the box; I'm worried that perhaps a few small parts may have gone astray. If you're in MD I'd suspect the magazine is missing due to its capacity. Obviously you know your laws better than me, but isn't MD limited to 10? |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 2:39:16 PM EDT
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Yeah, we're limited to 10 round mags. I'm not worried about the magazine; I have plenty.
I'm just worried about any other parts or components, especially the sling accessories. What else might have come with your sling accessory package? |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 4:04:25 PM EDT
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Yeah, we're limited to 10 round mags. I'm not worried about the magazine; I have plenty. I'm just worried about any other parts or components, especially the sling accessories. What else might have come with your sling accessory package? I didn't get anything other than the things you listed. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 4:35:29 PM EDT
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Edited: Please see the warning above. -- HS I just now saw this. No disrespect to the mod, but why was this particular post edited? There was nothing in that post that should have been implied as offensive or sarcastic. I politely addressed Aeneas2020's invitation regarding shooting the RDB as well as recounting my own experiences with my own AR15, all in a very civil manner. We all know tone of voice or "sarcasm" doesn't translate well via electronic messaging; nothing I said in this thread was intended to reflect argumentativeness, only objective debate on a relevant topic which I am interested in. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 4:49:14 PM EDT
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I just now saw this. No disrespect to the mod, but why was this particular post edited? There was nothing in that post that should have been implied as offensive or sarcastic. I politely addressed Aeneas2020's invitation regarding shooting the RDB as well as recounting my own experiences with my own AR15, all in a very civil manner. We all know tone of voice or "sarcasm" doesn't translate well via electronic messaging; nothing I said in this thread was intended to reflect argumentativeness, only objective debate on a relevant topic which I am interested in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Edited: Please see the warning above. -- HS I just now saw this. No disrespect to the mod, but why was this particular post edited? There was nothing in that post that should have been implied as offensive or sarcastic. I politely addressed Aeneas2020's invitation regarding shooting the RDB as well as recounting my own experiences with my own AR15, all in a very civil manner. We all know tone of voice or "sarcasm" doesn't translate well via electronic messaging; nothing I said in this thread was intended to reflect argumentativeness, only objective debate on a relevant topic which I am interested in. Frosty let's just move on man. Offer is still open any time you have some free time. Enjoy your RDB and post some pics. I'll be interested to see it in MD config. Also as for missing parts it doesn't sound like you are missing anything but if it turns out you are let me know i'll dig through my stuff and send you what you are missing. I wouldn't expect kel tec to be in a position to send out parts any time soon as when I called them i was told that all parts were being allocated to production and that spares or replacement parts would not be available for the time being (although that was a couple of months ago and i'm sure if you had a major breakage that would change). |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 4:49:32 PM EDT
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I just now saw this. No disrespect to the mod, but why was this particular post edited? There was nothing in that post that should have been implied as offensive or sarcastic. I politely addressed Aeneas2020's invitation regarding shooting the RDB as well as recounting my own experiences with my own AR15, all in a very civil manner. We all know tone of voice or "sarcasm" doesn't translate well via electronic messaging; nothing I said in this thread was intended to reflect argumentativeness, only objective debate on a relevant topic which I am interested in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Edited: Please see the warning above. -- HS I just now saw this. No disrespect to the mod, but why was this particular post edited? There was nothing in that post that should have been implied as offensive or sarcastic. I politely addressed Aeneas2020's invitation regarding shooting the RDB as well as recounting my own experiences with my own AR15, all in a very civil manner. We all know tone of voice or "sarcasm" doesn't translate well via electronic messaging; nothing I said in this thread was intended to reflect argumentativeness, only objective debate on a relevant topic which I am interested in. It was a direct continuation of the off-topic, non-technical back-and-forth exchange that I had already specifically told you both/all to knock off in this thread and forum. The other poster had the respect and good sense to delete his own post in that regard, but you seemed intent on having the "last word" in spite of my prior warning. I simply edited the post, and did not issue a warning, lock your account, etc. If you wish to discuss this further, please IM me or, better still, contact Senior Staff directly if you think my actions should be reviewed. I welcome such. Regardless, please understand that this is the end of this particular discussion in this thread and forum if you wish to continue to post here. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 4:50:49 PM EDT
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I didn't get anything other than the things you listed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, we're limited to 10 round mags. I'm not worried about the magazine; I have plenty. I'm just worried about any other parts or components, especially the sling accessories. What else might have come with your sling accessory package? I didn't get anything other than the things you listed. Is there supposed to be a prescribed manner to assemble the sling using the metal sling attachment points? There is nothing in my manual describing this. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 5:06:21 PM EDT
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Can you post up a pic of exactly what you got and what you are trying to assemble? Mine came with all the attachment points already on etc.
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Posted: 8/19/2016 5:09:29 PM EDT
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Frosty let's just move on man. Offer is still open any time you have some free time. Enjoy your RDB and post some pics. I'll be interested to see it in MD config. Also as for missing parts it doesn't sound like you are missing anything but if it turns out you are let me know i'll dig through my stuff and send you what you are missing. I wouldn't expect kel tec to be in a position to send out parts any time soon as when I called them i was told that all parts were being allocated to production and that spares or replacement parts would not be available for the time being (although that was a couple of months ago and i'm sure if you had a major breakage that would change). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Edited: Please see the warning above. -- HS I just now saw this. No disrespect to the mod, but why was this particular post edited? There was nothing in that post that should have been implied as offensive or sarcastic. I politely addressed Aeneas2020's invitation regarding shooting the RDB as well as recounting my own experiences with my own AR15, all in a very civil manner. We all know tone of voice or "sarcasm" doesn't translate well via electronic messaging; nothing I said in this thread was intended to reflect argumentativeness, only objective debate on a relevant topic which I am interested in. Frosty let's just move on man. Offer is still open any time you have some free time. Enjoy your RDB and post some pics. I'll be interested to see it in MD config. Also as for missing parts it doesn't sound like you are missing anything but if it turns out you are let me know i'll dig through my stuff and send you what you are missing. I wouldn't expect kel tec to be in a position to send out parts any time soon as when I called them i was told that all parts were being allocated to production and that spares or replacement parts would not be available for the time being (although that was a couple of months ago and i'm sure if you had a major breakage that would change). Sounds good. I live a thousand miles from Florida, so visiting the area is out until Winter Break from college I suppose. I'll try to get some photos once I have my rifle back from the armorer. Hopefully Keltec releases spare parts for the RDB, as well as spare barrels of varying lengths. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 5:13:24 PM EDT
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Can you post up a pic of exactly what you got and what you are trying to assemble? Mine came with all the attachment points already on etc. This Is what I've got. I hope it's correct. Hmm I can't figure out how to attach photos. I'm using an iphone. I'll have to figure that out. |
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Posted: 8/19/2016 5:14:04 PM EDT
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i'll IM you phone number just text them to me
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Posted: 8/22/2016 3:40:59 PM EDT
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I just picked my RDB up this past Thursday evening, then Friday I flew out to Japan for business. If you still don't have this resolved by the time I get back I'd be more than happy to take a look for you when I get back home on Friday.
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Posted: 8/28/2016 2:19:15 PM EDT
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I just ordered a set of Magpul Pro BUIS for the RDB. Should arrive in a week or so.
Does anyone have any pictures of how the OEM sling is supposed to be setup? I don't know if I will end up keeping the OEM sling setup, or buying an aftermarket one. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 4:12:47 PM EDT
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Hey, congrats on getting your RDB. I picked mine up a week ago and the next day got sent out of town for work for a week so I just got a chance to shoot it last night for a few minutes.
I reread your post and got the same sling components you listed. I haven't mucked with the sling yet but think I have an idea of how it should work. I'll post up pics when I get it figured out. However I'm thinking a single point may be better on this rifle. I have a few different slings - the generic bungee single point, an AIM Sports 1-2 sling and a SOC Sling. I'm planning to try them all on the rifle and see which I like best. The SOC is my favorite all around because it's an easy on-the-fly conversion between 1 and 2 point and has easy adjustments. But the RDB is so compact and with the mid-point sling attachment a single point only might actually be best. I guess we shall see. Btw, Im assuming from your name you're up in Frostburg. Any good ranges up there? I live in NoVa and we have a few good indoor ranges here but I am a member up at Cresap in Frederick, MD (my hometown) so I mostly go up there. If you're ever in the area hit me up and we can go punch some paper. |
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Posted: 9/13/2016 7:22:26 PM EDT
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If the RDB proves reliable and durable (time will tell), it will be a better rifle than the Tavor. Because first generation Kel-Tecs have such a great reputation for being durable and reliable.  RFBs and KSGs have been no worse than other guns KSGs most certainly have been worse than most other shotguns. 
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Posted: 9/13/2016 7:24:45 PM EDT
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Just saw Hard Shells statement.
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Posted: 9/13/2016 8:11:30 PM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFjVBzC2er0 They seem plenty busy to me. They seem to make stuff people want as fast as they can make it. Personally I want a RDB in FDE  That was a neat video. They seem to employ a good number of people. I almost never see Keltec products at the LGS. I do like their products though. Have been checking inventory at Davidsons. Most of the Keltec products seem out of stock. GB has some though. I might pick up an RDB soon, looks nice. |
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Posted: 9/14/2016 1:13:17 AM EDT
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So does anyone know how the sling is supposed to be set up?
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Posted: 9/14/2016 12:35:35 PM EDT
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So does anyone know how the sling is supposed to be set up? I have it setup, but I don't think it's the absolutely correct way. I ended up with an extra buckle thingy. Perhaps fittingly, I got a Stupid Simple Sling for cheap, and I'm going to use that instead. |
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Posted: 9/14/2016 3:37:28 PM EDT
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Set mine up too but dont think its what they had in mind, lol.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 12:44:39 AM EDT
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I also am wondering about the sling. Does anyone have proper photographs of the "correct" way to set up the sling? I wish Keltec offered some instructions for the
sling in the manual. |
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Posted: 10/1/2016 9:16:09 PM EDT
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If the RDB proves reliable and durable (time will tell), it will be a better rifle than the Tavor. Because first generation Kel-Tecs have such a great reputation for being durable and reliable. RFBs and KSGs have been no worse than other guns KSGs most certainly have been worse than most other shotguns. No they havent........The biggest problem with the KSG has been operator error. |
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Posted: 10/3/2016 11:22:33 PM EDT
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Anyone notice that the RDB bolt lugs are similar to the KAC E3 bolts? They have no sharp corners like a standard AR bolt. The lugs are rounded and the bolt in general looks beefy.
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Posted: 10/4/2016 5:23:10 PM EDT
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Anyone notice that the RDB bolt lugs are similar to the KAC E3 bolts? They have no sharp corners like a standard AR bolt. The lugs are rounded and the bolt in general looks beefy. Well Kel-Tec is only about 15 miles from the KAC plant. 
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Posted: 10/4/2016 5:23:49 PM EDT
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yeah, they always planned on making it in 6.5 grendel and possibly 7.62x39 so a bigger bolt makes sense. got over 1000 rounds of steel and brass cased ammo through mine. No malfunctions so far.
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Posted: 10/17/2016 10:26:49 PM EDT
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any more updates? I'm itchin to get a bullpup or sbr/pistol in case there is a hildebeast sale (major price increase).
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Posted: 10/19/2016 1:40:01 AM EDT
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8 RDB's on gunbroker as of 10-19. about a month ago there were 25 or so. I'm wondering if Keltec is holding back to fix a problem before releasing more.
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:40:38 AM EDT
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8 RDB's on gunbroker as of 10-19. about a month ago there were 25 or so. I'm wondering if Keltec is holding back to fix a problem before releasing more. Could be speculative holding by sellers - if Hillary wins you can instantly tack on $400 and if she loses you can still list it at the same $1200 they seem to go for. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 2:46:51 PM EDT
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Also unless something has changed Kel-Tec generally makes guns in batches so it could easily be they aren't making any right now.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 1:51:50 AM EDT
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Coming to far reaching conclusions based on erroneous logic, is like a past time here.
If you have low inventory, usually that's a sign of high demand. Maybe they are all bought out due to the election? If you really want to know, look at the volume sold, and the prices they sold at. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:36:18 PM EDT
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They are the 6th biggest gun company in the US and increased production by like 50% in the last couple years. So yeah, demand outstrips production.
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Posted: 11/2/2016 1:46:53 PM EDT
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I am looking for an RDB if anyone knows where a reasonably priced one is.
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Posted: 11/2/2016 6:35:00 PM EDT
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Just a tip to some in this thread. I put down $50 toward 1$100 on one (OD GREEN) here in orlando FL (an hour ish away from keltec) back toward the start of the year. After getting inpatient and the election looking bad (wikileaks showing executive order to strip rights from hillary) I was fed up and decided that the OD green probably wasn't going to happen so I called my LGS. He told me they have yet to get one/track one in any color. So I went to KTOG (kel tec forum) and saw a thread where some guy said he saw one at his LGS for $967 so I said what the hell and gave his LGS a call and they said they would sell it to me no prob over the phone and ship it to my FFL here in Orlando. And that is the story of how I got my RDB. Don't give up and keep your eyes peeled on the forums if you see someone post up that they saw one in their LGS hop on google get their phone number and give it a go. I still have my deposit in hopes that one day I can get an OD green one and flip the black one but one thing Ill say is this rifle is crazy short!
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Posted: 11/2/2016 6:43:48 PM EDT
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Just a tip to some in this thread. I put down $50 toward 1$100 on one (OD GREEN) here in orlando FL (an hour ish away from keltec) back toward the start of the year. After getting inpatient and the election looking bad (wikileaks showing executive order to strip rights from hillary) I was fed up and decided that the OD green probably wasn't going to happen so I called my LGS. He told me they have yet to get one/track one in any color. So I went to KTOG (kel tec forum) and saw a thread where some guy said he saw one at his LGS for $967 so I said what the hell and gave his LGS a call and they said they would sell it to me no prob over the phone and ship it to my FFL here in Orlando. And that is the story of how I got my RDB. Don't give up and keep your eyes peeled on the forums if you see someone post up that they saw one in their LGS hop on google get their phone number and give it a go. I still have my deposit in hopes that one day I can get an OD green one and flip the black one but one thing Ill say is this rifle is crazy short! I called a ton of shops around me and a Kel Tec authorized dealer literally got one in this morning so I bought it. $1399 with an X-Products Drum magazine.... I thought that was a pretty good deal. What y'all think? |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 9:13:09 PM EDT
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I called a ton of shops around me and a Kel Tec authorized dealer literally got one in this morning so I bought it. $1399 with an X-Products Drum magazine.... I thought that was a pretty good deal. What y'all think? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just a tip to some in this thread. I put down $50 toward 1$100 on one (OD GREEN) here in orlando FL (an hour ish away from keltec) back toward the start of the year. After getting inpatient and the election looking bad (wikileaks showing executive order to strip rights from hillary) I was fed up and decided that the OD green probably wasn't going to happen so I called my LGS. He told me they have yet to get one/track one in any color. So I went to KTOG (kel tec forum) and saw a thread where some guy said he saw one at his LGS for $967 so I said what the hell and gave his LGS a call and they said they would sell it to me no prob over the phone and ship it to my FFL here in Orlando. And that is the story of how I got my RDB. Don't give up and keep your eyes peeled on the forums if you see someone post up that they saw one in their LGS hop on google get their phone number and give it a go. I still have my deposit in hopes that one day I can get an OD green one and flip the black one but one thing Ill say is this rifle is crazy short! I called a ton of shops around me and a Kel Tec authorized dealer literally got one in this morning so I bought it. $1399 with an X-Products Drum magazine.... I thought that was a pretty good deal. What y'all think? How do you like it?? |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 9:41:14 PM EDT
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Picked it up from the dealer today after work. First thing I checked was to make sure the bolt assembly was welded and it was. Nicely welded and smoothed out, then coated. So I don't think I'll have an issue with that. Also the dolt ejector pin was g2g. So with those checked out I think it's going to be a great reliable gun. Trigger felt good, action is nice and smooth, feels well built, and it won't be comfortable shooting the x-products drum mag out of it that's for sure. Lol. It shoulders well and is well balanced. I put my Mepro M21 on it just to try it out. Think I'm going to leave that on there and put a Vortex Strike Eagle on my CZ 805 Bren SBR. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 2:16:00 AM EDT
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Picked it up from the dealer today after work. First thing I checked was to make sure the bolt assembly was welded and it was. Nicely welded and smoothed out, then coated. So I don't think I'll have an issue with that. Also the dolt ejector pin was g2g. So with those checked out I think it's going to be a great reliable gun. Trigger felt good, action is nice and smooth, feels well built, and it won't be comfortable shooting the x-products drum mag out of it that's for sure. Lol. It shoulders well and is well balanced. I put my Mepro M21 on it just to try it out. Think I'm going to leave that on there and put a Vortex Strike Eagle on my CZ 805 Bren SBR. Wait a minute. I've heard of the welded bolt assembly thing. Can you post a photo of the weld, or the area where it is supposed to be welded, and point it out? I have an RDB and I want to know what to check for, and where to check. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 10:12:59 AM EDT
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Wait a minute. I've heard of the welded bolt assembly thing. Can you post a photo of the weld, or the area where it is supposed to be welded, and point it out? I have an RDB and I want to know what to check for, and where to check. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Picked it up from the dealer today after work. First thing I checked was to make sure the bolt assembly was welded and it was. Nicely welded and smoothed out, then coated. So I don't think I'll have an issue with that. Also the dolt ejector pin was g2g. So with those checked out I think it's going to be a great reliable gun. Trigger felt good, action is nice and smooth, feels well built, and it won't be comfortable shooting the x-products drum mag out of it that's for sure. Lol. It shoulders well and is well balanced. I put my Mepro M21 on it just to try it out. Think I'm going to leave that on there and put a Vortex Strike Eagle on my CZ 805 Bren SBR. Wait a minute. I've heard of the welded bolt assembly thing. Can you post a photo of the weld, or the area where it is supposed to be welded, and point it out? I have an RDB and I want to know what to check for, and where to check. I'll post one when I get home from work |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 3:15:23 PM EDT
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